Training 2022 Pre Season
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gringo2011
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It's a good lot of okay talent. The real issue with those years is that we had FA top end players. I think we had no AA quality players drafted to the club over about 10 years or something. Melbourne have used high picks to stack them with elite players. King looks the closest to being a gun and since Lethlean arrived our identifying of top end talent looks better. If guys like Gresham can rise to meet their potential it will make a massive change to how I view that period though.
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That sounds about right with regards to the AFL. They are the masters of narrative control and deflection.
It blows me away Paddy McCartin is playing - he himself was saying how bad his condition was and how long it took to recover.
gringo2011
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I know a guy that was at work and a truck driver hadn't locked his back door, it swung and hit him in the head. He was off work for about 6 months and couldn't stand daylight and had vertigo symptoms and headaches. Pretty much the same time as Koby Stevens with similar symptoms. He thought he'd never recover but a few years later he has no symptoms at all. Those really severe concussions seem to effect mental health too, possibly through lifestyle disruption but uncertainty about your future and other issues that come up would be pretty hard to manage.
He's probably better off down back where he won't get the ear-massages and pack-crashing as much.
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Article from The Age regarding potential replacements if a club as a Covid outbreak. It suggests one option they are considering is getting the top-up players from the clubs state league team, which would be terrible for us considering of how poor the Sandy listed players are.
Using clubs’ own state league – or affiliate club – players as top-ups for COVID represents the easiest option for the clubs and competition, given all the difficulties involved. The prevailing view is that it is probably not feasible for all 18 clubs, or most of them, to be drafting in several players per club at the same time.
www.theage.com.au
Using clubs’ own state league – or affiliate club – players as top-ups for COVID represents the easiest option for the clubs and competition, given all the difficulties involved. The prevailing view is that it is probably not feasible for all 18 clubs, or most of them, to be drafting in several players per club at the same time.
AFL planning for ‘the replacements’ from VFL and other state leagues
Top-up players from other competitions may be used to ensure clubs can field a team amid a COVID outbreak.
CaptainRisky
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Thats great that he is ok now but its not like he is going to get smacked in the head by a truck door every week , Paddy playing back or forward is just asking for trouble IMO
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From the AFL site...
The Dan plan: Find out why there's still hype and hope for Hanners
Brett Ratten sheds light on Dan Hannebery's pre-season, and explains why the veteran is so valuable to the Saints
ST KILDA coach Brett Ratten believes injury-plagued star Dan Hannebery can put a nightmare start to his time at Moorabbin behind him and play plenty of football in 2022.
The three-time Therabody AFL All-Australian has been riddled with soft-tissue injuries since arriving at RSEA Park at the end of 2018, managing only 15 of a possible 63 appearances due to hamstring, calf and groin problems.
Hannebery played only two senior games in 2021 – the final two games of the home and away season – after finally overcoming the persistent calf issues that started in January, shortly after he won St Kilda's 3km time trial.
But the former Swan hasn’t missed a session across the off-season and pre-season, following a meticulously tailored running and gym program that should see him feature in match simulation in the coming weeks and St Kilda's intra-club later this month.
Under the guidance of new high performance manager Nick Walsh, Hannebery has followed a slower build this pre-season, with the club carefully managing his workload across December and January in attempt to get him to the starting line for the first time since moving to the club after 208 games at Sydney.
Those inside RSEA Park know how unlucky Hannebery has been with his body. They've seen the amount of work he has put in to get back on the park, only to be left despondent. They refuse to think too far ahead but are hoping he is rewarded for his persistence.
"He's had a pre-season that I think by the numbers is the most he's done in the three or four years here, which is great," Ratten told AFL.com.au.
"We still have a go-slow approach with him; we don’t need him firing like a 20-year-old right now; we need him to build and he's doing that.
"Last year he won the time trial when we got back and then within a week, he was sore. We started slowly (this pre-season). We're not getting him to jump into those sort of events. That’s the thing with Dan, he's so competitive, he wants to win it and show everyone. We don’t need him to be doing that right at the moment.
"As you get older people look at your performance in terms of handballs and kicks. He is one of those players that might not need as many handballs and kicks, but his voice and direction is critical to our team. That's so valuable for us and maybe we lack a little bit of that at times. He is a standout in that area.
"I think he'll have a contribution this year. Who knows with the soft tissue? We're working to a plan, but when he's out there we're a better team. We'd love to get him out there as much as possible."
That’s the thing with Dan, he's so competitive, he wants to win it and show everyone. We don’t need him to be doing that right at the moment
- Brett Ratten
While things haven’t gone to plan at St Kilda, the 30-year-old is regarded as one of the most diligent preparers at the club and has left no stone unturned in his pursuit of returning to full fitness. He has tried almost everything to improve his luck, turning to Pilates, yoga, acupuncture and dynamic neuromuscular stabilisation training, as well as tweaking his diet and sleep patterns in search of anything that will aid his return.
Hannebery has worked closely with physio Richard Citreon, rehab coordinator Marcus Krygger and strength and conditioning coach Steve Forcone at the club, as well as seeing renowned sports movement coach Mark McGrath – who helped Hawthorn star Tom Mitchell return from a horrific broken leg – on a regular basis.
Four years of persistent injuries can make you forget how good Hannebery was at Sydney. He played a key role in Sydney's 2012 premiership, earned three All-Australian blazers in the Harbour City, polled at least 20 votes in the Brownlow Medal on the three separate occasions – 107 in total – and won the 2015 AFL Coaches Association Champion Player of the Year Award, ahead of that year's Brownlow Medal winner Nat Fyfe.
St Kilda doesn’t expect to see that version of Hannebery. But if they can get 15 to 18 games out of him in 2022 – and performances like the 2020 finals series against the Western Bulldogs and Richmond – it could provide them with the extra boost they need this season.
Hannebery is out of contract at the end of this season and will need to play a chunk of football across the winter if he is going to get another deal at the Saints. But right now, club and player are only focused on building towards his next appearance in the red, white and black.
The Dan plan: Find out why there's still hype and hope for Hanners
Brett Ratten sheds light on Dan Hannebery's pre-season, and explains why the veteran is so valuable to the Saints
ST KILDA coach Brett Ratten believes injury-plagued star Dan Hannebery can put a nightmare start to his time at Moorabbin behind him and play plenty of football in 2022.
The three-time Therabody AFL All-Australian has been riddled with soft-tissue injuries since arriving at RSEA Park at the end of 2018, managing only 15 of a possible 63 appearances due to hamstring, calf and groin problems.
Hannebery played only two senior games in 2021 – the final two games of the home and away season – after finally overcoming the persistent calf issues that started in January, shortly after he won St Kilda's 3km time trial.
But the former Swan hasn’t missed a session across the off-season and pre-season, following a meticulously tailored running and gym program that should see him feature in match simulation in the coming weeks and St Kilda's intra-club later this month.
Under the guidance of new high performance manager Nick Walsh, Hannebery has followed a slower build this pre-season, with the club carefully managing his workload across December and January in attempt to get him to the starting line for the first time since moving to the club after 208 games at Sydney.
Those inside RSEA Park know how unlucky Hannebery has been with his body. They've seen the amount of work he has put in to get back on the park, only to be left despondent. They refuse to think too far ahead but are hoping he is rewarded for his persistence.
"He's had a pre-season that I think by the numbers is the most he's done in the three or four years here, which is great," Ratten told AFL.com.au.
"We still have a go-slow approach with him; we don’t need him firing like a 20-year-old right now; we need him to build and he's doing that.
"Last year he won the time trial when we got back and then within a week, he was sore. We started slowly (this pre-season). We're not getting him to jump into those sort of events. That’s the thing with Dan, he's so competitive, he wants to win it and show everyone. We don’t need him to be doing that right at the moment.
"As you get older people look at your performance in terms of handballs and kicks. He is one of those players that might not need as many handballs and kicks, but his voice and direction is critical to our team. That's so valuable for us and maybe we lack a little bit of that at times. He is a standout in that area.
"I think he'll have a contribution this year. Who knows with the soft tissue? We're working to a plan, but when he's out there we're a better team. We'd love to get him out there as much as possible."
That’s the thing with Dan, he's so competitive, he wants to win it and show everyone. We don’t need him to be doing that right at the moment
- Brett Ratten
While things haven’t gone to plan at St Kilda, the 30-year-old is regarded as one of the most diligent preparers at the club and has left no stone unturned in his pursuit of returning to full fitness. He has tried almost everything to improve his luck, turning to Pilates, yoga, acupuncture and dynamic neuromuscular stabilisation training, as well as tweaking his diet and sleep patterns in search of anything that will aid his return.
Hannebery has worked closely with physio Richard Citreon, rehab coordinator Marcus Krygger and strength and conditioning coach Steve Forcone at the club, as well as seeing renowned sports movement coach Mark McGrath – who helped Hawthorn star Tom Mitchell return from a horrific broken leg – on a regular basis.
Four years of persistent injuries can make you forget how good Hannebery was at Sydney. He played a key role in Sydney's 2012 premiership, earned three All-Australian blazers in the Harbour City, polled at least 20 votes in the Brownlow Medal on the three separate occasions – 107 in total – and won the 2015 AFL Coaches Association Champion Player of the Year Award, ahead of that year's Brownlow Medal winner Nat Fyfe.
St Kilda doesn’t expect to see that version of Hannebery. But if they can get 15 to 18 games out of him in 2022 – and performances like the 2020 finals series against the Western Bulldogs and Richmond – it could provide them with the extra boost they need this season.
Hannebery is out of contract at the end of this season and will need to play a chunk of football across the winter if he is going to get another deal at the Saints. But right now, club and player are only focused on building towards his next appearance in the red, white and black.
Sun Ra
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Are we allowed to discuss the effect of C*V*D on the AFL in coming season? It may just be that the team that manages this issue the best, could have some advantage come crunch time. Including getting there. You don't want 3 or 4 players out every second week - ie. OUT: Steele, Ryder, Gresham, Clark (CVD) !
www.theage.com.au
AFL planning for ‘the replacements’ from VFL and other state leagues
Top-up players from other competitions may be used to ensure clubs can field a team amid a COVID outbreak.
If that's all correct, then Matt Hornsby was not only incompetent , but delusional about his own ability, taking on projects such as Dan and Freeman.
Are we allowed to discuss the effect of C*V*D on the AFL in coming season? It may just be that the team that manages this issue the best, could have some advantage come crunch time. Including getting there. You don't want 3 or 4 players out every second week - ie. OUT: Steele, Ryder, Gresham, Clark (CVD) !
AFL planning for ‘the replacements’ from VFL and other state leagues
Top-up players from other competitions may be used to ensure clubs can field a team amid a COVID outbreak.
I'm not sure if we can discuss whether or not we can discuss things.
Dr Spaceman
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Are we allowed to discuss the effect of C*V*D on the AFL in coming season? It may just be that the team that manages this issue the best, could have some advantage come crunch time. Including getting there. You don't want 3 or 4 players out every second week - ie. OUT: Steele, Ryder, Gresham, Clark (CVD) !
AFL planning for ‘the replacements’ from VFL and other state leagues
Top-up players from other competitions may be used to ensure clubs can field a team amid a COVID outbreak.
Great, another dumb idea that clubs will manipulate.
If they have 23 fit players, they play. It doesn't matter if they are some underdeveloped rookie, they are on your list, they play.
Clubs would need over 20 players unavailable for a match for the match to be postponed. Considering half the league already had COVID by now, I can't see this ever being an issue. Geez they are so weak as a league that doesn't like re-scheduling.
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Well it goes from de goey likely to be fired and end his career in disgrace to a slap on the wrist and having to watch an Adam Sandler movie ten times. Then the AFL draw for season 2022 comes out. First up, Saints vs Pies.
Watch the fecker get 30 and kick 5.
Watch the fecker get 30 and kick 5.
Sun Ra
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He'll be sitting out round 1 with COVID and god knows what else - take it to the bank.Well it goes from de goey likely to be fired and end his career in disgrace to a slap on the wrist and having to watch an Adam Sandler movie ten times. Then the AFL draw for season 2022 comes out. First up, Saints vs Pies.
Watch the fecker get 30 and kick 5.
The AFL are investigating his situation now, so they may yet suspend him.Well it goes from de goey likely to be fired and end his career in disgrace to a slap on the wrist and having to watch an Adam Sandler movie ten times. Then the AFL draw for season 2022 comes out. First up, Saints vs Pies.
Watch the fecker get 30 and kick 5.
Honestly , that's where they all shoot from, Sharman should be at least 70 out for his goalkicking drills.
sammm
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that one with Higgins, i thought he missed the goal.
sammm
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doubt it. AFL is too weak.
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If we'd traded for JDG, you can betcha he'd get the RWB discount of +12 weeks.
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Just an optical illusion, he was kicking from the other end of the ground.... GOAT tales.
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He'll play his one good game for the year against us that enables the media to talk about him as "The New Dusty" before going back to being lazy and useless.Well it goes from de goey likely to be fired and end his career in disgrace to a slap on the wrist and having to watch an Adam Sandler movie ten times. Then the AFL draw for season 2022 comes out. First up, Saints vs Pies.
Watch the fecker get 30 and kick 5.
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We've found our new CHB
Collingwood is the least of our worries , the squad they currently have will be lucky to be above the bottom 4 teams at the end of the year , a aging squad with few new young kids will need more than DeGoey firing to beat us.
Sidebottom and Pendleberry are past there best and there star Ruck Grundy has never been the same after signing his 10 year contract.
The talk that they will have Hannerbery to be right by round one is interesting because who is going to come out to give him a start.
Having Crouch , Steele , Jones , Gresham , Clark , Hill , Billings , Ross all filling a role Hannerbery can play - he might be up against it to find a spot when you have kids like Byrne , Bytel and Connolly all looking a good chance of playing in round 1.
Also all the hype during the pre-season of how well the guys are going actually might be real this year , after last season the guys might have been knocked down a few rungs and the have now getting there act together.
Wood as usual is burning up the track like he does every year , but if he can reproduce his training to on field play he will be a star.
Battle looks to be in fantastic shape and hopefully he steps up this year once he is given a role that he will be stationed at.
Webster is having the best preseason he has had in years and to me it looks both Paton and Webster will be in the line up.
So if Hannerberry , Wood , Battle , Paton , Gresham are all in 22 it's going to hurt a few egos in players that thought they had cemented there spot in the starting lineup.
Having Crouch , Steele , Jones , Gresham , Clark , Hill , Billings , Ross all filling a role Hannerbery can play - he might be up against it to find a spot when you have kids like Byrne , Bytel and Connolly all looking a good chance of playing in round 1.
Also all the hype during the pre-season of how well the guys are going actually might be real this year , after last season the guys might have been knocked down a few rungs and the have now getting there act together.
Wood as usual is burning up the track like he does every year , but if he can reproduce his training to on field play he will be a star.
Battle looks to be in fantastic shape and hopefully he steps up this year once he is given a role that he will be stationed at.
Webster is having the best preseason he has had in years and to me it looks both Paton and Webster will be in the line up.
So if Hannerberry , Wood , Battle , Paton , Gresham are all in 22 it's going to hurt a few egos in players that thought they had cemented there spot in the starting lineup.
