2023/2024 Gold Coast Draft & Trade periods

[Jirik13]

That is not what is reported.

FWIW, Twomey came up with the news that pick 7 is on the table. He was specifically asked by Lyon on SEN this morning 'What Suns expect to get back' and Twomey did not answer. He left it open.

 

[Deleted member 2402071]

I doubt Bowes in on 700K. Just because somebody said it here it does not mean it's correct. I can't remember but I believe he was not in that salary bracket in Herald (and who says Herald guesses are correct). Deferred salary? Possibly.

I would add Jeffrey to the list. Bloody talented. Signed 4 years contract when drafted.

He is on a heavily backloaded contract. If his contract average was $500k, last 2yrs very likely to be $650-750k.

Thus we must dangle a carrot and see who bites.

Something obviously in the works to want to push this trade through this year.

 

[Southern Sun]

Crows are a team that should be all over it. Give up pick 5 for rankine then get pick 7 back with a bowes deal. Probably still get SA lad phillipou with pick 7

 

[Jirik13]

Crows are a team that should be all over it. Give up pick 5 for rankine then get pick 7 back with a bowes deal. Probably still get SA lad phillipou with pick 7

Some Crows fans are

pick 7 + Rankine + Bowes -> pick 5

 

[TylerDurden]

Would be us or Ess. Only clubs that have the coin to take on the full contract.

 

[OB11]

Crows are a team that should be all over it. Give up pick 5 for rankine then get pick 7 back with a bowes deal. Probably still get SA lad phillipou with pick 7

So what we are saying is that we pretty much give Rankine away to dump Bowes contract

 

[Jirik13]

Would be us or Ess. Only clubs that have the coin to take on the full contract.

Clubs can always spread his contract like e.g. Freo did with Brodie.

 

[Southern Sun]

So what we are saying is that we pretty much give Rankine away to dump Bowes contract

It would be done separately so it didn't look so bad. Something like rankine-5, bowes and 7 for a second rounder. Seems crazy but surely there's something at the end of this to get us excited about.

 

[Sunny_]

I don't mind this - it's just a reflection of how the club values draft capital versus how it values salary cap room for future extensions and acquisitions.

In this case, we value the relief of Bowes' back ended salary plus the salary of whatever pick #7 demands more than the players themselves.

This is keeping in mind that we get pick #5 for Rankine, so we'll still have a presence still in the top #5 of the draft.

Like I said, I don't mind it. We don't need more picks, we need salary cap room to fix mistakes. It's just an interesting way of viewing draft capital and the value thereof.

EDIT: FWIW, I'd still be expecting a future second or something back, or even a lesser first round. Just something not as salary-heavy as the pick #7 player.

 

[Jirik13]

bowes and 7 for a second rounder

I still think it got to be 1st rounder back. But who knows.

 

[OB11]

Given our ability to attract A graders via trade and free agency in our history, giving away a potential 200 game player to clean up the messes of the past, and then not attract an A Grader is a false economy.

 

[Scotty_222]

I don't mind this - it's just a reflection of how the club values draft capital versus how it values salary cap room for future extensions and acquisitions.

In this case, we value the relief of Bowes' back ended salary plus the salary of whatever pick #7 demands more than the players themselves.

This is keeping in mind that we get pick #5 for Rankine, so we'll still have a presence still in the top #5 of the draft.

Like I said, I don't mind it. We don't need more picks, we need salary cap room to fix mistakes. It's just an interesting way of viewing draft capital and the value thereof.

EDIT: FWIW, I'd still be expecting a future second or something back, or even a lesser first round. Just something not as salary-heavy as the pick #7 player.

I agree this is so much like the nba.
Picks don’t always equate to good players either.
It just so happens we’ve only dealt with high draft picks over the last 5 years.
If Bowes was a decent player but we drafted him at say pick 35 it wouldn’t be so much of an issue.

 

[sunsofanarchy]

I doubt Bowes in on 700K. Just because somebody said it here it does not mean it's correct. I can't remember but I believe he was not in that salary bracket in Herald (and who says Herald guesses are correct). Deferred salary? Possibly.

I would add Jeffrey to the list. Bloody talented. Signed 4 years contract when drafted.

Jeffery needs to deliver before we start paying him, but once he does, then yeah add him to that group.

Sunny doesn't talk alot of shit I don't think

 

[Sunny_]

Jeffery needs to deliver before we start paying him, but once he does, then yeah add him to that group.

Sunny doesn't talk alot of s**t I don't think

Sometimes I do on gameday threads.

But this is a forum, everyone is entitled to agree to disagree. That's what makes our pocket of BF great - we all at least respect each other (most of the time).

Whatever you believe to be the specifics of his money owed, it's certainly clear that Bowes' salary is something we want to get rid of for future extensiosn/acquisition reasons. And in order to make that happen, we'll pay with draft picks.

 

[Jirik13]

Jeffery needs to deliver before we start paying him, but once he does, then yeah add him to that group.

You got Andrews and Flanders in that group so Jeffrey in for me too. BTW, 2023 will be his 3rd year. I suspect min 350K coming his way.

 

[Ben Drever]

Kinda lucky we maybe dodged a bullet. Would have been typical for us to sign clarko and then this happens.

Still
Got Mark Evan’s who might end up copping a slap in the wrist

I don't mind this - it's just a reflection of how the club values draft capital versus how it values salary cap room for future extensions and acquisitions.

In this case, we value the relief of Bowes' back ended salary plus the salary of whatever pick #7 demands more than the players themselves.

This is keeping in mind that we get pick #5 for Rankine, so we'll still have a presence still in the top #5 of the draft.

Like I said, I don't mind it. We don't need more picks, we need salary cap room to fix mistakes. It's just an interesting way of viewing draft capital and the value thereof.

EDIT: FWIW, I'd still be expecting a future second or something back, or even a lesser first round. Just something not as salary-heavy as the pick #7 player.

Pick 7 could be the next Touk Miller or Noah Anderson.. Joel Selwood etc

We’re giving away access to a top player possible 200gamer to dump a contract..

That hurts

Then we’ll bring in 2-3 academy players on junk coin who are junk just to make the numbers work

 

[Supersuns]

Still
Got Mark Evan’s who might end up copping a slap in the wrist


Pick 7 could be the next Touk Miller or Noah Anderson.. Joel Selwood etc

We’re giving away access to a top player possible 200gamer to dump a contract..

That hurts

Then we’ll bring in 2-3 academy players on junk coin who are junk just to make the numbers work

Or they could be the next Mitch Thorp, Jono O'Rourke or Mark Kinnear. Draft picks get too overrated.

 

[Sunny_]

Pick 7 could be the next Touk Miller or Noah Anderson.. Joel Selwood etc

We’re giving away access to a top player possible 200gamer to dump a contract..

Totally, this is still a very valid point. Ignoring that we don't know what pick seven could turn out to be and is more likely to not be those mentioned players, or that Bowes might not be a two-hundred gamer at our club, he's still an Academy product and a local, so it hurts. Ideally you'd want to keep him, and you'd have thought, given he's a local, we wouldn't have had to offer him a lot of money for that extension in the first place. But the club did. So that sucks.

But still, I'd rather do this proposed deal than keep him + pick #7 and then be unable to afford Anderson's extension next year (for example), have to trade Noah out, get more picks in and continue the cycle that GWS has shown doesn't work. At some point we've got to be ruthless to stop the cycle, and it looks like we're trying that now.

Leans into why I'm also happy we didn't budge and up our offer on Rankine. At some point we just need to build sustainably. Or at least give it a shot.

 

[sunsofanarchy]

Big d*ck energy from the suns, we know we've got the talent, we're shedding the fat and building a dynasty.

not a fat joke.

 

[DCSuns]

I wonder, if Suns are able to shed enough money do they throw a little bit more in front of Rankine. Watching him backflip on the Crows after all their posturing would be a laugh.

Also, thoughts on Jayden Hunt

5

Jayden Hunt

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.3

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.7

2star

T

2.3

4star

MG

78.7

1star

D

5.3

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.0

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

2.3

3star

MG

78.7

1star

D

5.3

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.7

2star

T

2.3

4star

MG

78.7

2star

as a role player. Fringe best 22 in a successful finals team, would crave more opportunity and could play HB/wing filling a hole for us.

 

[Sun Stormer]

Olly Holland's 11 disposals in first quarter. Vic Metro vs Vic Country. Some good talent running around.

 

[GC2015]

Olly Holland's 11 disposals in first quarter. Vic Metro vs Vic Country. Some good talent running around.

Looking very good! Wouldn't mind us using pick 5/7 on him.

 

[sydney_gws]

Would be us or Ess. Only clubs that have the coin to take on the full contract.

Surely Hawthorn would do
Bowes,25,31 for Hawthorn's 2023r2.
That is a great deal, no need to include pick 7.

 

[Billy ray]

This trade and draft period is dare i say it, a mini GF

 

[RowellAnderson12]

Looking very good! Wouldn't mind us using pick 5/7 on him.

Fits the need on our list.

Harley Reid ….. perfect for our list

How do we get norths future first