Autopsy 2022 Round 1 - Blues BEAT the Tigers. The drought is over!

[CoachB]

Here’s divisive for you.

I didn’t hate LOB’s game nearly as much as others.

LOB will only be a player when he is willing do the hard stuff consistently...too soft for mine.

CB

 

[CoachB]

I thought Voss' comments about how the "back 7" worked together said a lot about our new structures.

Noticed we didn't get stuck in the back half very often, when last year it took 5 minutes to get to the wing from a kick out.

CB

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Anyone else see the stat that noone on the Carlton team last night had beaten the Tigers before?

Is that right?

In Round 1

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Holy Shit.. imagine if we had Liam Jones

19

Liam Jones

Age

33

Ht

199cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

134.5

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.1

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

instead of Oscar in that back 6. Oscar was good but Liam Jones

19

Liam Jones

Age

33

Ht

199cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

134.5

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.1

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

is elite.

 

[kingkingston]

Adam Saad

42

Adam Saad

Age

30

Ht

178cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

349.1

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

388.3

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.2

3star

had 17 kicks last night out of the backlines at 100 percent efficiency

 

[Stamos]

One thing I do respect about LOB is he'll keep going, obviously had a mare in the first qtr but continued battling and did a few nice things late on. Just needs to refine the consistency in his game.

He's got some flaws in his game, but we're going to be a better team come September if he's playing well. He'll iron out the flaws playing 1s, not 2s.

 

[kingkingston]

Holy sh*t.. imagine if we had Liam Jones instead of Oscar in that back 6. Oscar was good but Liam Jones is elite.

somewhat not true. Jones was good but he often got caught out when he ran off his man to defend up the ground. Got caught on the overlap. Jones also wasn't a good kick, Oscar is a better kick and probably better at kicking those quick kicks out of the backline

 

[Christou2Kouta]

Love love love Cerra. He's that rare type of balanced mid that everyone needs. Inside/outside, quick hands, clean, kicks both feet.
Can not wait to see him and Walsh in the same team. Epic 10 year combination incoming.

And I love Durdin, he is a player. I love them all but he's a new fav.

Lots to work on, loads to work with. Bloody special night at the G, you could feel it in the air.

Agreed. In the past we've had midfielders who are explosive but no endurance, tough but no skills, skilled but soft etc. We tried to organise them to play to their strengths, and when the stars aligned we could play some good footy in patches. But in every game, at some point the bloke with no skills needs to hit a crucial target, the soft bloke needs to stick a tackle and the bloke with no endurance needs to put in second and third efforts, and in those patches we concede goals which eventually costs us the game.

Having well rounded players just means you're less vulnerable to circumstances conspiring against you and results in greater consistency of outcomes. I love that Cerra, Hewitt and Kennedy are all tough, dual sided players. You don't need to be as quick if you can break tackles and turn in any direction to dispose of the ball. Having these blokes in the engine room to complement Cripps and Walsh really sets us up for sustainable success.

 

[skadoosh]

Cerra has beaten them once in 4 attempts and Hewett actually 3 times from 7 games.
Haven't looked at any of the existing Carlton listed players though.

Yep the stat was passed onto me. And I'm assuming we're only talking players who've only played with the Blues.

 

[TD2010]

Like anything in life
To be good at something, you have to fail sometimes many times over before success.

Spent time in the wing last night. He's so versatile.

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[OldBlueFan]

He's got some flaws in his game, but we're going to be a better team come September if he's playing well. He'll iron out the flaws playing 1s, not 2s.

LOB, for mine, looked like a player running around shitting himself. Not in the way that most of his detractors here think, ie. that he's soft. But rather that he's too scared of making mistakes ... and so he makes them (have a look when he's going back for that goal, you could just see his mind going "god I hope don't ****ing miss this ...". I reckon it's all in his head, because he's definitely not soft, and when it starts to click for him, he'll be away.

So I 100% agree that the best place for him to develop will be the 1's. But on last night's performance, if the plan is to play/rotate Walsh on a wing when he's back, then you'd keep Setters over LOB. I guess he's got a couple of weeks to turn that around.

 

[skadoosh]

When's the last time us, or any team for that matter has had the top 5 disposals for the game with each of them kicking 1 goal+?

 

[forever blue 1]

LOB, for mine, looked like a player running around shitting himself. Not in the way that most of his detractors here think, ie. that he's soft. But rather that he's too scared of making mistakes ... and so he makes them (have a look when he's going back for that goal, you could just see his mind going "god I hope don't ******* miss this ...". I reckon it's all in his head, because he's definitely not soft, and when it starts to click for him, he'll be away.

So I 100% agree that the best place for him to develop will be the 1's. But on last night's performance, if the plan is to play/rotate Walsh on a wing when he's back, then you'd keep Setters over LOB. I guess he's got a couple of weeks to turn that around.

I’m a fan of Lob i genuinely think it will happen for him

 

[TD2010]

Love love love Cerra. He's that rare type of balanced mid that everyone needs. Inside/outside, quick hands, clean, kicks both feet.
Can not wait to see him and Walsh in the same team. Epic 10 year combination incoming.

And I love Durdin, he is a player. I love them all but he's a new fav.

Lots to work on, loads to work with. Bloody special night at the G, you could feel it in the air.

Richmond really targeted Cerra, crunched him at every opportunity, LOVED he just got back up everytime and kept going

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[SammaGilberto]

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

He's got some flaws in his game, but we're going to be a better team come September if he's playing well. He'll iron out the flaws playing 1s, not 2s.

But then the question is whether another player eg Philp, Carroll, even Willo - has more upside in that winger role....

 

[SammaGilberto]

But then the question is whether another player eg Philp, Carroll, even Willo - has more upside in that winger role....

Philp was very impressive in the VFL prac match before the seniors, will be interesting to see how his 2022 pans out.

 

[fizzkakz]

Adam Saad

42

Adam Saad

Age

30

Ht

178cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

349.1

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

388.3

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.2

3star

had 17 kicks last night out of the backlines at 100 percent efficiency

Amusing that the rank spray off the side of the boot that happened to land in Cripps' lap goes towards that 100%.

 

[katmanblue]

We won by 15 goals.

Was wondering if anyone made a case for AFL selection.

 

[Smegger]

If I was to compare Durdin to someone it would be Papley

Was referring to his role. Small fwd who could occasionally have a mid rotation.

Re comparisons as a player, yeah probably closer to Papley. Although Papley is pretty good overhead, not sure of Durdins marking at this stage.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Adam Saad gets a lot of heat for not being defensive enough.

But he is an absolute beast one-one-one. Especially in the air.

Wins a lot of contests he has no right to.

Combination of desperation, clever body positioning (often tapping the ball to his advantage) and core strength.

Me likey. Me likey a lot!

I watched a replay of the game after watching it live at the local and for mine Saad was the best player on the ground last night. I didn’t see him out a foot wrong all night and his balance between defence and attack was almost perfect.

 

[jj1978]

He's got some flaws in his game, but we're going to be a better team come September if he's playing well. He'll iron out the flaws playing 1s, not 2s.

Best thing for LOB is to be unaware and take a huge hit and realise he's going to be able to get back up. Some little things last night, like running the ball over the boundary as first thought instead of thinking.. hmm I have a window of opportunity to take this on, but I could get crunched. Hopefully his last quarter coathanger and goal will help him in this regard.

 

[CJMB]

Was nice having literally 0 hack exits from stoppages. No under 9s stoppage setup grab ball up and unders. fu** that's just. All coaching. Well done Vossy and team

Listen to Pitto's interview on SEN Captain's Run this morning. He actually referenced the improvement of our current system/style compare to just "hacking it out" like we did before...

 

[KohPhi]

Serious question..how many times is too many times to watch a replay of a last quarter of football?

....asking for a friend

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

In Round 1

Was that the qualifier? So one of those meaningless stats that deliberately excludes certain players?
Had they said nobody has beaten Richmond, it would have allowed Cerra and Hewett to be included and probably a few others that have beaten Richmond in later rounds. Had they said nobody has won in round 1, that would've allowed others to be included. So let's narrow the criteria to be Richmond AND round 1, then we can make Carlton look shit.