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List Mgmt. 2023 Draft Thread - Part I

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Taking local kids is second to actually taking the best available kid. It's great to have kids local to the area but what's most important is taking a kid with a higher projected ceiling

Wilson at the moment is a better prospect than Murphy, who failed at the combine. Ollies numbers were not great. He's still there for us to take him tonight, and I suspect we will.

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I don’t see it with Wilson at all, yes he’s very athletic but I’d have taken Edwards and Demattia in front of him. Collard is an oh Bobby Hill smashed it in the grand final let’s get one, seriously what a pick.
 

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Taking local kids is second to actually taking the best available kid. It's great to have kids local to the area but what's most important is taking a kid with a higher projected ceiling

Wilson at the moment is a better prospect than Murphy, who failed at the combine. Ollies numbers were not great. He's still there for us to take him tonight, and I suspect we will.

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Charlie Edwards is a half back flanker who can pinch hit in the middle, where as Darcy Wilson is a true fast mid with inside/outside potential. Also we don’t need backs as much as true mids + small forward. Next pick (33) should be another mid (Cooper Simpson or George Stevens), then a key back.
 
Im really happy with our first round especially considering where the picks we had were.

Wilson looks really solid and no question on the athleticism.

Collard is probably a touch speculative (most small forwards are) but also exciting enough to be worth the punt.

I think North made out like bandits but thats expected with 5 picks in the first round, theyll have a fire sale on mids in the next few years so hopefully we can just pick up someone that wants out at that point.

Dogs also seem to have done really well from round 1.

If Wilson had gone at pick 10 no-one would have blinked, was great that he was there at 18, and we got paid a 2nd round pick for choosing him over Leake.
 
I don’t see it with Wilson at all, yes he’s very athletic but I’d have taken Edwards and Demattia in front of him. Collard is an oh Bobby Hill smashed it in the grand final let’s get one, seriously what a pick.
I didn’t want Collard either but think you’re overreacting a tad. Both widely stated as best available, Wilson said by some to be an absolute steal.
 
Taking local kids is second to actually taking the best available kid. It's great to have kids local to the area but what's most important is taking a kid with a higher projected ceiling

Wilson at the moment is a better prospect than Murphy, who failed at the combine. Ollies numbers were not great. He's still there for us to take him tonight, and I suspect we will.

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Is the knock on Murphy his lack of speed?
 
I didn’t want Collard either but think you’re overreacting a tad. Both widely stated as best available, Wilson said by some to be an absolute steal.
In the “Live draft” - Wilson had 2 top 10 suitors who genuinely considered him.

Geelong at 7 and Adelaide at 10.

DeMattias earliest suitor was us at 13.

We took the better talent
 

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I don’t see it with Wilson at all, yes he’s very athletic but I’d have taken Edwards and Demattia in front of him. Collard is an oh Bobby Hill smashed it in the grand final let’s get one, seriously what a pick.
Give them a go mate, I'm sure they will be all ok , they have attributes that we need and lack
 
You'd think if Collard goes home we get what we gave to get Henry. F2. Personally players tend to stay if the environment is good have a good coaching staff and, more importantly you are winning games.

Saints very quietly moved up the board to get pick 27 which is now 33 by amalgamating a 3rdp and a f3rdp.
As well as....in effect by swapping with GWS we got Henry for free by replacing our f2rdp we traded out.

Carlton with Camporele son will be interested in both our f3rdp for pick 34 which is a stretch. Or swap one with GCS 50 or GWS at 44 or a very cheaky Bris at 42 who may want something in the bank for next year.

I would have a swing at George Stevens if he was available later, Jobe Watson was big lumbering and slow in the beginning and he went okay.

We always complain about turning athletes into possession pigs....no reason it cannot go the other way....if he turns into a bigger version of Dunstan with better disposal I am not complaining.


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George Stevens will be a better version of dunstan, has better kicking and a much bigger frame. Hoping for him or Cooper Simpson at pick #33.
 
200cm with great ariel ability and can kick. Only moved to defence this year so room to grow one-on-one and reckon he could thrive working with Enright who seems to get the most out of every defender.



He looks good ball in hand.

But one on one he looks average at best. Slow in the contest.
Ball keeps going over his head and he has no impact.





I feel like there are some huge red flags when kids go from top 10… top 15 and now we are talking in the 30s on draft night in the space of a month.
 
I don’t see it with Wilson at all, yes he’s very athletic but I’d have taken Edwards and Demattia in front of him. Collard is an oh Bobby Hill smashed it in the grand final let’s get one, seriously what a pick.
You are better than this Yawkey. Fair enough thats your opinion on Wilson, but do you really think, the recruiters went for Collard because of Bobby Hill? that makes you sound like a Facebook nuffie which you are not.
 

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hi,
Can someone explain what we did to move up the draft or for next year, i am now confused. thanks
We had pick 40 this year and 3 third rounders next year.

We used one of those third rounders to trade to Melbourne for pick 42

We then packaged our pick 40 and that newly acquired pick 42 for gold coasts pick 27


GWS then offered us a future second round pick to swap our pick 17 with their pick 18. To draft Leake.
 
What happened to leathlean‘s picking local kids. Overlooked Edwards to take Wilson and reached for a want away wafl thirds player when Roberts would have been a great choice. I’m sorry but I’m not impressed at all nor am I a fan of dow or Henry, hope I’m proven wrong but I doubt it.

We were nether smashing the trade period or the draft with what we had to work with but I’m very disappointed with what we’ve done.

If we limit our national drafting to a strip of land beside Port Phillip Bay, we'd heading straight to loserville.
 
I don’t see it with Wilson at all, yes he’s very athletic but I’d have taken Edwards and Demattia in front of him. Collard is an oh Bobby Hill smashed it in the grand final let’s get one, seriously what a pick.

Jeez you're flat. As flat as Moorabbin Ghost was every time I mentioned Collard haha. In the days prior to the draft he gave the ol' 'thumbs down' to everything related to him.

Anyway, entitled to your opinion on the picks of course, but hey they're Sainters now so let's get around em and not bash them before they've even played a game for us.

I reckon Wilson was a great get, best talent available, addresses an area of need for us, and we get a pick back effectively.
Collard is the X factor. Will take time though clearly.
 
He looks good ball in hand.

But one on one he looks average at best. Slow in the contest.
Ball keeps going over his head and he has no impact.





I feel like there are some huge red flags when kids go from top 10… top 15 and now we are talking in the 30s on draft night in the space of a month.

Ollie Murphy just doesn’t impact the contest enough for a key back.. has little presence, looks more like a tall wing man than key defender.. do not want.
 
Ollie Murphy just doesn’t impact the contest enough for a key back.. has little presence, looks more like a tall wing man than key defender.. do not want.
Look any kid we take from here is probably 2 years of development away from playing.

But I would rather go with Schoemakers because he has atleast one ELITE attribute in his kicking
 

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