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Hey hey, now now, hey now. I love Rid's, but need to see his role. Suspect he'll be very up and down this year week to week.
Will bring him in after a couple of down's in a row
Hopefully he doesn't get an injury this year
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Current team relies on a few cheap rookies playing - am I being unrealistic?
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Here's my first attempt for the season:
Gonna make my team 5 minutes before the first bounce of the round while pissed for maximum epicness.
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Macrae/Neale/Gawn/Grundy are 4 legit VC/C options.
Assuming all 16 of your non rookies are keepers, that's still 6 upgrades on the hardest line to upgrade. Don't know why anyone would want to put themselves through all that tbh. Most of the time the easiest early upgrades are to fallen defender or forward premiums in the 400k-450k range. Gun midfielders are usually still 550k+ for the most part even after they bottom out.
Thinking totally outside the Box this year and going 10 mid price players and 20 rookies
My aim is to win my league by making as much cash as possible and just make finals then have cash to burn
anybody tried this and if yes what was the result or pitfalls
My aim is to win my league by making as much cash as possible and just make finals then have cash to burn
anybody tried this and if yes what was the result or pitfalls
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I did that a couple of seasons ago. Visited this forum a day or so before the start and basically cobbled together a team based on everyone else's. Had my best start ever but my trading "prowess" dropped me back to mid table rabble soon after...
6 upgrades needed from 35 trades.
I can do 4 down and 1 up, 6 times and still have 5 trades for injuries.
This is easier to upgrade to a finished team because it has more keepers.
Not harder.
The problem is missing break out candidates in the forwards and defence.
And not having the correct captain options.
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Do it! It might just work and if it doesn't what's the worst that can happen?
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24 downgrade trades?
I would assume 12
2 down 1 up gets most premo mids.
18 trades for upgrading + 17 trades for being frivolous with.
Here is what I have so far. Definitely a work in progress and keen for a little insight. Have been tinkering with the mix a bit and really not confident in the rookie Defenders especially.
The re-classification in Round 7 (should) give me more flexibility with Daicos hopefully get DEF status added.
Unfortunately this means I have had to sacrifice Gawn down to Witts and Miller (at this stage) in the Mids has made way to avoid having a Horne-Francis type sit on the bench.
The forwards I am not super bullish on, Dunkley looks an automatic and keen on Butters via natural progression, outside of that feels very up in the air, add to this we have some good money making potential in the likes of Cogs, McGovern (giving me a little bit of Ziebell vibes, not ability wise but price point) and potentially Brodie & Xerri. Rachelle will move back down if one of these don't make the cut.
If Hinge gets picked and/or a Defender rookie comes from the clouds this will likely re-structure.
I feel this side ticks a lot of boxes and ensures I have a large $$$ production capability heading into Round 1.
The re-classification in Round 7 (should) give me more flexibility with Daicos hopefully get DEF status added.
Unfortunately this means I have had to sacrifice Gawn down to Witts and Miller (at this stage) in the Mids has made way to avoid having a Horne-Francis type sit on the bench.
The forwards I am not super bullish on, Dunkley looks an automatic and keen on Butters via natural progression, outside of that feels very up in the air, add to this we have some good money making potential in the likes of Cogs, McGovern (giving me a little bit of Ziebell vibes, not ability wise but price point) and potentially Brodie & Xerri. Rachelle will move back down if one of these don't make the cut.
If Hinge gets picked and/or a Defender rookie comes from the clouds this will likely re-structure.
I feel this side ticks a lot of boxes and ensures I have a large $$$ production capability heading into Round 1.
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i think we're in the same BF division, we can share rabbleness
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Okie dokie, here's my sixth iteration.
To recap, this is my first go at SC, so any feedback would be great.
$129k in the bank so some on the bench can be upgraded when teams are confirmed if necessary.
New additions have been Stewart, Sicily, Brodie. Heeney, Martin and Chapman taken away.
I quite liked their value, but the more I've tried to imagine how the season plays out, the more I struggled to see comparative value in the defence rookies compared to their mid and fwd counterparts. No doubt there will be some there, but it feels harder to predict, so I just decided to have my backline dominated by a combination of evergreens and undervalued premos, with the idea that cash gen will be easier to manage on the other lines.
Non-premo rookies aside, the two I feel most uncertain about are Brodie and Sicily. Toying with alternatives for both.
Over to you.
To recap, this is my first go at SC, so any feedback would be great.
$129k in the bank so some on the bench can be upgraded when teams are confirmed if necessary.
New additions have been Stewart, Sicily, Brodie. Heeney, Martin and Chapman taken away.
I quite liked their value, but the more I've tried to imagine how the season plays out, the more I struggled to see comparative value in the defence rookies compared to their mid and fwd counterparts. No doubt there will be some there, but it feels harder to predict, so I just decided to have my backline dominated by a combination of evergreens and undervalued premos, with the idea that cash gen will be easier to manage on the other lines.
Non-premo rookies aside, the two I feel most uncertain about are Brodie and Sicily. Toying with alternatives for both.
Over to you.
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Haven’t gone that drastic before. Have done a heap of rookies (every one named) and then filled in the rest with Premos. Had about a million in the bank. Didn’t trade until Round 5. Absolutely hammered leagues. Had two trades every week of league finals and shitloads of cash.
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probably, but if you’re prepared to sacrifice Rowell you should be able to get it to work.
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Hmm. But Lloyd and Stewart's season averages for 2021 are basically identical, and yet Lloyd's last 3 week average was 124.7 while Stewart's was 114.3. Also, the Swans defence has changed over the past six months, and I'm a bit skeptical that Lloyd is going to play the same role in the Swans' grid going forward. His performance in the preseason hasn't helped that suspicion.
Crisp and Ridley seem like comparatively good value. I've strongly considered the latter. Thing is... I can't see Chris Scott altering Tom Stewart's role and he's just a wonderful player that I love watching as a neutral. So there's a bit me going with what I know and trust.
Not sure I agree. Dawson was playing mostly wing so didn’t impact Lloyd so much. To me, Sydney look like they are trying to be faster out of defence, with Blakey and Campbell being given more rebounding opportunity.
Still think he’s a good pick as he’ll take all the kick outs, but can’t see him going back over 110 average. In saying that, he’s currently in my team, but He’s the first to go should a decent rookie be named.
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You could be right about the improvement side of things, but the flipside is that Stewart's lowest price in 2021 was higher than either Lloyd or Crisp.
Sorry for the n00b question, but does it actually matter if your premos don't considerably increase in value, so long as their results remain consistently among the highest? Like how much more are you expecting Grundy and Gawn to go up in value?
I'm just thinking of a sharemarket comparison. Something like Apple. You pay a premium for it, and the returns are no where near as crazy if you're on-the-ball enough to invest in a unicorn, but its been a reliable moneyspinner for mum and dad investors for years because its practically guaranteed to make products that people want to buy. So long as Stewart isn't injured (a valid concern, to be sure) he is absolutely integral to how Geelong play football. And I'm quite bearish on Geelong's stocks this year (unlike the Swans), so I reckon the ball is going spend a whole lot of time in their defence.
Good question. Following your sharemarket analogy - I think you need a mix of blue chips and undervalued companies for your Premo picks.
Blue chips are your Gawn/Grundy types and those that finished top 10 in their position. You pay the premium to get good reliable performance and know they will still be in the top % of performers at the end of the year. You need at least 3 of these to be your go-to captain choices.
Undervalued is the area I feel is most overlooked. These are players who weren’t in the top 10 for their position last year, but you are hoping will finish there this year. This can be obvious ones like your return from injury players such as Sicily. Or the other one I feel people ignore are the players who could take that next small step and perform at blue chip level for a lower price. Let’s use Andrew Brayshaw as an example. Say I pick him over Jack Steele because I think he is undervalued. If Brayshaw takes the next step and averages the same as Steele then I’ve saved $100k and can use that to get Steele in later. At the same time everyone else will be looking to trade in Brayshaw. So the net is I have half a season of maybe an extra 10 ppg from starting Brayshaw and trading in Steele vs somebody who starts with Steele and trades in Brayshaw. It doesn’t sound like much, but if you nail a few of these picks then it makes a big difference.
Looking at my team, I’ve got 5 x blue chip and 7 x undervalued as my premo picks.
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Yes but on the sharemarket, as in SC, sell high, buy low.
Doesn’t matter if your premos don’t increase, but why get someone at a high price and leave out others at their low price. Means paying more in the end.
I think there’s improvement in Crisp and Lloyd, thus currently underpriced. On the flip side I can’t see Stewart rising in value much. You’ll want all three by years end IMO. Best to get them when priced low.
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