List Mgmt. 2023 Draft Thread - Part I

[gringo2011]

For the more athletic endeavours, and I like to take the piddle from time to time

Fair enough. I guess the Shane Warne Bolles, mullet and zinc look is just coming into fashion over there. They'd look ace hanging out the window of your VK commodore.

 

[Sippa]

Reckon we take a key back with one of our first 2 picks .. haven’t really developed a young genuine full back into a player for a long time I reckon we grab one to develop with van es and hope one of them makes it

 

[ScrappyDo]

Reckon we take a key back with one of our first 2 picks .. haven’t really developed a young genuine full back into a player for a long time I reckon we grab one to develop with van es and hope one of them makes it

They've said as much not long ago.
Ollie Murphy and Will McCabe are about the only one's. Murphy every chance with our 1st pick.

 

[austinnn]

He looks like an 1980s futuristic alien looking for someone to probe. WTF are you wearing those around in public for. I thought you were a finely dressed man.

Koltyn Tholstrup and Jean-Luc Velissavis as Saints 2030. The exciting heroes from the future up against the mighty Shadeau Brain and nasty henchman Dayne Zorko. The latest Marvel release.

 

[Mighty_sainter]

They've said as much not long ago.
Ollie Murphy and Will McCabe are about the only one's. Murphy every chance with our 1st pick.

McCabe hawthorn F/S if Leake/Windsor/Wilson all gone wel have a look at him.

 

[Holy Hunter Clark]

McCabe hawthorn F/S if Leake/Windsor/Wilson all gone wel have a look at him.

If Windsor and Wilson are all gone I'd love to pick up Murphy, then grab Edwards at our 2nd pick.

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[ScrappyDo]

McCabe hawthorn F/S if Leake/Windsor/Wilson all gone wel have a look at him.

Well that seals it then.
Hawks have positioned themselves perfectly, McCabe is off the board.
Ollie Murphy or bust.

 

[goodie23]

I would like to see us get in on some bidding action this year. Read and Croft if they haven't been bid on by our first, maybe McCabe with our second

 

[Half Back Pocket]

this fella looks good, why isn't he in first round predictions?

Rozee vibes

 

[SteeleSaints]

“Incredibly disrespectful”: Draft expert hits back at clubs on class of 2023

“I prefer to go glass half-full.”

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[ScrappyDo]

A late season move to midfield after playing a lot off HBF and ridiculous combine testing. Apparently very quick but also elite endurance. He looks great in highlights and apparently a few clubs have started to rate him high. He's come from nowhere but now sitting around mid 20s in ratings.

About bang on for our second pick I'd say.
Tiz a bloody shame we couldn't work something to get a pick for Sanders and go for a Dragons trifecta.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

A late season move to midfield after playing a lot off HBF and ridiculous combine testing. Apparently very quick but also elite endurance. He looks great in highlights and apparently a few clubs have started to rate him high. He's come from nowhere but now sitting around mid 20s in ratings.

Perfect for us. Just hope he doesn’t fall between picks.

 

[gringo2011]

Rozee vibes

The way he moves is super attractive. I'd definitely be keen on having ago at him if he comes up around our pick. The problem is I have more players that I like than picks.

 

[SteeleSaints]

The way he moves is super attractive. I'd definitely be keen on having ago at him if he comes up around our pick. The problem is I have more players that I like than picks.

Its the same every year - if we could select who we like each year we would be the greatest recruiting managers of all time. I dont think Charlie will last to our 2nd pick so if we cant get Wilson or Windsor I would be jumping on Edwards with our 1st. For me midfielders are our biggest list need, but I wouldnt be surprised to see us take a key defender and even a young ruckman if one we rate slides to our 3rd or even 4th pick.

I can see why the club wanted more 1st round picks but I believe they missed a trick when Gold Coast were off loading all the picks they received in pick swaps. I would have traded up the draft order to gain a pick to take one of Wilson or Windsor.

2024 is reported as being a very strong midfielders draft so PERHAPS we are taking a longer term list management build and are looking to get the elite midfielders next year. Midfield madness: 2024's on-ball bonanza

 

[CursingFijian]

Zero Hanger's first round including academy picks

1. West Coast - Harley Reid
2. Gold Coast - Jed Walter (matched)
3. North Melbourne - Zane Duursma
4. North Melbourne - Colby McKercher
5. Hawthorn - Dan Curtin
6. Gold Coast - Ethan Read (matched)
7. Western Bulldogs - Nick Watson
8. Melbourne - Ryley Sanders
9. GWS - Nate Caddy
10. Geelong - Connor O'Sullivan
11. Gold Coast - Jake Rogers (matched)
12. Western Bulldogs - Jordan Croft (matched)
13. Essendon - Ollie Murphy
14. Adelaide - Darcy Wilson
15. Melbourne - Caleb Windsor
16. Sydney - James Leake
17. St Kilda - Koltyn Tholstrup
18. Adelaide - Riley Hardeman
19. Hawthorn - Will McCabe (matched)
20. North Melbourne - Lance Collard
21. GWS - Koen Sanchez
22. North Melbourne - Archer Reid
23. North Melbourne - Archie Roberts
24. Collingwood - Harry DeMattia
25. Adelaide - Will Green
26. St Kilda - Logan Morris
27. Carlton - Mitch Edwards

2023 AFL Mock Draft: Picks 1-27 (first edition)

The draft is a month away! Here's how the first round could unfold👇

www.zerohanger.com

 

[SteeleSaints]

Zero Hanger's first round including academy picks

1. West Coast - Harley Reid
2. Gold Coast - Jed Walter (matched)
3. North Melbourne - Zane Duursma
4. North Melbourne - Colby McKercher
5. Hawthorn - Dan Curtin
6. Gold Coast - Ethan Read (matched)
7. Western Bulldogs - Nick Watson
8. Melbourne - Ryley Sanders
9. GWS - Nate Caddy
10. Geelong - Connor O'Sullivan
11. Gold Coast - Jake Rogers (matched)
12. Western Bulldogs - Jordan Croft (matched)
13. Essendon - Ollie Murphy
14. Adelaide - Darcy Wilson
15. Melbourne - Caleb Windsor
16. Sydney - James Leake
17. St Kilda - Koltyn Tholstrup
18. Adelaide - Riley Hardeman
19. Hawthorn - Will McCabe (matched)
20. North Melbourne - Lance Collard
21. GWS - Koen Sanchez
22. North Melbourne - Archer Reid
23. North Melbourne - Archie Roberts
24. Collingwood - Harry DeMattia
25. Adelaide - Will Green
26. St Kilda - Logan Morris
27. Carlton - Mitch Edwards

2023 AFL Mock Draft: Picks 1-27 (first edition)

The draft is a month away! Here's how the first round could unfold👇

www.zerohanger.com

I dont rate Tholstrup he is a low production HFF who is not what we need. Morris is an undersized 3rd tall forward who again is not a list need.

Collard might be an option for our 1st or 2nd pick if we are looking for a small forward - he has speed to burn and would be a good replacement for Gresham. Being from WA he would fit in well with Hill and now Henry. DeMattia is a quick midfielder who would come into calculations also at our 2nd pick.

Its interesting that they have so many WA kids rated in the first round, I dont believe it will pan out in that way. Having watched a few WAFL under 18 games the standard it is well below the Coates League, but they do have a few stand out kids but for me Tholstrup is not one of them.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Its the same every year - if we could select who we like each year we would be the greatest recruiting managers of all time. I dont think Charlie will last to our 2nd pick so if we cant get Wilson or Windsor I would be jumping on Edwards with our 1st. For me midfielders are our biggest list need, but I wouldnt be surprised to see us take a key defender and even a young ruckman if one we rate slides to our 3rd or even 4th pick.

I can see why the club wanted more 1st round picks but I believe they missed a trick when Gold Coast were off loading all the picks they received in pick swaps. I would have traded up the draft order to gain a pick to take one of Wilson or Windsor.

2024 is reported as being a very strong midfielders draft so PERHAPS we are taking a longer term list management build and are looking to get the elite midfielders next year. Midfield madness: 2024's on-ball bonanza

More first round draft picks reminds me of the old Pelican strategy.
His tactics were fine, except they didn't read those drafts well. Late first round draft picks in a poor draft ( 2012) don't achieve much.

The following year was odd, lots of the early picks , ( Billings, Aish, Scharenberg , Kolishjak....whatever , Freeman ) were duds, but it was a very deep draft with a lot of late talent.
Cripps, Zac Jones, Gardiner, Matt Crouch, Zach Merrett, George Hewett, Allir, Fantasia, Sicily, Hunt, Ceglar , Amon.
So of course we'd traded out our later picks. ( Billy Longer and Bruce ). ( Our poor drafting didn't help ,or was Acres good drafting, Touk Miller and Zach Merrett would have been nice. )?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I dont rate Tholstrup he is a low production HFF who is not what we need. Morris is an undersized 3rd tall forward who again is not a list need.

Collard might be an option for our 1st or 2nd pick if we are looking for a small forward - he has speed to burn and would be a good replacement for Gresham. Being from WA he would fit in well with Hill and now Henry. DeMattia is a quick midfielder who would come into calculations also at our 2nd pick.

Its interesting that they have so many WA kids rated in the first round, I dont believe it will pan out in that way. Having watched a few WAFL under 18 games the standard it is well below the Coates League, but they do have a few stand out kids but for me Tholstrup is not one of them.

I wish you could get warts and all reviews.
Tholstrup sounds amazing here.

Koltyn Tholstrup Draft Profile

A draft prospect with 'Kolt' hero potential, Koltyn Tholstrup offers unique flair and plenty of energy as a high half-forward.

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Is he really low production? He averaged 18 disposals in 2023.
He scored highly in agility and endurance at the combine, which means he could play deep like Membrey does.

I guess it depends how the coaches/list management value our existing undersized talls, and whether they think that Pou is a long term mid.

 

[dougiemac]

Do we really need more outside midfielders Personally I'd prefer a real bull

Too much time spent on Grindr.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Its the same every year - if we could select who we like each year we would be the greatest recruiting managers of all time. I dont think Charlie will last to our 2nd pick so if we cant get Wilson or Windsor I would be jumping on Edwards with our 1st. For me midfielders are our biggest list need, but I wouldnt be surprised to see us take a key defender and even a young ruckman if one we rate slides to our 3rd or even 4th pick.

I can see why the club wanted more 1st round picks but I believe they missed a trick when Gold Coast were off loading all the picks they received in pick swaps. I would have traded up the draft order to gain a pick to take one of Wilson or Windsor.

2024 is reported as being a very strong midfielders draft so PERHAPS we are taking a longer term list management build and are looking to get the elite midfielders next year. Midfield madness: 2024's on-ball bonanza

I suspect our future 1st will be on the table as long as Sanders is available.
It would be a difficult trade as we need a future 2nd but lets say its GWS :

In: 7, 16, F2nd
Out: 13, 21, F1st, 2x F3rd

I can't see that getting it done either.
I think we're stuck.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Zero Hanger's first round including academy picks

1. West Coast - Harley Reid
2. Gold Coast - Jed Walter (matched)
3. North Melbourne - Zane Duursma
4. North Melbourne - Colby McKercher
5. Hawthorn - Dan Curtin
6. Gold Coast - Ethan Read (matched)
7. Western Bulldogs - Nick Watson
8. Melbourne - Ryley Sanders
9. GWS - Nate Caddy
10. Geelong - Connor O'Sullivan
11. Gold Coast - Jake Rogers (matched)
12. Western Bulldogs - Jordan Croft (matched)
13. Essendon - Ollie Murphy
14. Adelaide - Darcy Wilson
15. Melbourne - Caleb Windsor
16. Sydney - James Leake
17. St Kilda - Koltyn Tholstrup
18. Adelaide - Riley Hardeman
19. Hawthorn - Will McCabe (matched)
20. North Melbourne - Lance Collard
21. GWS - Koen Sanchez
22. North Melbourne - Archer Reid
23. North Melbourne - Archie Roberts
24. Collingwood - Harry DeMattia
25. Adelaide - Will Green
26. St Kilda - Logan Morris
27. Carlton - Mitch Edwards

2023 AFL Mock Draft: Picks 1-27 (first edition)

The draft is a month away! Here's how the first round could unfold👇

www.zerohanger.com

Yuck!

 

[bird_man]

I dont rate Tholstrup he is a low production HFF who is not what we need. Morris is an undersized 3rd tall forward who again is not a list need.

Collard might be an option for our 1st or 2nd pick if we are looking for a small forward - he has speed to burn and would be a good replacement for Gresham. Being from WA he would fit in well with Hill and now Henry. DeMattia is a quick midfielder who would come into calculations also at our 2nd pick.

Its interesting that they have so many WA kids rated in the first round, I dont believe it will pan out in that way. Having watched a few WAFL under 18 games the standard it is well below the Coates League, but they do have a few stand out kids but for me Tholstrup is not one of them.

Suggesting he is low production is extremely harsh considering he played most of the year at WAFL senior level. Very different than running around in the colts.

I'd imagine if he did he probably spends more time in the midfield. He was pretty handy in the champs after coming back from injury.

 

[Barrels]

Reckon we take a key back with one of our first 2 picks .. haven’t really developed a young genuine full back into a player for a long time I reckon we grab one to develop with van es and hope one of them makes it

Van Es WILL be our full back for the next decade plus.

Bookmark it.

Kid is an absolute animal.

It’s about finding him a CHB partner going forward.

 

[Yawkey way]

Zero Hanger's first round including academy picks

1. West Coast - Harley Reid
2. Gold Coast - Jed Walter (matched)
3. North Melbourne - Zane Duursma
4. North Melbourne - Colby McKercher
5. Hawthorn - Dan Curtin
6. Gold Coast - Ethan Read (matched)
7. Western Bulldogs - Nick Watson
8. Melbourne - Ryley Sanders
9. GWS - Nate Caddy
10. Geelong - Connor O'Sullivan
11. Gold Coast - Jake Rogers (matched)
12. Western Bulldogs - Jordan Croft (matched)
13. Essendon - Ollie Murphy
14. Adelaide - Darcy Wilson
15. Melbourne - Caleb Windsor
16. Sydney - James Leake
17. St Kilda - Koltyn Tholstrup
18. Adelaide - Riley Hardeman
19. Hawthorn - Will McCabe (matched)
20. North Melbourne - Lance Collard
21. GWS - Koen Sanchez
22. North Melbourne - Archer Reid
23. North Melbourne - Archie Roberts
24. Collingwood - Harry DeMattia
25. Adelaide - Will Green
26. St Kilda - Logan Morris
27. Carlton - Mitch Edwards

2023 AFL Mock Draft: Picks 1-27 (first edition)

The draft is a month away! Here's how the first round could unfold👇

www.zerohanger.com

That makes zero sense for us.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Suggesting he is low production is extremely harsh considering he played most of the year at WAFL senior level. Very different than running around in the colts.

I'd imagine if he did he probably spends more time in the midfield. He was pretty handy in the champs after coming back from injury.

I just re-watched his highlights and have to admit I was too harsh on him. Particularly given his National Combine results when he did well in the 2km, speed and agility testing. Add that to his agressive pressure game and he is a much better option than I initially gave him credit for. I did watch all the championship games when he didnt stand out at the time, I was also surprised to read he was 188cms tall. He is one of those individuals with short arms which gives the impression he is shorter than he actually is, having said that he is quite good as an over head mark also. I hate to say it but he reminds me a bit of Budda Hocking, the way he plays and with the locks of hair.

He averaged 18 possessions in the 3 x U18 games with not a lot of midfield minutes, so there is room that he becomes a genuine midfielder. I also agree that the Senior WAFL games will hold him in good stead, particularly holding his position in Subiaco's 2 x finals games.