Paddy McCartin risking his life for base salary at the Swans. Stupid at best. Give it away son.
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He didn't even compete in the draft combine, nor did he play the last few games of his draft year.
We picked him for some other reason.... maybe he came from a good family or something like that.
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Neither did King.
It's his choice. He has obviously been given the all clear by someone, let's just wish him luck he doesn't need all our medical advice.
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Maybe we were after the brother combination just like we are after the King brother combination now.
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2014 draft was a success.
Came out of it with Membrey and Sinclair. DMac showing something under Ratten too.
Any year you can get 2 starting 18 players is a success.
Here’s how Melbourne built their premiership team:
09- GAWN
10- MCDONALD
11-
12- VINEY
13- SALEM, harmes
14- PETRACCA, BRAYSHAW, anb
15- OLIVER
16- hibberd
17- LEVER, FRITSCH, spargo, petty
18- MAY, sparrow, jordan
19- JACKSON, PICKETT, Langdon, rivers
20- Brown, bowey
Upper case denotes what I would say are pillars of the team.
Lower case I class as role players, right place, right time.
So never more than 2.
Just saying we have been building well the last 9 years.
13- Billings
14- Membrey, Sinclair, (dmac?)
15- Gresham
16- Steele, Marshall, (battle, long?)
17- Clark, Coffield, Paton
18- King, Wilkie, (bytel)
19- Howard, Hill, Jones, Butler
Ryder*not a long term player
20- Higgins, Crouch, (highmore, Sharman)
21- ?
Rationale was that after Tom Boyd costing a fortune that Key Forwards would cost a bomb to trade for and midfielders were dime a dozen.
We lost the Forward and are just getting up to speed with the mids. Wrong choice, we move on, we have King and to use their 2014 rationale, if we try to trade for the other King he will cost us at least 2 firsts, so they weren't completely wrong.
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13- BILLINGS
14- MEMBREY, SINCLAIR, dmac
15- GRESH
16- STEELE, MARSHALL, battle, long
17- Clark, Coffield, Paton..
I think all these guys can be, Pato looked locked in but now needs to come back from injury.
The other 2 had good years in 2020 and we made finals, they had down years last year and we didn’t.
Jury is still out, but I’m hopeful they put their names in capitals this year.
Real barometer of our future these 3.
18- KING, WILKIE
19- HOWARD, JONES, Hill, Butler, Ryder
20- HIGGINS, Crouch
Jury is still out on bytel, Byrnes, Sharman and highmore, as well as the 21 crop.
Also gresh and Jones are some very unstable pillars due to injuries.
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Completely his choice and he no doubt has plenty of experts advising him.
Very easy for us on the outside to tell him to give it away.
Given the only way to diagnose CTE is post-mortem I don't think there's a single expert that could confidently say a return to contact sport is in his best interest.
If muppets don’t stop discussing Paddy McCartin, I’ll demand Spotify remove my ASMR records.
I agree with that, except we purposely shipped off our old champions to "fast track " our rebuild.
We needed to do better to make up for the previous drafts but we were bog ordinary.
Players that were traded out had no long term affect on our rebuild or on our current team.
2006: Geary
2007: --- ( McEvoy still playing , traded for Savage and Dunstan ).
2008: --- ( Lynch traded for the Newnes pick , Stanley traded for the H Goddard pick )
2009: ---
2010: --- ( Cripps traded, effectively for the Saunders pick or for Trent Dennis Lane ).
2011: Ross, Webster
2012:
Yep another reason. Probably that he was the best young key forward available and rated in the top 2 talent wise.
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In that case surely Sharman should be in capital letters, bold font, colour and with appropriate title! SHARMAN GOAT
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Won’t argue we recruited horribly between 05-12
Left us in a hole for a decade.
Which we are recovering from now.
Let’s go back further.
98, HAYES, BAKER
99, BLAKE, MILNE
00, ROO, KOS
01, BALL, DAL, JOEY
02, GODDARD
03, FISHER, GRAM
Went downhill from there,
But that’s how we were able to be a good team in 04-05 on the tail end of Harves and the other senior players careers.
And what we built around for the Ross Lyon team for 09-10.
(07 was some handy pickups in Schneider, Dempster, Stuv.)
So 2 a year is a good strike rate.
And unfortunately you can’t expect them to double it because they had a bad run.
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Don't do that, I have one off the wrist over those records. Or is that the tantric Spotify list?
Yeah downhill but still ticking over.
2004: Gwilt
2005: Gilbert,
2006: Armitage
2007: Geary and even our picks in 2008 and 2010 are still playinig.
It was the years of NOTHING that put the nail in the coffin.
And trading ( or getting compensation for ) all of McEvoy, Cripps, Lynch, DalSanto, Goddard , Stanley and having nothing to show for them is just abysmal.
I thought they were going to award it to him after the pre-season to get it over with.
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The Swans would not have picked him up for what he was asking at the Saints.
The McCartin selection could be just the thing that helps us put him behind us. The only thing that could make his second chance a sore spot for me is if he has a long and distinguished career as a gun goal kicker. But if he only just manages to eke out a career as an average footballer then I will know that we didn't lose a lot.
And if he clogs up their list for the next four years without playing games then that would help me reconcile the Hannebery contract as well.
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**** spotify
Buy the cd
And its SHARMAN...obviously
Buy the cd
And its SHARMAN...obviously
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I was at a wedding on the weekend and was speaking with a person who is a psychologist but currently working with a university who are studying CTE, concussion and head trauma. I was trying to get some free advice due to my own concussion history and she was saying that it looks like CTE is worse in people who have multiple trauma in quick succession. If you are recently concussed...she suggested 6 months and sustain another knock it looks as though some serious damage may be more likely. They had studied a couple of AFL players and one that had retired due to issues with his concussions as well as all kinds of crash victims and people experiencing neurological issues. She didn't name the players, but she wasn't complimentary with the AFL funding research and I got the vibe that she thinks that they expect to control the narrative and direct research into showing what they want to to show.
