Analysis 2023 Draft Watch
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What’s the knock on him then to not be in the first round?
They’re first rounder qualities
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Would Schoenmakers be of any interest if he didn't have a superboot?
Josh Honey had just as good pedigree he just had no idea how to find the ball
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If he can develop to play a similar role to Martin (albeit more offensive to Jack's defensive efforts) then it'd be a helluva 1-2 punch up forward. Has tricks to be great in other areas, but if we see him as the Heeney-type in our forward line... there's 100% a place for him and has a point of difference. No more forcing Matty K to play half forward, thank you very much.
Think so; he is a playmaker, has a rapport with Cowan and appears as much as I hate to say it to be a bit of a Dustin Fletcher-esque type. Also can pinch hit in ruck and as a Tasmanian we may lose him, but will get decent compensation if he comes on.
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For us my preferences are:
Jiath
Lual
Roberts
Simpson
Sanchez
Edwards
Schoenmakers
The backmen I think actually have good comparison to our current ones
Jiath is a Newman type, tall and small interceptor with rebounding.
Lual is the Saad like pacy rebounder. Not as good defensively, but Adam is truly a standout there.
Roberts is a Docherty run and gunner, who would be best suited to an apprenticeship learning positioning as a zone defender (his one on one stuff is... Not his best suit)
Schoenmakers is very similar to Lachie Cowan, which is why I think we should miss.
I like Tew, good time to bring in a defender to learn the system and take over in a year or two, building rapport with Cowan, Boyd, Weitering etc.
Cooper Simpson has impressive points of difference as a mid which are worth a punt.
I like Koen as a half-forward mid type, but he'll need time to build the AFL physique
Mitch Edwards is talent, but 5 primary ruckmen is too much
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Jiath
Lual
Roberts
Simpson
Sanchez
Edwards
Schoenmakers
The backmen I think actually have good comparison to our current ones
Jiath is a Newman type, tall and small interceptor with rebounding.
Lual is the Saad like pacy rebounder. Not as good defensively, but Adam is truly a standout there.
Roberts is a Docherty run and gunner, who would be best suited to an apprenticeship learning positioning as a zone defender (his one on one stuff is... Not his best suit)
Schoenmakers is very similar to Lachie Cowan, which is why I think we should miss.
I like Tew, good time to bring in a defender to learn the system and take over in a year or two, building rapport with Cowan, Boyd, Weitering etc.
Cooper Simpson has impressive points of difference as a mid which are worth a punt.
I like Koen as a half-forward mid type, but he'll need time to build the AFL physique
Mitch Edwards is talent, but 5 primary ruckmen is too much
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ferrisb
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Very likely to get more for our future first by trading it next year vs trading it this year.
Blue and Silver
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I think Ashton has a lot of attributes which could lend themselves to midfield bursts.
Strong core, agile, great kicking, good movement.
Questions are how well he reads the play and running power. His hip issues will have affected endurance more than anything IMO ( I have had a similar issue and I just couldn't do my endurance running because of the soreness and slow recovery)
Lot of question marks about Ashton's development which o think is why he slid despite the obvious talent
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Cooper Simpson please.
If he's gone, I'd be interested in Jiath or Zakostelsky.
If he's gone, I'd be interested in Jiath or Zakostelsky.
Reaching back to this post to avoid retreading the same ideas, I like the idea of balancing (now) Moir with George Stevens. Sure, we don't need a big bullocking mid right now but we will in no time at all plus Stevens has that massive leadership/character tick. I believe he was HB of the year in a rep team, too, so has a few positions.
Seems like he has what I've been talking about in spades: intangibles.
If Moir is the high upside pick, Stevens is the high ceiling pick. Worth noting that beyond Carroll, we don't have any/many guys who could play a full VFL season in the guts. So a great depth, future pick that could end up being (as he's compared to) our Jack Graham equivalent.
In saying this, I'm also keen on Simpson, Edwards (think HOK is super raw and Mirkov will be gone next year) and Jiath as our backline could use a guy with his skills in years to come as the older gen are moved on.
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Just going by his highlights package, I was slightly less impressed than some. I don't know what it is, something just screams out 'VFL champion' to me.
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Not sure about that. Is "only" 194 cm so not really a key position. Played mainly as a third defender/winger this year. Pinch hit in the ruck? Can't see it.
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But he's not a KPP....he JSOS's height.
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This guy is my 'hope'.
Simpson
Roberts
Schoenmaker
Reid
Murphy
Simpson
Roberts
Schoenmaker
Reid
Murphy
This kid has some SERIOUS AFL traits. Can imagine him playing next year very early for whoever he's drafted to.
EDIT: Just ready the piece about him from 19/11 in the Dandenong Community rag. His intangibles catch the eye as well. Particularly these quotes:
Does the Team Stuff
"During preseason, Dandenong midfield coach Leigh Stewart anointed the nickname ‘extras king’ for Cooper Simpson."
Stands up in the big games
"Simpson last year skippered the Stingrays for a game, kicked a match-winner to cap a polished best-on-ground performance in a crunch match against Gippsland and was consistent throughout September."
Loyalty and being a good person
"If I’m lucky enough to get drafted, that’s where I’d envisage spending the rest of my life at. I want to be a one-club player wherever I go and I’ll give my all to that club, Simpson said. I’m a loyal person, loyal to my teammates and loyal to the (Stingrays) and I’m an honest person, so I love seeing blokes develop and get great joy from seeing people get better as a human".
Kid is clean, has fought through injury and is apparently the last one on the training track so his dedication can't be faulted. Not sure where he plays but seems he might be someone you can plug and play just about anywhere from HF to HB.
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Was talking about mental fortitude
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Whether we pick him or not I hope Lual gets taken, watching the video in AFL what a great story and family
Yes including having the option to chase a "big fish"
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See, I reckon we have ample run.
Organic improvement from Williams, O. Hollands, Binns, Cotters.
We've added E. Hollands and Orazio....
Walsh is Walsh.
Next year the Campo boys....
Pretty certain we weren’t taking Collard anyway.
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