Teams 2022 Rate My Preseason Team

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Version 6 getting there slowly.
Preuss is gone now have 2 premo rucks.
12 keepers if Butters isn't a kent and 4 midpricers

 

[buttox]

Current team.
Everything changes as a few more rookies pop up.
I am loving the f/d dpp action this year.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Looking at the Rook options, would this season not be the season to run a 4 premo midfield + rooks.
Looks to be a lot of potential cash generation on this line???

 

[La Dispute]

V2

May actually end up rolling out something similar

 

[Shinboner1]

Looking at the Rook options, would this season not be the season to run a 4 premo midfield + rooks.
Looks to be a lot of potential cash generation on this line???

Then you have to try and trade in any number of 650k+ top priced mids when you could have started one

 

[Sherman41]

Bit of a different look this one.
Heavy down back, lighter in mids but I reckon 4 of them can go 115+ and Berry could go 95-100.

All going well I think there could be 15 keepers.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Then you have to try and trade in any number of 650k+ top priced mids when you could have started one

Don't know about that - Already have 3 over 600k, plus Neale who is worth that. (I see more value in a Walsh or Parish and spending the extra coin elsewhere. It is early however)

 

[Battlepants]

Looking at the Rook options, would this season not be the season to run a 4 premo midfield + rooks.
Looks to be a lot of potential cash generation on this line???

I think the structure that I will almost certainly be going this year is 4 premos (including Neale) + 1 midpricer + 3 rookies.

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Then you have to try and trade in any number of 650k+ top priced mids when you could have started one

Never gonna complete your team if you are trading blokes in for 650k

 

[ArdentEagle]

I think the structure that I will almost certainly be going this year is 4 premos (including Neale) + 1 midpricer + 3 rookies.

Makes sense.
Personally, I like the mid Rooks at this stage, think I'm leaning towards the extra mid pricer in the forwards - Maybe extra ruck coverage.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Then you have to try and trade in any number of 650k+ top priced mids when you could have started one

Most, if not all of the 650k+ mids will drop in price by the time you make your first upgrade.

 

[VainGlorious]

V2

May actually end up rolling out something similar
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[VainGlorious]

I am loving the f/d dpp action this year.

 

[Total_90's]

Thinking of throwing a FWD/MID magnet around to fill a gap until cash is made - Taranto. I cant see his scoring opportunities being impacted too greatly with Toby missing that chunk of games.

Adams is finally going to enter rarefied premo air IMO. Ave'd 109 in 2020 with inflated points. But with full preseason and clean run at it, I'm backing him in to step right up and complete his application for the pies captaincy. 516k is a price making him well worth the wild ride it could be.

Big Oscar will carry on his merry way and be a terrific upgrade launchpad come rounds 5 to 7. The moment a premo ruck slackens off, I will be pouncing.

If there is one thing we all learnt from last year though, its that stacking our defenders approaching round 1 isn't a bad idea. Depending in how players track in the lead up, I could make a few changes to ensure I at least start the season with minimum 525-575 from my 6 defenders. It was a good safety play to kick off 2021.

Players on pre season watch:
YEO - Who is going to take the reigns at WC? Yeo finished 2021 quite well. 2 scores below 97 once he saw out his first month. He then ave'd 93 over his next 8, 6 of which were losses. Seen far worse comebacks after 11 or so months out.
ROWELL - For obvious reasons.
PREUSS - Again, for obvious reasons. A terrific back up bench and cash cow option should the stars and moons align.
JAKE KELLY

29

Jake Kelly

Age

30

Ht

190cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

157.8

2star

D

8.1

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

104.1

2star

D

14.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.2

5star

MG

107.0

2star

- Most likely plays a full defensive role. If so Ridley is a 100% lock, and will be a top 6 scoring DEF come seasons end. Absolute steal at that price IMO.
ADAMS - see above. Super value IF the man finally stays fit.
FINN MAGINNESS - all comes down to how hawthorn structure their mids. Could Tom Mitchell or JOM play behind the footy and make a Sam Mitchell back of center transition? Finn didn't handle Covid, bubbles etc. well, so it'll be good to see how he handles what's possibly his last chance - From all reports, he's in terrific shape and in a better headspace currently.
CAL MILLS - his first season as a full time mid was absolutely flawless, scoring wise. Ave'd 27 possessions, 5 tackles a game, and plenty more upside with 17 shots at goal (9 goals 8 behinds). If all reports are true, he did a chunk of this with a suspect Achilles.

Rookies are a genuine guess at this point. Apart from the standouts, no one knows.

 

[Ingy]

I call this selection 'Bargains Ahoy!'.

Thirteen keepers.

Five mid-pricers, three with some prospects of becoming keepers (Kiddy, Cogs, Rowell). The other two (Preuss and Curnow) will make 200k each easily.

Four rooks on field, all in the mids.

Ruck cover. English had a 102.5 average last year, and at 24, he's just about to enter his prime. I wouldn't select him as a pure ruck at this stage but as a forward who can provide cover, he's good buying I reckon.

I fully expect De Goey to return to preseason training soon after January 18 and play Round 1. And he's a bargain. So he's in.

 

[VainGlorious]

I call this selection 'Bargains Ahoy!'.

Thirteen keepers.

Five mid-pricers, three with some prospects of becoming keepers (Kiddy, Cogs, Rowell). The other two (Preuss and Curnow) will make 200k each easily.

Four rooks on field, all in the mids.

Ruck cover. English had a 102.5 average last year, and at 24, he's just about to enter his prime. I wouldn't select him as a pure ruck at this stage but as a forward who can provide cover, he's good buying I reckon.

I fully expect De Goey to return to preseason training soon after January 18 and play Round 1. And he's a bargain. So he's in.

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Call me an intellectual Adonis with no moral compass and a penchant for the depraved, but I actually like that team.

If I had the cojones I would run something similar, but I don’t.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

I think we'll be okay to trade in a few 650k mids if a few of the 200k rookies make good cash - Berry, Daicos, Macrae jr, JHF, Ward and potentially Constable. They already have the extra 60-140k built into them to help upgrade them later.

I'd feel comfortable running 2 600k+ mids and Neale, supported by these guys. We will have reasonable understanding of their roles post AAMI and what to expect in output, rather than gamble on the JS of guys like O'Driscoll, McDonnagh, Dean, Gould. Rookie talk in December is a bit redundant but at least we can see there are clear barriers to these guys making the best 22, whereas its not the case for most of the 200k group. Last year we bet on Highmore who was dead for 10 weeks, Scott and McNeil who somehow survived 10 rounds, and a few teams ended up just running a donut at D8 because it was only Highmore/Kosi/Butts.

E.g. Would you rather Macrae + two bench def/fwd rookies or Ridley+Curnow+JHF. Given Macrae is sure to come down in price and Ridley is supported by cash generators with no JS issues it calls for genuine discussion. Curnow as a pick is a separate discussion pending health but he's shown a strong scoring ceiling in the past.

It will be pain to watch the big mids you dont pick average 125-140 over some stretches but we picked 2 better cash generators with better scoring, JS as well as run a safer structure. The cost may be going too deep down back, but I'd rather that then pick suspect rookies. If it looks like the defender rookies will be good then back to 4 premo mids, 3 premo mid would be a plan B if thinks go bad on teamsheets.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Full GnR team if you think Milera,Rioli,Preuss,Brodie and Cogs are guns....

 

[turtles]

Since 2007 this is the number of 115+ averaging players. (Finals included, 5 games minimum)


The average is 6.8 players a season averaging over 115. In 3 different seasons only 3 players achieved this.

Last year 14 did, more than double the average.

We could have alot of Overpriced SPs if the average reverts back to the norm, or alot of must haves if last year repeats.

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Since 2007 this is the number of 115+ averaging players. (Finals included, 5 games minimum)

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The average is 6.8 players a season averaging over 115. In 3 different seasons only 3 players achieved this.

Last year 14 did, more than double the average.

We could have alot of Overpriced SPs if the average reverts back to the norm, or alot of must haves if last year repeats.

I was very wary of this at the start of the season.
Could understand 2020 with the shortened Qs and ridiculous scaling.
I still don't understand how so many players averaged so much this year.

 

[turtles]

I was very wary of this at the start of the season.
Could understand 2020 with the shortened Qs and ridiculous scaling.
I still don't understand how so many players averaged so much this year.

Dont have any stats but i would assume midfielders and rucks attend more stoppages around the ground now than in the past.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Dont have any stats but i would assume midfielders and rucks attend more stoppages around the ground now than in the past.

Actually the stats show less ball-ups around the ground .....combination of the 6 x 6 x 6 rule and the "stand" rule .....speeding the game & opening it up = less ball-ups

 

[Total_90's]

Since 2007 this is the number of 115+ averaging players. (Finals included, 5 games minimum)

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The average is 6.8 players a season averaging over 115. In 3 different seasons only 3 players achieved this.

Last year 14 did, more than double the average.

We could have alot of Overpriced SPs if the average reverts back to the norm, or alot of must haves if last year repeats.

To me, in the past two seasons in particular, it felt like points were quite heavily weighted to the first half of games, when goals were kicked - And when scoring became dull and boring once coaches were on top of the 'stand' rule, goals were then worth a ton in the second half of games.
I feel like there's been a real shift in the way the points are weighted.
When the bottom rung of players were butchering it, it's almost allowed for more weight to be placed where most of our eyes are placed anyway.
I literally watched Atkins from Geelong kick a goal in the final minutes in a game (which I'm almost positive was the sealer, and last goal kicked), and he received bugger all for it. He wouldn't have received more than 15 for the sealer.

The 3300 rules pretty much tells us that in relation to that particular Team A v Team B contest, everything within it will only be generally be worth X amount. For the points to be spread between so many 'elite and newly elite' players, as per your graph, it tells me there's a definite shift.

Did the inflated points of 2020 see a rethink at the beginning of 2021 for what's more attractive and pretty?

 

[turtles]

Actually the stats show less ball-ups around the ground .....combination of the 6 x 6 x 6 rule and the "stand" rule .....speeding the game & opening it up = less ball-ups

Less ball ups but those midfielders seem to me be attending all of them, all over the field. Higher number of players around each contest now.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Less ball ups but those midfielders seem to me be attending all of them, all over the field. Higher number of players around each contest now.

Would be interesting to compare Mids DE changes in recent seasons