Training 2022 Pre Season

[SaintsSeptember]

Yeah good on him. We keep Paddy we probably don't have Max.
Paddy is so 2015. Do we really have to rehash this tired old topic?

And we all know Sharman is better than both of them.......and Plugger.....and Jezalenko.......and Cazaley.

 

[gringo2011]

Took your advice and now the cops are escorting me from coles

He meant move on quickly after you finish, security didn't even catch up to me. You shouldn't have stopped to have a cigarette afterwards. Don't half follow the instructions. Sheesh.

 

[StCicatriz]

He meant move on quickly after you finish, security didn't even catch up to me. You shouldn't have stopped to have a cigarette afterwards. Don't half follow the instructions. Sheesh.

Hahahahaha

 

[kosifantutti]

Good on the Swans for putting the brothers together.
We will do the same at the end of the year.
Can’t wait to watch the Kings give the Mac Cartins a football lesson in 2023.

We just need to wait for Ben King to be delisted.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I can't help saying good on him.
Sydney as a Rookie, takes some of the heat off, and playing as a back is safer for him.
As a forward the old " oops i was trying to punch the ball and happened to hit the forward in the head " is absolutely rife, and the Umps have demonstrated they don't care. ( Which is stupid from a future liability point of view ).

Completely agree - rapt for him, hope it goes well.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Paddy is so 2015. Do we really have to rehash this tired old topic?

 

[Munga]

Does this mean the Saints are in the clear when McCartin seeks compo down the track?

I wish him the best, but he's had too many hits to the head already and can't take another. He must've signed a waiver, surely. Fingers crossed for him.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Does this mean the Saints are in the clear when McCartin seeks compo down the track?

I wish him the best, but he's had too many hits to the head already and can't take another. He must've signed a waiver, surely. Fingers crossed for him.

The League is technically the employer and you can assume StKilda said no to continuing to play. I think it would be difficult to pin on us at this point.

 

[AirWinmar]

I'm rapt for Paddy that he can get another crack. Wish him well and really hope he doesn't have any more concussions

 

[Saintbloke]

I'm rapt for Paddy that he can get another crack. Wish him well and really hope he doesn't have any more concussions

Every bad concussion is one step closer to a catastrophe. I wish Paddy would just give it away.

 

[MordySaint]

Extremely happy to see McCartin at another club.

Our 2014 draft picks set us back 10 years.

We can all move on now.

 

[UnfinishedBusiness]

Extremely happy to see McCartin at another club.

Our 2014 draft picks set us back 10 years.

We can all move on now.

by your count we have 2 more years of complaining in front of us....

 

[hayes]

Extremely happy to see McCartin at another club.

Our 2014 draft picks set us back 10 years.

We can all move on now.

I remember thinking the 2013+14 drafts would be what set us up for the next 10+ years. Turned out they were the drafts that set us back 10 years. If I didn’t laugh I’d cry.

 

[Verdun66]

Good luck to Paddy. Massively disappointing episode for all involved, including poor Paddy. To muck up a no 1 pick is heartbreaking though.

But we just have to put it behind us. As someone pointed out we may not have Max King

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Max King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

1star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

1.4

5star

if Paddy had worked out. And there are swings and roundabouts. We have had some great success in getting some players in with minimum outlay…..eg Jack Steele

9

Jack Steele

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

.

So good luck to him. Will still be a bit surprised if it works out, but I don’t wish him or the Swans harm.

 

[MordySaint]

by your count we have 2 more years of complaining in front of us....

They string a few wins together early in the season and we will all stop complaining.

Probably the most important first 5 games of the year that I can remember.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Extremely happy to see McCartin at another club.

Our 2014 draft picks set us back 10 years.

We can all move on now.

We were stiff - picked up a bloke who turned out to be extremely susceptible to concussion. (Not sure how we can test for that)

Same draft picked up a key defender who never really recovered from an torn Achilles and then foot surgery. His first season form in 2015 suggested he might have been a long term prospect at CHB for us.


Pick 22 has now played 60+ games for us and we look to have found the best way to utilise his talents.


And we got 85 games out of Pick 41.

 

[BrutThough]

We were stiff - picked up a bloke who turned out to be extremely susceptible to concussion. (Not sure how we can test for that)

Same draft picked up a key defender who never really recovered from an torn Achilles and then foot surgery. His first season form in 2015 suggested he might have been a long term prospect at CHB for us.

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Pick 22 has now played 60+ games for us and we look to have found the best way to utilise his talents.


And we got 85 games out of Pick 41.

And 119 games from our rookie pick 1.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I remember thinking the 2013+14 drafts would be what set us up for the next 10+ years. Turned out they were the drafts that set us back 10 years. If I didn’t laugh I’d cry.

If you want to draft a particular type of player , you need to draft multiple.
For example, King, Battle, Sharman, Allison = Surely we get something to keep out of it all.

Trouble back then was , we needed to get a whole team. We were still desperately trying to phase out Ross Lyons propped up team of geriatrics and go-nowhere draftee's.
Sure you can say....1 forward, 1 defender, couple of mids, but unless you absolutely nail the draft , you don't end up with that.
We did the opposite to nailing the draft

 

[StCicatriz]

If you want to draft a particular type of player , you need to draft multiple.
For example, King, Battle, Sharman, Allison = Surely we get something to keep out of it all.

Trouble back then was , we needed to get a whole team. We were still desperately trying to phase out Ross Lyons propped up team of geriatrics and go-nowhere draftee's.
Sure you can say....1 forward, 1 defender, couple of mids, but unless you absolutely nail the draft , you don't end up with that.
We did the opposite to nailing the draft

paddy was just a symptom of a much larger problem back then. you dont get the paddy mccartin outcome by chance or luck.

 

[StCicatriz]

Does this mean the Saints are in the clear when McCartin seeks compo down the track?

I wish him the best, but he's had too many hits to the head already and can't take another. He must've signed a waiver, surely. Fingers crossed for him.

you would need a dr or neurologist to explain. but i assume hes been cleared to play by a dr. which means he is recovered. which is good news i'd say for us.

if he gets another knock and then retires, i dont see how he could then turn around and sue st kilda. i would have thought the AFL and or sydney would be the first hit.

 

[TobleroneJim]

Lonie was worth the pick 41 and obviously sinclair in the rookie draft was a massive success. DMac coming good means that overall 2014 was not terrible... not great, but not a complete failure.

 

[MordySaint]

Lonie was worth the pick 41 and obviously sinclair in the rookie draft was a massive success. DMac coming good means that overall 2014 was not terrible... not great, but not a complete failure.

I rewrite my previous post... Extremely happy to see McCartin, Goddard and Lonie off our list.

Great that DMac has come good after 6 years.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Every bad concussion is one step closer to a catastrophe. I wish Paddy would just give it away.

100% agree

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Lonie was worth the pick 41 and obviously sinclair in the rookie draft was a massive success. DMac coming good means that overall 2014 was not terrible... not great, but not a complete failure.

I don't consider waiting 8 years for a midfielder to "come good" to be a successful draft choice.
Waiting 4 years for Seb's breakout season was enough.

Lonie was a slow failure. In some ways i prefer the Paddy outcome. ( Not that i'd wish his serious injuries on anyone ).
3 of the 5 players taken after Lonie are still on an AFL list.
( Dale, McGovern, Daniel ).

 

[Remboy]

We were stiff - picked up a bloke who turned out to be extremely susceptible to concussion. (Not sure how we can test for that)

Maybe one of the tests at the draft camp should be to hit them on the head and see if causes concussion.