List Mgmt. 2023 GWS Giants List Management - Academy, Free Agent, Trade, Draft

[Giant Strides]

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Here's the list of GWS players who are out of contract in 2023 (I'll progressively cross them out as they re-sign):

• Lachie ASH
• Callan WARD (Free Agent)
• Brayden PREUSS
• Tom GREEN
• Finn CALLAGHAN
• Lachlan KEEFFE (Free Agent)
• Jake RICCARDI
• Harry HIMMELBERG (Free Agent)
• Cam FLEETON - delisted (25/9/23)
• Matt FLYNN (Free Agent) - signed by West Coast as an Unrestricted Free Agent
• Xavier O'HALLORAN
• Jack BUCKLEY
• Callum BROWN

Rookie lists:

• Phil DAVIS (Free Agent) - retiring at end of 2023 season
• Jacob WEHR (Free agent)
• Dan LLOYD (Free Agent) - retiring at end of 2023 season
• Cooper HAMILTON
• Wade DERKSEN
• Nick MADDEN (Cat B) - assumed re-signed due to 2 sources of info
• Jason GILBEE (Cat B) - delisted (25/9/23)

Current list sizes (for when we get to list/draft/trade speculation):

• main list = 36 minus 3 (Fleeton, Flynn + Kennedy delisted with a view to be re-selected in the rookie draft)
• rookie A = 6 minus 2 (Davis, Lloyd)
• rookie B = 2 minus 1 (Gilbee)
• total = 44 minus 5

This is the future pick spreadsheet that comes into play only at trade time, as future picks are used in end of season (2023) trading:


Here's the 2023 AFL Academy Squad, so these (roughly) represent the best players for next year as they stand now:

2023 NAB AFL ACADEMY​

NAME	SURNAME	STATE	STATE LEAGUE CLUB	COMMUNITY CLUB
Lachlan	Cabor	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Shellharbour
Nate	Caddy	VIC M	Northern Knights	Yarrambat
Jack	Callinan	TAS	Tasmania Devils	Clarence
Caiden	Cleary	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Sydney University
Daniel	Curtin	WA	Claremont	West Coast
Jack	Delean	SA	South Adelaide	Reynella
Zane	Duursma	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Foster
Mitchell	Edwards	WA	Peel Thunder	South Mandurah
William	Green	VIC M	Northern Knights	Northcote
Riley	Hardeman	WA	Swan Districts	Caversham
William	Lorenz	VIC M	Oakleigh Chargers	Boroondara Hawks
Kane	McAuliffe	SA	North Adelaide	Central Augusta
Colby	McKercher	TAS	Tasmania Devils	Launceston
Ashton	Moir	SA	Glenelg	Plympton
Connor	O'Sullivan	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Albury
William	Patton	SA	West Adelaide	Mitcham
Nathan	Philactides	VIC M	Oakleigh Chargers	Blackburn
Ethan	Read	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin
Archer	Reid	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Inverloch-Kongwak
Harley	Reid	VIC C	Bendigo Pioneers	Tongala
Archie	Roberts	VIC M	Sandringham Dragons	Hampton Rovers
Jake	Rogers	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Broadbeach
Ryley	Sanders	TAS	Sandringham Dragons	North Launceston
Cooper	Simpson	VIC C	Dandenong Stingrays	Mount Martha
George	Stevens	VIC C	GWV Rebels	South Warrnambool
Koltyn	Tholstrup	WA	Subiaco	Newtown-Condingup
Orlando	Turner	NT	West Adelaide	South Alice Springs
Jed	Walter	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin
Nick	Watson	VIC M	Eastern Ranges	East Ringwood
Darcy	Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers

Happy speculating for 2023!

EDIT: 11/12/22 - Added Free Agent status to OOC player list
EDIT: 24/2/23 - Crossed out Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

from OOC player list! (Woo Hoo!!) & Added 2023 Coates Talent League Fixture Link
EDIT: 27/2/23 - Crossed out Finn Callaghan from OOC player list! (Woo Hoo Hoo!!!)
EDIT: 27/4/23 - Crossed out Jacob Wehr from OOC player list
EDIT: 10/5/23 - Crossed out Jack Buckley from OOC player list
EDIT: 9/7/23 - Crossed out Callum Brown from OOC player list
EDIT: 18/7/23 - Crossed out Lachie Ash from OOC player list
EDIT: 20/7/23 - Crossed out Xavier O'Halloran from OOC player list
EDIT: 3/8/23 - Crossed out Harry Himmelberg from OOC player list
EDIT: 9/8/23 - Crossed out Wade Derksen from OOC player list
EDIT: 17/8/23 - Noted Dan Lloyd retiring at end of season
EDIT: 19/8/23 - Crossed out Jake Riccardi from OOC player list
EDIT: 28/8/23 - Noted Phil Davis

1

Phil Davis

Age

34

Ht

197cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.7

4star

MG

55.5

1star

D

8.5

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

55.5

1star

D

14.0

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

retiring at end of season
EDIT: 25/9/23 - Noted Cam Fleeton & Jason Gilbee delisted
EDIT: 4/10/23 - Noted Flynn, Preuss & Keeffe situations
EDIT: 9/10/23 - Updated Flynn to WCE, removed Preuss from OOC player list
EDIT: 12/10/23 - Updated Madden with 2 sources of information
EDIT: 19/10/23 - Updated Keeffe & Hamilton re-signed
EDIT: 31/10/23 - adjusted main list numbers with Adam Kennedy

40

Adam Kennedy

Age

32

Ht

183cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

8.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

245.6

4star

D

1.0

1star

K

1.0

1star

HB

0.0

1star

M

0.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

10.0

1star

D

18.6

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.4

4star

delisting (with a view to be re-selected in rookie draft)

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Hmmm he has a lot of family connections to Richmond.

Would hope so, hopefully he signs quickly

Whilst his grandfather played for Richmond and he’s got an extended family there who are Tiger supporters, Tom went to school at Marist, a boys catholic school here in Canberra. He is from our Academy, and his mates in Canberra have a Tom Green Fan Club tent whenever GWS plays in Canberra. Tom also has said very positive stuff about GWS and not expressed any unhappiness (at least in public or in any media rumours) about his time here. Of Ash, Callaghan, Himmelberg and Tom, the two most likely to extend due to the “Go Home” factor are Tom and Himmelberg? The contract talks with Callaghan seems to be going fine based on the public statements by Jason McCartney.

 

[Andre the Giant]

This has Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

feels about it.

 

[Hendo_21]

This has Tom Green feels about it.

HH or Green I'd think, HH said something the other day about not being in a rush so likely to be Green

 

[Hendo_21]

Green it is! God that's such a relief

 

[Callums_Guns]

Four More for Green

Tom Green has re-signed with the GIANTS.

www.gwsgiants.com.au

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

oh - and suck on that Richmond fans

 

[BarryAglett]

Four More for Green

Tom Green has re-signed with the GIANTS.

www.gwsgiants.com.au

Let's also hope the contract fits with the new salary cap goals.
In 4-5 years, the current huge contracts will be mostly expired and Green will be in his prime.
Great news though.

 

[Colonial]

I remember all the Richmond fans screaming that this wasn’t like North fans and Kelly. As they aren’t North so Green will come.


Well. Well.

 

[Orange crush]

I remember all the Richmond fans screaming that this wasn’t like North fans and Kelly. As they aren’t North so Green will come.


Well. Well.

Tbf, them taking Timmy and Jacob probably helped us a lot in resigning this year do we shouldn’t be too harsh on them

Still I’d rather have Tom than Jacob if it was a choice so good on us!!!!

 

[Colonial]

Just went and had a look at the Tigers trades thread.
You copy and paste from all those years ago on North Pages and it would be exact.

“Well will get him when he is FA.”

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Great signing!! Fantastic news for the weekend. So now we want the signatures of Himmelberg, Callaghan and Ash?

 

[fridgeman]

Good to get Greens signature before the season starts although by the sounds of it not the hardest to get but still well done to those involved and he has 4 years to get to be the #1 inside mid in the game
Still 3 to go and not sure how they play out but I think Finn will be next with likely the club has a fair deal in front of him although it may be improved depending on his early season form
HH is hard to read as it should be a formality but after his form in the back half i can see some clubs upping offers for him and it is the contract that sets him up for life and not sure what the club will be offering contract wise but I cant see much over 600K unless he is on track for a 50 goal season. I think Mcstay got 650 pa to move to the Pies and I would value HH about the same but hopefully by the time the club has the bye the above 3 are signed
Ash will need a solid season as I think he has underperformed but i think it is likely down to the disrupted seasons with covid and then also the coaching change and then not settling in a prefered position. Based on his form of last year I can see a 500k contract for him so maybe if a club sees potential they may offer 600k but he would need to show a lot imo

 

[Hendo_21]

Good to get Greens signature before the season starts although by the sounds of it not the hardest to get but still well done to those involved and he has 4 years to get to be the #1 inside mid in the game
Still 3 to go and not sure how they play out but I think Finn will be next with likely the club has a fair deal in front of him although it may be improved depending on his early season form
HH is hard to read as it should be a formality but after his form in the back half i can see some clubs upping offers for him and it is the contract that sets him up for life and not sure what the club will be offering contract wise but I cant see much over 600K unless he is on track for a 50 goal season. I think Mcstay got 650 pa to move to the Pies and I would value HH about the same but hopefully by the time the club has the bye the above 3 are signed
Ash will need a solid season as I think he has underperformed but i think it is likely down to the disrupted seasons with covid and then also the coaching change and then not settling in a prefered position. Based on his form of last year I can see a 500k contract for him so maybe if a club sees potential they may offer 600k but he would need to show a lot imo

Mcstay has never kicked 30 goals in a season and HH has done that multiple times, HH is going to get paid especially as a KPF because they aren't growing on trees and are hard to come by. Finn seems pretty far down the track at this point which is good not sure how much of the contract is going to change with how he plays, Jason talking about it publically like that means it'd be quite far down the line of getting an extension sorted. Really don't think we've seen the best of Ash, he just isn't a winger and got played there for a good chunk of the last 2 years, one of the guys I'm most excited to see this year.

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Good to get Greens signature before the season starts although by the sounds of it not the hardest to get but still well done to those involved and he has 4 years to get to be the #1 inside mid in the game
Still 3 to go and not sure how they play out but I think Finn will be next with likely the club has a fair deal in front of him although it may be improved depending on his early season form
HH is hard to read as it should be a formality but after his form in the back half i can see some clubs upping offers for him and it is the contract that sets him up for life and not sure what the club will be offering contract wise but I cant see much over 600K unless he is on track for a 50 goal season. I think Mcstay got 650 pa to move to the Pies and I would value HH about the same but hopefully by the time the club has the bye the above 3 are signed
Ash will need a solid season as I think he has underperformed but i think it is likely down to the disrupted seasons with covid and then also the coaching change and then not settling in a prefered position. Based on his form of last year I can see a 500k contract for him so maybe if a club sees potential they may offer 600k but he would need to show a lot imo

Whilst it would be great to have all 3: (1) Himmelberg will be the hardest get as there will be more interest from other clubs, and as you said, this is the contract that will set him up for life. Hopefully, like Tom Green the “go home” factor will work for us!
(2) All the news so far seem positive on us retaining Callaghan
(3) early days yet, but no news on Ash?

 

[sydney_gws]

oh - and suck on that Richmond fans

I think they are more interested in himmelberg. I think they will still be interested in getting Green as a free agent in 2028. Hopefully thry don't lower free agency to 7 years rather than 8.

 

[MelbourneGWS]

We may need to wait awhile before Himmelberg makes a decision. His agent was stating Adelaide as an option, given family members who are there including his brother

AFL agent provides latest on GWS free agent Harry Himmelberg's plans, responds to potential Adelaide interest

"The free agents always seem to create the most interest."

www.zerohanger.com

 

[Hendo_21]

We may need to wait awhile before Himmelberg makes a decision. His agent was stating Adelaide as an option, given family members who are there including his brother

AFL agent provides latest on GWS free agent Harry Himmelberg's plans, responds to potential Adelaide interest

"The free agents always seem to create the most interest."

www.zerohanger.com

Just his agent trying to use another team as leverage to get a better deal for his client, nothing surprising

 

[Danny88]

If the players believe there will be success they will stay

I see this season as pivotal. I hope the game plan is something we can capitalize on and shoot up the ladder while the senior players are still this side of 30

If it doesn’t work, players like ash and Harry will see the writing on the wall, knowing we will bottom out and leave

 

[MelbourneGWS]

If the players believe there will be success they will stay

I see this season as pivotal. I hope the game plan is something we can capitalize on and shoot up the ladder while the senior players are still this side of 30

If it doesn’t work, players like ash and Harry will see the writing on the wall, knowing we will bottom out and leave

Agree that this is a pivotal season with Adam introducing his new game plans. And it seems that the same agent who is representing Himmelberg, is representing Ash and Callaghan? They seem to indicate that they will see how things work out with Adam, before committing longer term to us

 

[Hendo_21]

Browne reporting that Melbourne clubs expect Finn to re-sign with us

 

[Giant Pete]

Any more injury news from the weekend?

 

[Colonial]

Browne reporting that Melbourne clubs expect Finn to re-sign with us

Fingers crossed

 

[PaythePerryman]

Browne reporting that Melbourne clubs expect Finn to re-sign with us

This in conjunction with a clear bill of health would be amazing.

 

[Colonial]

 

[Giant Pete]

Finn!