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Take in a full seasons work and Gawn isn't ahead of Marshall, let alone English
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He has mostly been good during your losing streak (comparing him to the upper echelon of mids)But he's been phenomenal during our 8 game winning streak.
Even during our losing streak he wasn't that bad. Still had big numbers against teams like Dogs and Saints.
If he finishes in the top 8-10 of the coaches votes he'll be a smoky IMO.
But he's been phenomenal during our 8 game winning streak.
Even during our losing streak he wasn't that bad. Still had big numbers against teams like Dogs and Saints.
If he finishes in the top 8-10 of the coaches votes he'll be a smoky IMO.
Newman should be a lock.8 weeks should not get you a jumper, a smoky from your side would be Nic Newman wouldn't be completely against it, was by far and away your best in the losing streak and a high level in your winning streak.
I do laugh how most think 2 or 3 in their team should be a lock. There are currently about 40 locksNewman would be lucky to get in the squad. A lock? Don't make me laugh.
It's cute that you're trying to learn about footballNewman would be lucky to get in the squad. A lock? Don't make me laugh.
Sicily makes the squad, won't comment on the team as those positions are highly contested. Wasn't shocked on Moore though had him fractionally behind the ones that were in, but I have to say he's one of my favourite opposition players love how creative he is.
Current locks for the 22:I do laugh how most think 2 or 3 in their team should be a lock. There are currently about 40 locks
Defenders that would be ahead of him right now:It's cute that you're trying to learn about football![]()
Another curious factor is that a ruckman finishing on the coaches association leaderboard hasn't missed out since NicNat in 2015. You have to go even further to find the top vote getting ruckman missing out.
Jackson is on top right now, but there's been little talk of him.
Current locks for the 22:
Walker, Dawson, Curnow, Daicos, Greene, Sicily, Petracca, Butters, Rozee, Bont
That's half a side. The remaining 12 are up in the air.
Defenders that would be ahead of him right now:
Andrews, Weitering, Moore, Daicos, Quaynor, Stewart, Sicily, Houston, Wilkie, Sinclair. There are 10 players who are definitely ahead of him for a spot. They rarely go more than 10 defenders in the squad, and if they do they're more likely to add another key defender. As I said, would be lucky to be in the squad.
It's good to educate you about football. There are teams that wear colours that aren't navy blue.
English isn't quite a lock yet. I think he makes it but not sure he's over the line yet.11. English is a walk up start. Gawn is a chance for a second ruck spot but English is as close to a moral as you will ever see.
Do you think lack of a ex-Hawthorn guy on the recent panels is a factor?Just to clarify, I was responding to a post about Libba.
But I agree 100%. I'll actually be stunned if Duke makes the squad this year, although I'd love to see it. Thought Dylan Moore wad a squad lock last season and it didn't happen. Sicily's omission has obviously been spoken to death in this thread.
Basically, Hawthorn supporters know that it comes to the AA side, we're only ever going to be shocked in a disappointing way, not a positive one.
English isn't quite a lock yet. I think he makes it but not sure he's over the line yet.
English isn't quite a lock yet. I think he makes it but not sure he's over the line yet.
If he goes down 5 minutes in this week and any of those two and Jackson and the two you mentioned have two best one's I'd say could overtake him.Who do you think could beat him to 1st ruck? Gawn? Marshall?
(My view is that the rucks have been pretty poor this year whereas previous seasons have seen 1 and sometimes multiple rucks be in the best 5 - 10 players so I'd probably only go with 1 ruck this year - particularly as English, Marshall and Gawn have all done their best work as the sole ruck for those with the "real team" argument).
Do you think lack of a ex-Hawthorn guy on the recent panels is a factor?
If he goes down 5 minutes in this week and any of those two and Jackson and the two you mentioned have two best one's I'd say could overtake him.
I think it's closer than you think. Yes, he's the frontrunner and I think he probably makes it, but there are arguments as to why the others could make it ahead of him as well.Mate, there's only 2 games left.
He's Winx in this race against a group of cart horses.
Jackson has bigger impacts on games than any other KPP according to the coaches.The thing is a farce anyway but if Jackson gets picked the whole thing is an irretrievable sham.
If he goes down 5 minutes in this week and any of those two and Jackson and the two you mentioned have two best one's I'd say could overtake him.
He deserves to be selected on the bench ala Blicavs last yearI would hope that Jackson isn't selected first ruck to be honest. He started the season in pretty poor form and has only been first ruck since round 13 (and even then has a 6 hit out and 3 hit out game as he was again not first ruck).
He is ranked 16th for hit outs which doesn't even tell the full story as he has 349 and the leaders are in the 800's (i.e. less than half). It's similar for hitouts to advantage, where he is ranked 17th (behind Bailey Williams, Andrew Phillips, etc).
I get that he is doing plenty around the ground and is ranked lower in the "ruck stats" because he's only had half a season there but that is why I don't think he should be selected there. If he gets picked, it should be on the bench as the back up but I tink he is more in the squad territory than any chance at first ruck, regardless of the last 2 weeks.
He's well ahead of Quaynor and imo ahead of Houston as well. Remember the Blues have the best defence in the league.Current locks for the 22:
Walker, Dawson, Curnow, Daicos, Greene, Sicily, Petracca, Butters, Rozee, Bont
That's half a side. The remaining 12 are up in the air.
Defenders that would be ahead of him right now:
Andrews, Weitering, Moore, Daicos, Quaynor, Stewart, Sicily, Houston, Wilkie, Sinclair. There are 10 players who are definitely ahead of him for a spot. They rarely go more than 10 defenders in the squad, and if they do they're more likely to add another key defender. As I said, would be lucky to be in the squad.
It's good to educate you about football. There are teams that wear colours that aren't navy blue.