List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Dan87]

Oliver's contract is an absolute anchor here

Melbourne shopping him and that contract...

I still think Melbourne are really after a forward

Everyone better buckle up

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Oliver's contract is an absolute anchor here

Melbourne shopping him and that contract...

I still think Melbourne are really after a forward

Everyone better buckle up

No different from Grundy contract at the Pies.

 

[rustycrate]

Oliver's contract is an absolute anchor here

Melbourne shopping him and that contract...

I still think Melbourne are really after a forward

Everyone better buckle up

Our pick 122 is too much for a $1m and 7 year sookie, lazy, talented, decorated, team unbalancer on it own. I would want at least half his salary paid too and even then I think we need future picks as well.

 

[Dan87]

No different from Grundy contract at the Pies.

Yeah it's pretty different

 

[ScrewInStuds]

You saw through me. I believe there is less than 1% chance that Clarry or Oliver will be at the Swans next year. Beatson is not that stupid. Talent alone is not enough. Why is Melbourne fielding offers. Vultures are circling because the smell of demise is on the rise. The Swans don't like distractions because it causes problems in the club if not this year than next year. Team chemistry is very important and Melbourne's actions imply that he is having an adverse affect on the team.
So good luck and high hopes to you all and happy dreams for the next few weeks thinking Clarry will be a Swan.
But Beatson knows it will end in a nightmare. At some stage.

OK that's cool. The Heat missed out on Dame Lillard so I'm just going to soak in this hot tub of dreams for a couple more weeks. Catch you on the other side

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Yeah it's pretty different

Sorry i meant the length and salary per year

 

[brad cooper]

The whole Oliver thing is surely nothing more than trying to make the trade period more exciting than it actually is. Melbourne have said nothing, Oliver has said nothing.

Yet the journalists have heard through his friends that he wasn't happy with the Melbourne medical team and he moved into Max Gawns house, this then means he's on the market.

According to fox sports Melbourne have been into Harley Reid for a long time, wow, so has every other teams recruitment department.

I may end up with egg on my face but I'm calling bullshit on this on one.

 

[Bandicoot]

The Western Australian saying 2 hrs ago he has been offered an extension at Freo. Herald Sun saying he has asked to be traded to Sydney. If true He is an insurance policy for Melican's fitness nothing more.

He doesn't need to ask to be traded. He is an unrestricted free agent.

 

[Bandicoot]

Zerk Thatcher is underrated.

He was played out of position at Essendon because they had no one else in key defense, but he is a good medium defender.

Maybe, but he's not worth a first round.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Zerk Thatcher is underrated.

He was played out of position at Essendon because they had no one else in key defense, but he is a good medium defender.

Oooo .. don’t agree here.

I see Zerk-Thatcher as an ordinary fringe defender in a dud team & Dodoro asking for a first rounder would be comical if it weren’t for the McKay situation making the whole tall defender market completely absurd.

 

[Bandicoot]

I’m not , might sound like it.

He hasn’t nominated yet which is stange

Is there more happening behind the scenes

He hasn't nominated as he is still contracted to Melbourne. I believe all the players who have so far said that they want to be traded to other clubs are now uncontracted. This will all get done once trade period starts on 9th October.

 

[Nuggetz]

I've already got Grundy tapping it down to Oliver handballing it out to Gulden who is kicking it long for a Heeney speccy, leading to our 65th goal of the game. Carn.

 

[Bandicoot]

Breaking News - Fremantle is interested in Logan McDonald.

I am guessing they are probably half keen on Warner as well.

Most clubs are probably interested in Logan McDonald. So what??

 

[SGBeach]

I've already got Grundy tapping it down to Oliver handballing it out to Gulden who is kicking it long for a Heeney speccy, leading to our 65th goal of the game. Carn.

Ive already got Oliver having a sook that things havnt gone his way, giving other players the sh*ts, pissing the coaches off, pretending hes injured and therefore being a very expensive, list destroying pain in the ass.

Yes hes been and likely will be a fantastic player.. one of the best in the comp.. With Melbourne in the premiership window, why would they trade him?

$7m for 7 years!!!!!!
He can come here for a mid 2nd round pick and melbourne pay 33% of his salary. Otherwise he can stay melbournes problem.
Will be an interesting watch this trade period.. and over the next 7 years

 

[Nuggetz]

Ive already got Oliver having a sook that things havnt gone his way, giving other players the sh*ts, pissing the coaches off, pretending hes injured and therefore being a very expensive, list destroying pain in the ass.

Yes hes been and likely will be a fantastic player.. one of the best in the comp.. With Melbourne in the premiership window, why would they trade him?

$7m for 7 years!!!!!!
He can come here for a mid 2nd round pick and melbourne pay 33% of his salary. Otherwise he can stay melbournes problem.
Will be an interesting watch this trade period.. and over the next 7 years

uhhh...overreaction lol

 

[RUNVS]

Ive already got Oliver having a sook that things havnt gone his way, giving other players the sh*ts, pissing the coaches off, pretending hes injured and therefore being a very expensive, list destroying pain in the ass.

Yes hes been and likely will be a fantastic player.. one of the best in the comp.. With Melbourne in the premiership window, why would they trade him?

$7m for 7 years!!!!!!
He can come here for a mid 2nd round pick and melbourne pay 33% of his salary. Otherwise he can stay melbournes problem.
Will be an interesting watch this trade period.. and over the next 7 years

I don't recall Oliver ever having a sook on the field. I don't think I have ever seen him lower his head in a match.

 

[Nuggetz]

This one. from around 16min mark.

A bit earlier around 14:30 when he said he faked a hammy so he didn’t have to do most of the running tests.

Good to see he has a sense of humour. Before the Beatson talk etc, Clarry admitted he was fat. Beatson saying it & others alluding to it was just a reality check but Clarry called himself fat before the Beatson comments. I'm glad Beatson called him out for it & clearly he's matured since those days to become one of the most dominant footballers.

Realistically apart from Gulden, Tommy Mac & Mills. No one is at the level of Clarry or structurally as important to the team.

 

[SGBeach]

Realistically apart from Gulden, Tommy Mac & Mills. No one is at the level of Clarry or structurally as important to the team.

Hmmm.. overreaction

 

[Nuggetz]

Melb would want a combination of gun fwd or fwd/ruck, picks & a skilled ball user imo. Clarry would also need to accept the trade, I can't imagine him going to a non premiership contender. I think that's where we have an advantage compared to other sides. We're firmly in the premiership window with Clarry & Grundy.

Paying a combined rough estimate of 1.7mil/year for Clarry (1mil) & Grundy (700k) is fair imo. I assume our difficulty in recruiting talent from a purely $$$ viewpoint makes targets like Grundy/Clarry more desirable, if they want a lifestyle change too.

I wonder if the delay in Grundy deal is tied with our possible interest in Clarry?

Fun times ahead compared to recent past off-seasons. We could get everything, we could get nothing. Who knows?

 

[Nuggetz]

Hmmm.. overreaction

A bit different compared to accusing someone of becoming a list destroying pain in the ass...each to their own.

 

[Superstar swan]

Could this be why we suddenly cooled on crouch, re engaged doedee then pulled out of discussions etc??

 

[RUNVS]

Could this be why we suddenly cooled on crouch, re engaged doedee then pulled out of discussions etc??

If we are going to be glass half full then it is a possibility.

 

[Swannie0307]

Hamling has only played 6 games in the last 4 seasons!
He turns 31 early next season.
Would be disappointed if we went for him.

Edit: After subsequently finding out he played most of 2023 in the WAFL (after returning from a long term serious injury), it appears the Swans are confident he’s now fully recovered and hence he could be a great 2-3 years KPD option for us

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Hamling has only played 6 games in the last 4 seasons!
He turns 31 early next season.
Would be disappointed if we went for him.

Perhaps because Alex Pearce who is an AA defender is ahead of the bloke

 

[Superstar swan]

Hamling has only played 6 games in the last 4 seasons!
He turns 31 early next season.
Would be disappointed if we went for him.

It all depends on what he costs. He's going to be dirt cheap and will provide a decent backup at the lease. Seen him play live a few times at the end of the year and he looked pretty good all things considered