Analysis 2023 All Australian Team Awards Night

[AvantGardener]

Cripps in is silly

Cerra has had way better year. Not saying Cerra deserves to be in either tbh (def not team, but maybe squad)

Newman deserves to be in squad though.

 

[PhatBoy]

He shouldn't be near the team on form. He's been so so in plenty of games and downright awful in others. Gave away goals on Saturday night again through absolute howlers.

Will get picked though. Nothing surer.

His 2 clangers out of 30-odd touches really highlighted this.

 

[HarryBeef]

Either or not fussed had Cripps generally better but Cerra did have some very good games, just behind 2 other wingers

Cerra played inside all year

 

[killerspud]

He sets up more goals than anyone in the competition - that's his role.
Breust plays closer to goal in a team with less competition for goals so of course he'll kick more.

**** me if I'm picking aa small forward who's kicked 7 goals FOR THE WHOLE YEAR!!?!?!? Jesse Hogan kicked more goals in a single game. Anyone who who has Gryan Miers in the AA is a ****wit

 

[killerspud]

Total score involvements

Breust 108
Miers 165

A goal assist in't worth the same as a goal at lest on planet earth

 

[Mr Meow]

Finn Maginness is comfortably the best tagger in the comp. That's his role. No-one, including Hawks fans would have him in the AA squad. Playing a role isn't enough.

Tagging is a hard one to mark on stats though. If you're easily the best goal assister AND top 10 for score involvements in the league I'd argue your case as a forward for squad at least is pretty clear. Likewise if you were the top goal kicker and top 10 for SIs. I'm pretty sure this is the first time a player has met one of those criteria and not made the best 22 let alone the 44.

Having said that, Bolton, Miers and Martin weren't all going to fit the squad. I'd have dropped a back flanker and had two of these three players, not one. Redman's been the resident AA selectors car wash attendant.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Everyone is blinded by Taranto’s purple patch of 6 games or so. He’s nowhere near as good outside of that.

Was absolute shite in the Lions game

 

[Mr Meow]

A goal assist in't worth the same as a goal at lest on planet earth

You're talking out of Uranus.

 

[Mofra]

* me if I'm picking aa small forward who's kicked 7 goals FOR THE WHOLE YEAR!!?!?!? Jesse Hogan kicked more goals in a single game. Anyone who who has Gryan Miers in the AA is a *******

You're not.
You'd be picking a half-forward with the most assist and score involvements outside of the midfield.

 

[HarryBeef]

Breust Goals + Goal Assists = 53
Miers Goals + Goal Assists = 48

Geelong kick 63 more goals than Hawthorn, Miers contributed 15.7% of Geelong goals compared to Breust 21.7%, I'd say it's pretty conclusive

Reckon the other forwards in the AA team have the kicking goals part covered, wouldn't hurt to have a bloke who can kick it to them.

 

[HarryBeef]

Worpel, Taranto, Kelly, even Rowell have all been better than Cripps this year. The special treatment he gets is absolutely baffling.

Coaches don't agree

 

[Forward Press]

Oscar Allen

12

Oscar Allen

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

a bit lucky to be in the 44 imo, but not going to complain.

Otherwise a pretty solid list imo.

 

[killerspud]

Reckon the other forwards in the AA team have the kicking goals part covered, wouldn't hurt to have a bloke who can kick it to them.

Its the AA team - you pick the best in the position and if your a small forward you have to kick goals

You cats supporters crack me up

I remember in 2008 there was that BS competition between Chapman and Mooney to see who could get the most goal assists

COUNTED FOR **** ALL ON GF DAY

 

[killerspud]

You're not.
You'd be picking a half-forward with the most assist and score involvements outside of the midfield.

Fair dinkum - he pops it up in the air and Cameron and Hawkins mark it and goal because they are two of the best marking forwards in the game with a thousand goals between them that's a reflection on the marking forwards not the middleman.

 

[HarryBeef]

Its the AA team - you pick the best in the position and if your a small forward you have to kick goals

You cats supporters crack me up

I remember in 2008 there was that BS competition between Chapman and Mooney to see who could get the most goal assists

COUNTED FOR * ALL ON GF DAY

Yeah us Cats fans are full of baloney, go the mighty Catsters!

 

[Gaben]

Coaches don't agree

So you agree Daicos is the best player of the year I take it?

Also, 63>60.

 

[Trav 20]

I know. It’s inconceivable a guy averaging 24 touches, 1.3 goals and 7.7 score involvements per game in a team languishing in 13th might make the team.


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1.2

 

[Sixpence]

Yeah us Cats fans are full of baloney, go the mighty Catsters!

You can't spell CArlTon without cat!

 

[Forward Press]

Yeah us Cats fans are full of baloney, go the mighty Catsters!

 

[beerbandit]

B - Quaynor, Weitering, Sicily
HB - N Daicos (VC), Moore (C), Sinclair
C - Gulden, Butters, J Daicos
HF - Petracca, Walker, Rozee
F - Cameron, Curnow, Greene
R - English, Bontempelli, Neale
IC - Serong, Larkey, De Goey, Dawson

 

[Noidnadroj]

Miers has 7 goals and 41 assists.
Breust has 47 goals and 6 assists.

You're at selection committee picking players in the forward line. You're telling me you'd pick Miers? Is that you, Bevo?

There’s way more to it than just goals and goal assists. Seriously, Francis Evans kicked 3-goals for Port yesterday… was he better than Martin with a goal and a goal assist? Evans had 4 x SI. Martin had 12. But on your metrics Evans was better ….. really?

Miers v Breust:

Disposals: 19 v 10.7
Inside 50’s: 4.3 v 1.8
Clearances : 1.8 v 0.6
SI’s: 7.2 v 5.1

I’m not saying Breust was a howler of a squad selection, but on balance of all factors Miers had better claims than Breust IMO. It’s an opinion business and there’s no right or wrong. FWIW I didn’t think either of them would make the squad.


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[Mr Meow]

B - Quaynor, Weitering, Sicily
HB - N Daicos, Moore, Sinclair
C - Gulden, Butters, J Daicos
HF - Petracca, Walker, Rozee
F - Cameron, Curnow, Greene
R - English, Bontempelli, Neale
IC - Serong, Larkey, De Goey, Dawson

Ignore the 44 squad cap, surely there's room for a couple more Pies.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Cripps???? Is this serious?

Was playing through injury most of the year. When he was healthy he was dominant.

 

[Juddernaut08]

B: Andrews, Weitering, Dawson
HB: N.Daicos, Sicily, Sinclair
W: Butters, Liberatore, Rozzee
HF: Greene, Walker, Petracca
FF: C.Cameron, Curnow, Langford
R: English, Bontempelli, Anderson
INT: Marshall, Quaynor, Cripps, Blakey

 

[MadMaxx]

Luke Bruest plays a different position and is not in the squad, so you post and sly dig at the end are both bizarre

Err, Breust is in the squad?