List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Need to take 2 tall defenders imo with now both Mccartins worries

I'd go one tall defender (Phillips) and one tall ruck / forward type (Buller) then back these two selections up with more at season's end. Should be able to stick Reid and Paddy on long term injury list.

 

[Punts]

Will it make it though for Reid to get a contract now?

As you can’t have 3 Talls on the list that are massive risk factors

 

[dosser]

Will it make it though for Reid to get a contract now?

As you can’t have 3 Talls on the list that are massive risk factors

Pretty sure Reid was on a 1 year deal this year for the very reason of what has panned out. I think that may be his last.

 

[Punts]

Pretty sure Reid was on a 1 year deal this year for the very reason of what has panned out. I think that may be his last.

Yer I meant will it now affect his chance next year

 

[ashep]

The problem with Reid is that out of the trio of himself, Amartey and McClean, he was - by far - the strongest performer last year and is much more versatile, particularly down back. His back half of the season was outstanding.

If the medical staff reckon he's got a year or two left, I'd rather keep him but it's certainly a risk.

 

[Punts]

That Buller looks as though he could play a similar role to Reid

Also has anyone seen him play defence?

 

[WillHayward]

Yer I meant will it now affect his chance next year

Surely his chances are very low. Would be around 10%.

Unless of course we only get more skinny dwarves in the mid season draft, trade period, national and rookie drafts..

Which if course is possible on current trend....

 

[WillHayward]

It's hard to compare - I think we think of those players at their peak but half our midfield is yet to reach their peak. I'm not sure which season you're comparing that midfield. Given that it contains ROK can't be later than 2014. Parker is the equivalent of ROK these days. Errol is the new Hanners (and even better if you ask me, I loved Hanners but I LOVE Errol). Chad and Rowy and Mills are less experienced than Macca, Kizza and JPK but could well be as good as them by the time they finish their careers (although I'll be pleasantly surprised if any of them are as good as JPK).

I feel warm and fuzzy looking back on the halcyon days but I don't have a problem with our midfield except that they're still lack some maturity and experience.

I think we maybe forget how good JPK really was.
The man was an absolute beast and it took 3 blokes to tackle him which left two men free. Dude was an athletic monster.

My current concern is we are easy to play against. I doubt opposition players lose any sleep when they see us in the fixture.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

That Buller looks as though he could play a similar role to Reid

Also has anyone seen him play defence?

I’ve seen him play one WAFL game. He spent most of the game forward, with a few stints in the ruck - so no, haven’t seen him in defence.

It’ll be interesting to see if West Coast select him. Apparently he’s done a medical with them.

 

[anotherletdown]

I’ve seen him play one WAFL game. He spent most of the game forward, with a few stints in the ruck - so no, haven’t seen him in defence.

It’ll be interesting to see if West Coast select him. Apparently he’s done a medical with them.

No doubt in my mind he goes to WC. We're wasting our time discussing him

 

[WillHayward]

I’ve seen him play one WAFL game. He spent most of the game forward, with a few stints in the ruck - so no, haven’t seen him in defence.

It’ll be interesting to see if West Coast select him. Apparently he’s done a medical with them.

West Coast medical would be unusual.

If you are injured you get 10/10.

"Welcome aboard son you will fit right in"

 

[Ticky009]

Academies assessment for the upcoming draft

 

[Swans22]

The problem with Reid is that out of the trio of himself, Amartey and McClean, he was - by far - the strongest performer last year and is much more versatile, particularly down back. His back half of the season was outstanding.

If the medical staff reckon he's got a year or two left, I'd rather keep him but it's certainly a risk.

Totally agree with his performance last year. He was outstanding. I guess it depends on what other options we have. I would rather us delist him than sacrifice a younger player or not recruit a KPF. But if those options arent there - we keep him understanding the risks with his soft tissue history. My hope is that one or 2 of McLean, Amartey or Logan show enough this year (when all back on the park) to give us confidence that we don't need to rely on Reid coming back.

 

[Punts]

Any long term injury news?

 

[Swans22]

Academies assessment for the upcoming draft

Are any of these Swans academy players likely to be low picks? Ie Are we seeing any future Mills, Blakey, Gulden, Heeney types coming through? Given the strenghtening of the junior comps in Sydney - theoretically we should see more quality come through Sydney over the years to come.

 

[tombomb]

Chad Wingard

20

Chad Wingard

Age

31

Ht

183cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.3

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

1.5

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.2

3star

is going to get traded for sfa at the end of the year.

Like Mitchell, O'Meara, and (to a lesser extent) Gunston was.

 

[Dan87]

Chad Wingard is going to get traded for sfa at the end of the year.

Like Mitchell, O'Meara, and (to a lesser extent) Gunston was.

If the price is right... and he's motivated

May be a spot for him

 

[Punts]

Almost get him for free or a 4th rounder

Would he get a game though

 

[Dan87]

Almost get him for free or a 4th rounder

Would he get a game though

He gets Clarke's forward spot and maybe kicks 40 in a fever dream

Full time forward

 

[Punts]

He gets Clarke's forward spot and maybe kicks 40 in a fever dream

Full time forward

True hopeful

 

[Dan87]

An in form Wingard takes the pressure off a few

Lets Heeney play more mid

 

[Deccas]

Academies assessment for the upcoming draft

Cleary sounds like exactly what our midfield needs. Probably a few years away of course but sounds like a solid citizen and has a game that can be an important cog.

 

[Ticky009]

Are any of these Swans academy players likely to be low picks? Ie Are we seeing any future Mills, Blakey, Gulden, Heeney types coming through? Given the strengthening of the junior comps in Sydney - theoretically we should see more quality come through Sydney over the years to come.

None of them will be first round selections. Mid 20's and beyond is where our academy lads will be landing this year. And we're still criminally short of high standard talls at Swans academy.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Chad Wingard is going to get traded for sfa at the end of the year.

Like Mitchell, O'Meara, and (to a lesser extent) Gunston was.

Wow there is a name i completely forgot was still on a AFL list what happened to him?

Broke out in 2014-2015 never really hit the same heights again

 

[Millky95]

Dawson would be a top 10 player in the league right now and he'd be our best player by a mile

Let's be real. If he was on our list this year he would be injured. Like the rest of our important structural players