List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Ticky009]

Not sure we have the picks to satisfy the Dees. But who knows.

 

[RUNVS]

Not if we can't kick a winning score

Fixing the clearances would go a long way to being able to kick a winning score.

 

[Dan87]

If true, It's bizarre that they're after picks imo

 

[dosser]

I'd bite way before then. Articles are saying they want picks to trade eagles for pick one, they can take every draft pick that we own for the next 2 years as far as I'm concerned. We've got enough promising young kids at the moment. Cross the Rubicon, live off the rookie draft for a couple of years and let Oliver and Grundy lay waste to the midfields of our enemies.

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[Heeney2Franklin]

Not sure we have the picks to satisfy the Dees. But who knows.

Ugh forget it their whole motive is to trade up to pick 1.

North/Eagles only have the currency.

Gross.

 

[RUNVS]

Sheldrick will have more impact at the Swans in 2024 than Oliver.

We hope he will but we don't know it, and even if Sheldrick does become the player we want him to become it would not be fair to him to expect him to basically lead our inside mids in 2024 or even 2025.

 

[Ticky009]

Ugh forget it their whole motive is to trade up to pick 1.

North/Eagles only have the currency.

Gross.

Yep, North easily in the box seat and have salary cap to burn.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Yep, North easily in the box seat and have salary cap to burn.

Puke

 

[rustycrate]

We hope he will but we don't know it, and even if Sheldrick does become the player we want him to become it would not be fair to him to expect him to basically lead our inside mids in 2024 or even 2025.

Not with Oliver in the way I agree.

 

[ScrewInStuds]

Sheldrick will have more impact at the Swans in 2024 than Oliver.

This is true if they're both in different teams next year. I think that sheldrick is an exceptional young talent. Oliver is a proven, every-game-gun who is pretty much untaggable. If Gus is outshining him it'll be because Clarry is clearing the way with two of the opposition's best mids draped all over him.

 

[Ticky009]

If you hear a loud scream it will be me trying to mod the Oliver thread....

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

If you hear a loud scream it will be me trying to mod the Oliver thread....

My condolences Ticky

 

[RUNVS]

If you hear a loud scream it will be me trying to mod the Oliver thread....

We are all being good boys and girls.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

If you hear a loud scream it will be me trying to mod the Oliver thread....

The whole Oliver thing:

 

[Tomorrow]

expect gws would...

Not sure we have the picks to satisfy the Dees. But who knows.

 

[Ticky009]

We are all being good boys and girls.

That will change. Believe me. Once it becomes clear which clubs are involved, then all hell will break lose. Might even be Bombers.

 

[ScrewInStuds]

If you hear a loud scream it will be me trying to mod the Oliver thread....

Rumours are circulating internally that ticky disagrees with the draft board's handling of the Oliver thread and may be gettable by the Swans board.

 

[RUNVS]

That will change. Believe me. Once it becomes clear which clubs are involved, then all hell will break lose. Might even be Bombers.

I am not a mod but I think offensive language like this is banned on bigfooty.

 

[rustycrate]

This is true if they're both in different teams next year. I think that sheldrick is an exceptional young talent. Oliver is a proven, every-game-gun who is pretty much untaggable. If Gus is outshining him it'll be because Clarry is clearing the way with two of the opposition's best mids draped all over him.

You saw through me. I believe there is less than 1% chance that Clarry or Oliver will be at the Swans next year. Beatson is not that stupid. Talent alone is not enough. Why is Melbourne fielding offers. Vultures are circling because the smell of demise is on the rise. The Swans don't like distractions because it causes problems in the club if not this year than next year. Team chemistry is very important and Melbourne's actions imply that he is having an adverse affect on the team.
So good luck and high hopes to you all and happy dreams for the next few weeks thinking Clarry will be a Swan.
But Beatson knows it will end in a nightmare. At some stage.

 

[Membling]

Hmmmm.

On the field AFL player Clayton Oliver

13

Clayton Oliver

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

is what I want.

However, would be kicking all the tyres and turning all the rocks on him before even approaching the dees.

Signing a player to $1m a year for seven years and then potentially trade them out year one into that contract is a big red flag to me.

And of some of the rumblings are true, could cause issues off field which impact team performance

Asides, doubt we have the ammo and Dees would want r1 this year, next year and likely someone like Logan or Warner (which would be the going price)

 

[ashep]

100% Logan would be in the top 3-4 of absolute under no circumstances to be traded. I’d be putting Amartey up before Logan and we all rate Joel.

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

The whole Oliver thing:

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A done deal?

That looks like firmly holding straws rather than clutching at straws

 

[Tesla Tenet]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/clayton-oliver-at-centre-of-trade-rumour-bombshell/news-story/dcdf0e300ff15efed5e4dc86bd7e7bbf

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[Wheresbuddy]

Hmmmm.

On the field AFL player Clayton Oliver is what I want.

However, would be kicking all the tyres and turning all the rocks on him before even approaching the dees.

Signing a player to $1m a year for seven years and then potentially trade them out year one into that contract is a big red flag to me.

And of some of the rumblings are true, could cause issues off field which impact team performance

Asides, doubt we have the ammo and Dees would want r1 this year, next year and likely someone like Logan or Warner (which would be the going price)

If it's pick 1 they want, the only way I can think we could get it done is by trading Chad and Logan, with Corey as steak knives to WCE, who then send 1 to Dees, who in turn send Oliver to us.

Hard no from me.

 

[TheMase]

Umm ok but he's already shown he can perform at a standard way above high performance.
3 x AA, 4 x b & f, a flag and two x AFL.coaches award.
So clearly beatsons so called "test" had absolutely zero bearing on reality..
I'm sure plenty of people passed his "test" and never played a single AFL.game.
It's clearly horse s**t.
People are all different and respond in different ways to different things.
A good club is able to get a wide variety of people and have them reach their personal peak performance.
Not decide on one type of person and only recruit that one personality type.

Huh?
Beatson made those comments well before he’d achieved any of those things…. before being drafted. And at the time he self confessed to be overweight.

Who says we don’t? It’s just an example. It’s a test, nothing is absolute.