Analysis 2023 All Australian Team Awards Night

[Billy_01]

After seeing this post, I'd thought it would be interesting to see coaches votes versus top 8 teams, amongst top 20 vote getters:

Dawson	52
Newcombe	43
Taranto	37
Cripps	36
Bontempelli	35
Sinclair	33
Merrett	29
Anderson	29
Rozee	25
Liberatore	25
Daicos	24
Butters	24
Jackson	23
Viney	22
Houston	21
Serong	17
Gulden	15
Neale	12
Greene	10

I wonder if this changes some people's perceptions around certain players.

I fully expect Dawson to be overlooked but 10 votes clear what a machine

 

[Sub_Zero]

J Daicos should be a lock

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[Fadge]

What are people's thoughts about Dustin Martin?

Reckon he's had an underrated year.

 

[Mr Meow]

This is also the same person who had Brodie Grundy as the AA ruck after round 16.

Ouch.

 

[Mr Meow]

I fully expect Dawson to be overlooked but 10 votes clear what a machine

Dawson gets coaches votes almost every game. He'd have to be one of the most consistent midfielders in the comp this season. Top 15 for score involvements and goal assists, 5th for inside 50's - all he's lacking are goals himself. But not every AA midfielder needs to have 20 plus goals. He's a great user of the ball and a territory machine so he's a lock for me.

 

[HarryBeef]

Dawson gets coaches votes almost every game. He'd have to be one of the most consistent midfielders in the comp this season. Top 15 for score involvements and goal assists, 5th for inside 50's - all he's lacking are goals himself. But not every AA midfielder needs to have 20 plus goals. He's a great user of the ball and a territory machine so he's a lock for me.

He's a gun, agree he should be a lock.

 

[jannissary]

I fully expect Dawson to be overlooked but 10 votes clear what a machine

would be a very stiff overlooking, he's been your best sans walker this year

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

All things being equal, Larkey should be in the AA team ahead of Tex imo

 

[Noidnadroj]

Noidnadroj Langford's goals and assists tonight so far make up 100% of his sides goals, and he has been involved in 66% of their scores...in a losing side against the best team in the comp. After scoring 40% of his sides goals last week. What a player!

His contest work has been a little lacking the last 2 weeks for a 192cm forward - having watched him closer than normal he has struggled under any physical pressure… maybe it’s not a ‘thing’ so I a few of his numbers:

121st in the comp for contested marks. For a 192cm forward who has been his teams primary target most of the year no less.

Sits about 20th for contested possessions for tall (190cm+) forwards. (269th overall in comp).

He knows how to find space to get on the end of his teammates hard work, and has been a good finisher this year.

AA worthy? Not for me as any of Martin, Bolton, Daniher and Cameron (both Camerons) are ahead of him. And Curnow, Walker and Greene are locks. With at least one of Petracca/Rozee being chosen on a flank.


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[Elmer_Hauser]

His contest work has been a little lacking the last 2 weeks for a 192cm forward - having watched him closer than normal he has struggled under any physical pressure… maybe it’s not a ‘thing’ so I a few of his numbers:

121st in the comp for contested marks. For a 192cm forward who has been his teams primary target most of the year no less.

Sits about 20th for contested possessions for tall (190cm+) forwards. (269th overall in comp).

He knows how to find space to get on the end of his teammates hard work, and has been a good finisher this year.

AA worthy? Not for me as any of Martin, Bolton, Daniher and Cameron (both Camerons) are ahead of him. And Curnow, Walker and Greene are locks. With at least one of Petracca/Rozee being chosen on a flank.


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Larkey has had a phenomenonal season for a very very poor team. Deserves strong consideration for AA team (even on the bench)

 

[The 747]

What are people's thoughts about Dustin Martin?

Reckon he's had an underrated year.

Dusty suffers by comparison with himself. When he doesn't destroy the opposition people think he hasn't played well.

 

[Mr Meow]

His contest work has been a little lacking the last 2 weeks for a 192cm forward - having watched him closer than normal he has struggled under any physical pressure… maybe it’s not a ‘thing’ so I a few of his numbers:

121st in the comp for contested marks. For a 192cm forward who has been his teams primary target most of the year no less.

Sits about 20th for contested possessions for tall (190cm+) forwards. (269th overall in comp).

He knows how to find space to get on the end of his teammates hard work, and has been a good finisher this year.

AA worthy? Not for me as any of Martin, Bolton, Daniher and Cameron (both Camerons) are ahead of him. And Curnow, Walker and Greene are locks. With at least one of Petracca/Rozee being chosen on a flank.


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Forwards in sides getting belted by that much very rarely are able to do much. They've scored 8 goals in 2 weeks, 4 of them from Langford's goals/assists but it's Essendon's competitive games (let's say lower than 10 goal beltings) from which I'd be looking at. It is an unfortunate time for Essendon to serve up arguably the two worst performances of the year though so it wouldn't surprise me if on line-ball calls it swings Langford/Merrett's spots.

From your list, C.Cameron, Daniher and Bolton have solid cases. But it wouldn't surprise me to see both Petracca and Rozee on flanks (even though I'd like one to be selected as ruck rover).

 

[Mr Meow]

Dusty suffers by comparison with himself. When he doesn't destroy the opposition people think he hasn't played well.

Or people just don't think he's been one of the best 6 forwards in 2023.

 

[Mr Meow]

Larkey has had a phenomenonal season for a very very poor team. Deserves strong consideration for AA team (even on the bench)

Today's game could swing it. 5, 6 and 6 (with plenty of time left) goals/assists when North have been somewhat competitive is a great finish.

Edit: 6 goals and 2 assists for the big man now!

 

[Quinz]

No way Larkey should miss the AA team, even on the bench. Phenomenal season.

 

[adammania9]

Larkey has the most goals since Jack Riewoldt in 2010 in a side not playing finals

 

[Noidnadroj]

Larkey has had a phenomenonal season for a very very poor team. Deserves strong consideration for AA team (even on the bench)

I didn’t have Larkey in the team… if he ends with 8 or 9 today things might change.


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[Aristotle Pickett]

This is also the same person who had Brodie Grundy as the AA ruck after round 16.

No I didn't, that's total bs. Watch yourself

 

[HarryBeef]

No I didn't, that's total bs. Watch yourself

lol, I'm talking about Daniel Hoyne you absolute goober.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

lol, I'm talking about Daniel Hoyne you absolute goober.

Have you got proof of that?

 

[HarryBeef]

Have you got proof of that?

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Oh well, the stats on Martin are still there for all to see.

 

[HarryBeef]

Oh well, the stats on Martin are still there for all to see.

I'm sure they were for Grundy too

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

I'm sure they were for Grundy too

Yes he got that wrong

 

[Noidnadroj]

Forwards in sides getting belted by that much very rarely are able to do much. They've scored 8 goals in 2 weeks, 4 of them from Langford's goals/assists but it's Essendon's competitive games (let's say lower than 10 goal beltings) from which I'd be looking at. It is an unfortunate time for Essendon to serve up arguably the two worst performances of the year though so it wouldn't surprise me if on line-ball calls it swings Langford/Merrett's spots.

From your list, C.Cameron, Daniher and Bolton have solid cases. But it wouldn't surprise me to see both Petracca and Rozee on flanks (even though I'd like one to be selected as ruck rover).

That’s why I didn’t just look at 2 weeks. He’s 121st for contested marks and 269th for contested possessions (20th amongst tall forwards) across the season. He’s a 192cm receiver.

It reminds me of everyone taking up Mabior Chol last season … he kicked 40-odd goals, but they were nearly all uncontested or ‘Joe the gooses’. It just doesn’t impress me… Chol is now playing QAFL.


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