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Game Day 2023 AFL Draft Live discussion Rd1, 2-4 and Rookie Draft
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That's great. I assume they he is a Cats fan? Or perhaps the family is being out Warnambool way.
The most interesting collection of players picked by Geel ( through neccesity ) in many a year
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Would've liked a shiny new outside mid with a bit of size - those 185-190cm types... But maybe they think Mannagh can do that job also from this draft haul.
Otherwise we did cover the bases with different types in this draft...
Otherwise we did cover the bases with different types in this draft...
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Agree. Wasn't sold on COS but the other picks are amazing.
Hard to say if we have recruited a superstar from this haul, but more a bits and bobs sort of draft haul that we can turn into good role players either soon (COS and Mannagh, and maybe Humphries) or in the medium term (the rest).
COS has a good tank, and knows definitely how to mark at the pointy end... He is top tier as a marking threat, and that's half the battle for a key position player.
Thoughts on this, we move Miers to a wing to play his High Half Forward role from the wing and move Mannagh into the forward line to keep our pace down there.
Holmes on one wing, Gryan on the other. That way Gryan can just focus on his two way running game without the pressure to score while Mannagh can play as the other pressure and link up forward with Close and Stengle.
We have height down there with Hawk, Jez and potentially Neale as KPF depth. Henry and Rohan as medium talls with the Close, Stengle and Mannagh as the small pressure forwards. Dempsey as utility forward depth. There’s your 9 forwards you select between each week.
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I'd actually go the other way, I'd say all of our picks have huge boom or bust potential, with the boom being superstar status.
Easy to say because he's the highest pick, but O'Sullivan looks to have All Australian talent, and we could end up having the best two key defenders in the game in 3-5 years.
I think Mannagh has huge potential to be a really significant in for us, and Edwards is the type of player who could be the best ruckman in the game one day, but it's going to take a while.
Stevens is boom or bust, which is often the case with these players. They're either Jansen or JPK, with not a lot inbetween....but if he does work out, I think it'll be as a star - as it's the way these big bodied mids seem to turn out if it goes your way.
Humphries & Wiltshire look like they just ooze class, and feel like they'll either bust, or be another "How the hell did they find THAT guy!?" players.
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I hope you're right. I feel like we just picked him because we had no defender depth after losing Sav. But at the end of the day we needed a defender and got a decent skillfull utility ruck with that extra pick anyway.
Good day at the office, was fingers crossed for Curtin to slip down but very happy with our results. Few left of field a couple of potential rd 1 players as well through the guts which we need in terms of depth.
Sanchez Philactides are very talented players I would like to see rookie listed if possible.
Sanchez Philactides are very talented players I would like to see rookie listed if possible.
If 2 or 3 of Wellsy's class of 2023 are gems the future looks alright. Like you said, the silver lining of retirees is a bit of coin frees up to go after Smith and maybe another big fish fairly soon.
The exciting thing is with some ready mades added, the competition for spots will be truly fierce and this will also keep the experienced players on their toes. I already similarly had Clark, Dempsey and Knevitt as big chances to integrate into the best 22.
With a deep list it does present the chance to have the senior rotation plan of 2022 back in place, as long as we don't start with a growing snow ball of injuries that never lets up.
Opportunities will certainly open up after 2024 as well and it least it looks like we're trying to prepare a competitive side as much as possible for then.
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It’s impressive the things he has done to just try and have a better life.
Good on him if he makes it as an AFL footballer
His family would be proud regardless of the young man he is
The slight issue ..is all the plus 30's are probably still best 23.
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Potentially although id like us to use mannaghs pace and linebreaking ability through the wing as we are often one paced there at times.
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People saying we have no rookie spots available or are they saying list spots.
We delisted Ricardi “rookie” and gained Furphy “cat b rookie”
I’m sure that a cat b player isn’t counted
From what I can work out we have 42 currently on our list and allowed a maximum of 44
You can have between 36-38 on your primary list.
We delisted Ricardi “rookie” and gained Furphy “cat b rookie”
I’m sure that a cat b player isn’t counted
From what I can work out we have 42 currently on our list and allowed a maximum of 44
You can have between 36-38 on your primary list.
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You can have 2, I think we have 3 as Clohesy was NGA plus Mullins and Furphy, so one takes a regular rookie slot.
Furphy has been Tsap'd taking Mitch Edwards. Seems a bit pointless now unless he is miraculously ready to play from day one.
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You can have six rookies across both Cat A and Cat B. Therefore Furphy essentially took Riccardi’s rookie list spot. We only have one available list spot and it’s on the senior list.
I don't think Tuohy is best 22. People brought up Duncan's so called decline but Tuohy's effectiveness (along with Smith's) was the real slider. I'd be pushing Duncan to half back again - meaning 1.5 games of wingman (as Holmes rotates a bit through mids/bench) becomes available. That's two new spots for close to full time gigs - Dempsey and Mannagh for a bit of speed and class?
I'd much rather we rotate a veteran through the sub spot and for kids they either get a full game in the 1's or 2's. I could see Rohan, Duncan, Guthrie, Blicavs sort of players being a great high impact sub when their minutes are due to be managed. So there's a spot that we can rotate between Clark, Knevitt, Bowes type players until we settle on who demands a permanent role.
Lastly we can probably count on at least one veteran being injured (hopefully just not 4-6 like often in 2023) each week. Even if not, the management program of 2022 surely makes sense as the year progresses. This is where we may see Neale, Conway, Mullin, another recent draftee or the players previously mentioned given the chance to step up.
As I covered in another thread, in any given season you tend to get 100 plus games to dish out to non best 22 players. And most seasons 1-3 "new" best 22 appear. Sometimes from obvious places, sometimes from smokies.
Fierce competition for spots is always important to have and I think the chance for complacency next season will be minimal. Whoever gets a chance and shows something is absolutely first in line for an important best 22 role in 2025 when more spots are available.
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Yes but furphy as a cat b means clohesy has to go to the cat a list (as we now have 3 cat bs not 2)
Max list size is 44
We have 37 senior list (31 plus cos edwards mannagh stevens wiltshire and humphries)
4 cat a (dempsey murdoch hardie clohesy)
2 cat b (mullin furphy)
=43
The last list spot is technically a senior list spot that we could use in the psd but we will just pass in psd and have 5 cat a rookies instead.
We will either use the pick at the rookie draft today or more likely save it for the ssp.
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