Preview 2022 Round 3 Carlton vs Hawthorn Sunday April 3rd 1.10PM @ MCG - Team Post #1413

[Cripps2Walsh]

Also, if it is wet, I would like to see a minimum of 6 long sleeves out there please.

JSOS, looking at you to get the ball rolling mate.

 

[cookie monster]

I can't imagine it being a particularly strong message given that he has already missed the first 2 matches. It's not as if he is lacking in professionalism/work ethic.

Work ethic where?
On the training track, or in games?
His work ethic in games is pretty cringe

 

[Dadda Dave]

Work ethic where?
On the training track, or in games?
His work ethic in games is pretty cringe

Nothing wrong with his work ethic imo.
He has a decent crack .

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Weather forecast is for light rain most of the day,who does that favour?


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[cookie monster]

Nothing wrong with his work ethic imo.
He has a decent crack .

There's a reason why he hasn't started the first two games of the year under the new regime

 

[Aphrodite]

If Plowman doesn't get selected for tonight's game given the outs, our coaches are making a massive statement.

I'm not fussed if he does, out of necessity, but I'll also be very happy in the message they're sending if he doesn't.

Tonight's game


We play Sunday afternoon.

 

[Stamos]

There's a reason why he hasn't started the first two games of the year under the new regime

Is that the same reason he was in a conditioning block late in the pre-season and missed the first round of praccy matches?

 

[Mr_Plow]

Work ethic where?
On the training track, or in games?
His work ethic in games is pretty cringe

One of the fittest at the club, always in high-level physical condition, multiple top 10 best and fairest finishes. Seems Voss/Hamill don't like him, which is their choice.

But given McGovern's inability to stay healthy, suspect we'll be seeing plenty of Plowman this season.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

There's a reason why he hasn't started the first two games of the year under the new regime

It's not work ethic. He's commonly in the top 5 for distance run in a game.... Kinda blows the work ethic comment apart

 

[Stamos]

Seems Voss/Hamill don't like him, which is their choice.

Or he had an injury issue late in the pre-season?

 

[cookie monster]

Lots of Plowman apologists on here
"He runs a lot in games"; then the argument is what is he actually doing? Because his impact is minimal, if not often negative
Sorry to have upset you all. He's just not that good

 

[Stamos]

Lots of Plowman apologists on here
"He runs a lot in games"; then the argument is what is he actually doing? Because his impact is minimal, if not often negative
Sorry to have upset you all. He's just not that good

Blanketing players like Charlie Cameron and Papley is minimal impact?
He has consistently played on the oppositions' best small or medium forward. There's a reason he's been so high in the B&F the last few years.
Some 'supporters' are too blind to see it.

 

[goreds]

Blanketing players like Charlie Cameron and Papley is minimal impact?
He has consistently played on the oppositions' best small or medium forward. There's a reason he's been so high in the B&F the last few years.
Some 'supporters' are too blind to see it.

I don't think it's his ability that is the issue anymore. Our defence is not playing the man-on-man that we have in the pervious few years, which suited Plow. Now it's a sliding style which seems to suit others in our line up. I think his spot is now as the 3rd tall because of the smalls we have back there but he is just a bit short and doesn't have the spring to play that position. Time will tell. IMHO

 

[Espio]

People being tough on Plow here. Prime Luke Hodge would have looked big ordinary playing behind some of the defensive pressure we have served up the past few years.


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[SkyhorseTamer]

Lots of Plowman apologists on here
"He runs a lot in games"; then the argument is what is he actually doing? Because his impact is minimal, if not often negative
Sorry to have upset you all. He's just not that good

That's not what you said. Take your old man know it all attitude and turn it into a coherent argument. You slung shit about work ethic and got shot down. So youve changed tac. It's clear you don't like him and it's probably some bull shit like he smiled after a loss and has nothing to do with his playing ability. If you don't like him cool? But don't make up shit about work ethic.

 

[Stamos]

I don't think it's his ability that is the issue anymore. Our defence is not playing the man-on-man that we have in the pervious few years, which suited Plow. Now it's a sliding style which seems to suit others in our line up. I think his spot is now as the 3rd tall because of the smalls we have back there but he is just a bit short and doesn't have the spring to play that position. Time will tell. IMHO

We'll see.
Given that he had some issue late in the pre-season, I'm not sure that we can say it's been decided already.
Man-on-man or zone in defence, I'd still pick Plow over Newman. But I'm happy to back Voss at the moment.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

I don't think it's his ability that is the issue anymore. Our defence is not playing the man-on-man that we have in the pervious few years, which suited Plow. Now it's a sliding style which seems to suit others in our line up. I think his spot is now as the 3rd tall because of the smalls we have back there but he is just a bit short and doesn't have the spring to play that position. Time will tell. IMHO

Which is completely fine and if he's not up to it in this system then oh well. A fair enough argument. Unlike the shit slinging of cookie.

 

[Arr0w]

Lots of Plowman apologists on here
"He runs a lot in games"; then the argument is what is he actually doing? Because his impact is minimal, if not often negative
Sorry to have upset you all. He's just not that good

You really are a revisionist, predicated by doom, until a situation most see, smacks you in the face

 

[bigblueboy]

It's highly likely Plowman will play this week and match up against Gunston or Breust.
They are still Hawthorn's best two forwards and Plowman is - given our injuries - the best match up for either, even though we literally have a dozen defenders on our list.

 

[Arr0w]

We'll see.
Given that he had some issue late in the pre-season, I'm not sure that we can say it's been decided already.
Man-on-man or zone in defence, I'd still pick Plow over Newman. But I'm happy to back Voss at the moment.

Another that can't separate bias from reality

"Side/coaches are doing well, better than past players/coaches, but will be better again if they heed my opinion"

 

[Stamos]

Another that can't separate bias from reality

"Side/coaches are doing well, better than past players/coaches, but will be better again if they heed my opinion"

Maybe read what I posted again?

 

[Arr0w]

Maybe read what I posted again?

Why would I need too, it's always the same no matter the outcome

 

[Aphrodite]

Who is his old man?

Mr Silvagni

 

[El Topo]

We'll see.
Given that he had some issue late in the pre-season, I'm not sure that we can say it's been decided already.
Man-on-man or zone in defence, I'd still pick Plow over Newman. But I'm happy to back Voss at the moment.

Plow's disposal when attacking is underrated, he's more than the negative player he had to be in Teague's backline

 

[Aphrodite]

Voss to celebrate another milestone

Michael Voss will notch up 400 games at the elite level this Sunday as a player and coach.

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