2023/2024 Gold Coast Draft & Trade periods

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Apparently is a bit of Jeremy Cameron like and can find the ball up the ground and play key back. Like a better version of Jack Lukosius

Luko needs a big year, would go along way to pushing into the top 8. Needs a clear role (and to develop a bit of mongrel)

I'd say North and GWS would both be keen on Cadman. I like the sound of Clark, him and Buss would do nicely.

 

[Ben Drever]

Someone who isn’t one dimensional and needs to play in the midfield otherwise it’s VFL

Wouldn’t mind a bit of X factor considering we losing one if the leagues best

 

[CanYouFeelTheSunburn]

Cheers.
Catch me at 6.20pm AEST tonight on Channel 7news for the scoop

Well.. he didn't nominate us

 

[kreglze]

Isn't too late to offer a new contract after trade period has started? When the deadline

Contracts run till October 31.

 

[CommittedSuns]

Fiorini leaving to the pies worries me as there cap is just as stuffed as ours so we would have to cover a majority of his contract which just doesnt seem necessary

 

[Ben Drever]

Devon Robertson is get able at the lions
Supposably he is to make way for Dunkley..

Think he was a pick 19-20 2 years ago.
WA U18 captain I think

Would be a cheap pick up

 

[Choppers]

Devon Robertson is get able at the lions
Supposably he is to make way for Dunkley..

Think he was a pick 19-20 2 years ago.
WA U18 captain I think

Would be a cheap pick up

Pick 22, 2019

 

[Ben Drever]

Played only 8 games this year for an average of 12 touches.

Not worth the risk now looking deeper into it

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Fiorini leaving to the pies worries me as there cap is just as stuffed as ours so we would have to cover a majority of his contract which just doesnt seem necessary

He will sign a new deal 3 years @ whatever. No way we pay him a cent to play somewhere else. Defeats the point of trading him.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Played only 8 games this year for an average of 12 touches.

Not worth the risk now looking deeper into it

Better to give Flanders a go, Robertson looks promising though. WC should be all over him.

 

[briztoon]

They also don’t have a big crop of first round talent coming thru their academy either

No, we just have highly rated father son kids. Wait until 2024 and 2025 for our academy crops.

 

[kreglze]

No, we just have highly rated father son kids. Wait until 2024 and 2025 for our academy crops.

Just the best of both worlds

 

[RowellAnderson12]

Played only 8 games this year for an average of 12 touches.

Not worth the risk now looking deeper into it

He basically got the mirror image career of Sam flanders

Just sat forward with minimal mid time

 

[RowellAnderson12]

No, we just have highly rated father son kids. Wait until 2024 and 2025 for our academy crops.

I was talking about Melbourne there

 

[GC2015]

We highly overrate our academy players. In 12 years the best player we have produced is Jack Bowes.

Need to keep hitting the draft at this point while the culture is good and the list is stable as getting quality young players coming through on minimum coin the first couple of years to balce the TPP that either become best 22 or at worst retain some trade currency.

Try to get some decent role players on fair coin and hopefully we can be competitive and in a position to attract a big fish in the next couple of years.

Historically, yes... but a few of these academy picks over the last three years were genuinely highly rated. For example, here is a draft guide from Cal Twomey in September 2020 where he has Davies as the predicted pick 13 and Jeffrey as the predicted pick 20. That's two first round picks (along with Elijah Hollands who we took with pick 7) that we added to our list that year. So we essentially walked away with three first round picks that year, despite only having one actual first round pick at our disposal. Budarick was also considered a top 30 pick going into the 2019 draft.

Even though we've had a decent amount of high end talent coming through the academy in the last three years, we still always brought in top 10 picks as well: 2019 - Rowell (1) + Anderson (2), 2020 - Hollands (7), 2021 - Andrew (5). So we've accumulated quite a bit of high end talent in the last three years alone.

Although we don't appear to have any academy standouts coming through this year, we possibly have three top 30 picks coming through next year, with Walter being the real standout currently rated around the pick 2 mark. This is a very different situation to the one we faced about 10 years ago when academy players like Jared Ellis would end up on our list and never even get close to debuting. By the end of next year, we might able to say we have added six top 30 picks to our list from our academy and most of them we won't have paid for with an actual pick.

Re: Academy players - you are probably right they are over rated. From memory both Davies and Jeffrey were seen as end of first round picks though. Is it reasonable to expect as AFL's popularity grows in QLD the chance of getting an A-grader or two through the academy must increase?

We're currently experiencing a huge population boom on the Gold Coast (an estimated 90k will move here in the next five years) and a lot of them will be from either Melbourne or Sydney, with a lower amount from other footy states. So we should have plenty of youngsters moving here who already have a passion for footy and I'm sure that will result in more stars being produced from our academy.

 

[Ben Drever]

Indicative draft order: Picks almost set, but big shake-up ahead

Plenty of movement is expected at the top-end of the draft order in the upcoming trade period

www.afl.com.au

So going by above.

Suns gave Freo
Brodie (500k salary) picks 19 61 69

To get picks 31 and 72 in 2022


Suns gave the Pies
Pick 22 46 58 79 and a future 4th now pick 70

To get pick 34 52 and 70 in 2022

 

[OB11]

Indicative draft order: Picks almost set, but big shake-up ahead

Plenty of movement is expected at the top-end of the draft order in the upcoming trade period

www.afl.com.au

So going by above.

Suns gave Freo
Brodie (500k salary) picks 19 61 69

To get picks 31 and 72 in 2022


Suns gave the Pies
Pick 22 46 58 79 and a future 4th now pick 70

To get pick 34 52 and 70 in 202

So in the wash we took a punt on the Pies being a bottom 4 team again to make that trade relatively even. There was not much upside for that trade to come back in our favour.

 

[OB11]

Historically, yes... but a few of these academy picks over the last three years were genuinely highly rated. For example, here is a draft guide from Cal Twomey in September 2020 where he has Davies as the predicted pick 13 and Jeffrey as the predicted pick 20. That's two first round picks (along with Elijah Hollands who we took with pick 7) that we added to our list that year. So we essentially walked away with three first round picks that year, despite only having one actual first round pick at our disposal. Budarick was also considered a top 30 pick going into the 2019 draft.

Even though we've had a decent amount of high end talent coming through the academy in the last three years, we still always brought in top 10 picks as well: 2019 - Rowell (1) + Anderson (2), 2020 - Hollands (7), 2021 - Andrew (5). So we've accumulated quite a bit of high end talent in the last three years alone.

Although we don't appear to have any academy standouts coming through this year, we possibly have three top 30 picks coming through next year, with Walter being the real standout currently rated around the pick 2 mark. This is a very different situation to the one we faced about 10 years ago when academy players like Jared Ellis would end up on our list and never even get close to debuting. By the end of next year, we might able to say we have added six top 30 picks to our list from our academy and most of them we won't have paid for with an actual pick.


We're currently experiencing a huge population boom on the Gold Coast (an estimated 90k will move here in the next five years) and a lot of them will be from either Melbourne or Sydney, with a lower amount from other footy states. So we should have plenty of youngsters moving here who already have a passion for footy and I'm sure that will result in more stars being produced from our academy.

In the end I don't care how they are rated pre-draft it only matters that when they come in they don't perform like 1st Rd picks historically.

2 years ago we gave Fyfe and Nicholls spots on the lists. Yes it was a free hit at that stage but that's the sort of quality that has been coming through our academy. Maybe the club needs to invest more in this area like Sydney who pay high level coaches like Leon Cameron (I assume outside any soft cap) to develop their talent.

 

[Young_Guns]

So in the wash we took a punt on the Pies being a bottom 4 team again to make that trade relatively even. There was not much upside for that trade to come back in our favour.

It was a dumb trade at the time and even worse now. We had Collingwood where we wanted them needing the points to get Daicos. We should have been able to extract a good amount of points advantage but basically gifted him to them.

It’s why I don’t like this continual moving picks back a year. Our team just doesn’t take advantage or gain anything and the picks are slowly just sliding down the draft order instead.

 

[Stroppy]

In the end I don't care how they are rated pre-draft it only matters that when they come in they don't perform like 1st Rd picks historically.

2 years ago we gave Fyfe and Nicholls spots on the lists. Yes it was a free hit at that stage but that's the sort of quality that has been coming through our academy. Maybe the club needs to invest more in this area like Sydney who pay high level coaches like Leon Cameron (I assume outside any soft cap) to develop their talent.

Big sponsors putting in big money that is outside the soft cap.
Our big sponsor is the AFL, who keeps it tight.
Find a sponsor, have a well funded academy.

 

[RowellAnderson12]

Big sponsors putting in big money that is outside the soft cap.
Our big sponsor is the AFL, who keeps it tight.
Find a sponsor, have a well funded academy.

Anyone going on holiday to Qatar or Saudi Arabia??

Bring a footy, get the Gold Coast $uns some new oil daddy sponsorships

 

[TheSunGod]

Dyson Heppell has signed on with Essendon for another year. Thank God - bullet dodged.

 

[exile]

had a dream that we traded atkins to freo

 

[Emerald Sun]

had a dream that we traded atkins to freo

Hope they have the decency to give us pick 19 back

 

[kreglze]

Obviously might not be true but another name.