Position 2023 Fantasy Defenders

[RowellAnderson12]

Powell and Weller due back round 4ish to seniors or VFL?

4 games then out is ok I think.
any less is an issue

This is why I liked Milera (over say Worpel) knowing he could slide back to solidify the back after rd 5. I just can’t do it without a proper look but if he performs re 1and other fix upsarent needed then Worpel to milera is certainly one I’ll be considering

Think Weller is close to Rd 1, but Powell had a hamstring set back.

Weller ready for selection Round 1-2, Lemmens minor calf strain maybe misses Round 1, Powell Round 1-2.

I reckon Macpherson gets picked before Constable

 

[DynamiteDons]

How many have Yeo at D2?

or is that too early?

 

[Milo Cyrus]

How many have Yeo at D2?

or is that too early?

I do. I'm not sold on anything down back being value at this point.

 

[tigs2010]

I do. I'm not sold on anything down back being value at this point.

What poo are you fielding behind him? Lol

He's rotated between D3 & 4 for me.

 

[Milo Cyrus]

What poo are you fielding behind him? Lol

He's rotated between D3 & 4 for me.

Where to start?

Hinge, Day, Constable, Ginbey. D3-6
With Hunt, Wilmot, Chesser & Cincotta pine riding.
Hoping I can get six out of them all,
And with Constable under the pump to keep his spot backup will be needed.

 

[bl4ke]

If anyone is worried about constable, just pick Hunt instead. JS no concern and priced at 42, easy 25+ points upside.

 

[Mezzoculo]

 

[Exambolor]

Ive ended up subbing Constable out for Jones….. I’m drawn by the Best 23 factor, and now my DEF is full mid price madness.

Sic, Dale, Yeo, Hunt, Jones, Ginbey.

Ginbey just feels right at D6, and I simply don’t trust any of the other rookies JS wise.

 

[Tex Danger]

If anyone is worried about constable, just pick Hunt instead. JS no concern and priced at 42, easy 25+ points upside.

im not sure you can say he is a safe 67.
Im happier to take constable knowing that Hunt may be an option to trade to if it is required and there is no better option

 

[Mezzoculo]

The risk with that scenario Tex Danger is means Constable ($332k) has scored poorly while Hunt ($379k) has scored well, blowing out the current $50k price difference. Which means you'll need extra money in the kitty or a second trade to bring in that cash.

 

[kozi]

Hunt managing only 61 with 9 marks is impressive. All he needs is about 70 to be viable and doubt he even averages that

The D4-5 spots seem doomed this year and not sure spending out of it is the answer. If Gibney goes down all hell is about to break loose

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Hunt managing only 61 with 9 marks is impressive. All he needs is about 70 to be viable and doubt he even averages that

The D4-5 spots seem doomed this year and not sure spending out of it is the answer. If Gibney goes down all hell is about to break loose

Hunt is a campaigner - definitely forbidden fruit.

I'm glad i'm not the only one on Jones @Examblor i'll save my rationale until after the bounce next weekend as I don't want to convince too many to jump on.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Hunt is a campaigner - definitely forbidden fruit.

I'm glad i'm not the only one on Jones @Examblor i'll save my rationale until after the bounce next weekend as I don't want to convince too many to jump on.

Have him too (Jones). More as an expensive place holder who can be downgraded if some fieldable rooks get picked, but am happy enough with my side to keep him if not.

He's almost 10% owned already so not all that unique though

 

[kozi]

Hunt is a campaigner - definitely forbidden fruit.

I'm glad i'm not the only one on Jones @Examblor i'll save my rationale until after the bounce next weekend as I don't want to convince too many to jump on.

Would love to hear the rationale behind Jones jumping to ~70 when he's been a flat 50 you could set your watch to for 12 seasons

Not saying there isn't one, just would love to hear it

 

[Tex Danger]

The risk with that scenario Tex Danger is means Constable ($332k) has scored poorly while Hunt ($379k) has scored well, blowing out the current $50k price difference. Which means you'll need extra money in the kitty or a second trade to bring in that cash.

oh i think there is little chance that hunt outscores constable while they are both playing.

It's the JS hunt has over constable and if hunt is scoring as well as constable he becomes an ok "fix up" option.

Its more likely constable gets dropped and you look at hunt and go - "no thank you"

Im happy at this stage to bet against Hunt and if what you say does happen then so be it, i got it wrong

 

[Tex Danger]

Hunt is a campaigner - definitely forbidden fruit.

I'm glad i'm not the only one on Jones @Examblor i'll save my rationale until after the bounce next weekend as I don't want to convince too many to jump on.

is this Jones from Port? Ave (and I assume priced at) 41 but remove the 2 green and 1 red (assume injured) vest that is 47.
I did see talk of midfield time for him but socred 29 from 54% TOG in the PS. Did have 7 CBA in that time - but not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing with a score that low (which at 80-85% gametime extrapolates to a 42-45- funny how that aligns with past averages!)

Thats a real leap of faith buying into the cub puff pieces talking up PS players surely?

Or is this a different Jones on peoples radar?

 

[Corby_4]

is this Jones from Port? Ave (and I assume priced at) 41 but remove the 2 green and 1 red (assume injured) vest that is 47.
I did see talk of midfield time for him but socred 29 from 54% TOG in the PS. Did have 7 CBA in that time - but not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing with a score that low (which at 80-85% gametime extrapolates to a 42-45- funny how that aligns with past averages!)

Thats a real leap of faith buying into the cub puff pieces talking up PS players surely?

Or is this a different Jones on peoples radar?

Doggies Liam Jones

 

[amazingjoshy]

Would love to hear the rationale behind Jones jumping to ~70 when he's been a flat 50 you could set your watch to for 12 seasons

Not saying there isn't one, just would love to hear it

Does he need to jump to 70? Like you said he's been a consistent low 50s his entire career, hopefully a little more freedom he can lift that to 55-60. He's priced only slightly above rookie price at 36.

Be a slow burn but if not enough rooks get named he's a heartbeat.

 

[kozi]

Does he need to jump to 70? Like you said he's been a consistent low 50s his entire career, hopefully a little more freedom he can lift that to 55-60. He's priced only slightly above rookie price at 36.

Be a slow burn but if not enough rooks get named he's a heartbeat.

70 would be good but you would take 60 given the JS. Haven't ruled him out and good chance I'll have to pick him given how disgusting the other options are. Just sceptical he goes much more than 50

 

[Corby_4]

70 would be good but you would take 60 given the JS. Haven't ruled him out and good chance I'll have to pick him given how disgusting the other options are. Just sceptical he goes much more than 50

How would you rank Jones, Hunt and Constable just out of curiosity?

 

[Cotchy9]

Let’s not forget we payed up for McCartin last year who had a similar Fantasy history. While I don’t love Jones, the JS is there and if he can do a 60 it’s a big win imo

A heap are also paying up
280k for Phillipou who imo is going to be a 50-55. Jones 40k more but don’t have the rookie defenders to go elsewhere

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Would love to hear the rationale behind Jones jumping to ~70 when he's been a flat 50 you could set your watch to for 12 seasons

Not saying there isn't one, just would love to hear it

**** it i'll explain. First i don't expect him to go to 70 and think that a 65 average will be more than sufficient which, combined with his lock best 22 ability, makes him really attractive in order to stiffen up my backline which I am running 3 players under 330k. I need the guaranteed job security in case one or two of my on field rookies suddenly get dropped. Jones wont.

Onto his scoring, Jones has played the majority of his fantasy relevant career at Carlton alongside elite defenders like Docherty, Saad and PARTICULARLY Jacob Weitering. Jacob Weitering is an elite disposer of the ball and can lazer it 40ms. In Carlton's switch, the ball is preferred in the hands of Weitering as that last player in the switch pivot role. Weitering by the way who has averaged 74 in the past. While Jones is actually quite a decent field kick, he had a tendency to bite off more than he could chew and take risky kicks. Hence he was non-preferred and the ball went through Weitering when it needed to go through a tall.

Now Jones enters the Doggies. A side whose defence consists of Alex ****ign Keath and whatever other crab they put down there. Jones is 10 times the footballer Alex Keath is and will play the Weitering role at the Doggies acting as the last pivot point in the switch. Add that role to his always elite intercept marking ability and you suddenly have the potential for 60+ points.

60+ points, best 22 lock you can ride up to the byes. I'm all in.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Let’s not forget we payed up for McCartin last year who had a similar Fantasy history. While I don’t love Jones, the JS is there and if he can do a 60 it’s a big win imo

A heap are also paying up
280k for Phillipou who imo is going to be a 50-55. Jones 40k more but don’t have the rookie defenders to go elsewhere

He's a better version of McCartin in my opinion. And that's why i'm locking him in. I hadn't realised he was as cheap as he was until this weeks praccies games so he's only just popped on my radar.

 

[Mezzoculo]

Liam Jones

19

Liam Jones

Age

33

Ht

199cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

134.5

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.1

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

averaged 52 in 2021, a career best year. Is currently priced at 36.

I'll take a punt on Hunt.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Liam Jones averaged 52 in 2021, a career best year. Is currently priced at 36.

I'll take a punt on Hunt.

This guy?



I won't convince you otherwise.