List Mgmt. 2023 List Management and Trading

[PeterSalt]

I get the idea that players can still look to break contracts to 'head home'

It's just that the whole process is a lot harder than for out contract players and RFA's.

And Geelong, for example, have recently held 2 players to their contracts (Kelly & Ratagolea).

 

[crows dude]

We’ve got just the two CatB’s.. youre only allowed two at any one timw I beleive..

Pretty sure Keane is one as well.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Pretty sure Keane is one as well.

He cant be.

He’s already been on another AFL list.

 

[GrommoT]

Cat B's you're allowed 3.

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The March 2022 amended rules state max 2 Cat Bs - I wouldn't count on the AFL website to be fully accurate.

It was dropped down to 2 during the covid era and don't think they're restored that to 3 just yet.


Brought up elsewhere, Keane's not a Cat B - doesn't meet the listed conditions.

 

[Crows I Am]

It is good but they can still walk at anytime. Nicksy needs to keep us getting better.

They can ask to walk but we can still say no if they are contracted. And if we do decide to let them go then we hold all the cards with the negotiations. Look at the Gibbs trade the first time he requested a trade. Carlton put a ridiculous price on his head and didn't need to budge at all. If someone is then willing to pay that to get them out then we still come out of the deal well.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I heard through the grapevine that Adelaide only offered Jake Lever

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Jake Lever

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28

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194cm

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94kg

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14.6

4star

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9.7

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

242.0

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

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3.1

2star

M

3.9

4star

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1.3

2star

MG

145.4

3star

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16.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

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5.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

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1.6

4star

MG

189.8

4star

350K. If that's true, I'm not sure he's the traitor in that ordeal. Kind of incredible that we have the same list manager now as we did back then. Did we just allow Reid to learn on the job or what?

 

[BunjiMac]

I heard through the grapevine that Adelaide only offered Jake Lever 350K. If that's true, I'm not sure he's the traitor in that ordeal. Kind of incredible that we have the same list manager now as we did back then. Did we just allow Reid to learn on the job or what?

Its not true

 

[Danger in Texas]

Bombers getting Simon Madden in to help in presentation for Redman

Smells like desperation

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Its not true

Do you have inside information or is this just more chinese whispers?

 

[1990crow]

Bombers getting Simon Madden in to help in presentation for Redman

Smells like desperation

Reminds of GC players basically trying to guilt trip Izak into staying.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I heard through the grapevine that Adelaide only offered Jake Lever 350K. If that's true, I'm not sure he's the traitor in that ordeal. Kind of incredible that we have the same list manager now as we did back then. Did we just allow Reid to learn on the job or what?

When did he start?

When you start you're lumped with the contracts you inherit which hamstrings you to a degree

 

[Mr_Moogle]

When did he start?

When you start you're lumped with the contracts you inherit which hamstrings you to a degree

Crapvertiser article about it is dated December 8th 2014.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/adelaide-crows-sign-new-list-manager-justin-reid/news-story/4b6d81f3cff7c53299b16c72f163f403

 

[Danger in Texas]

Crapvertiser article about it is dated December 8th 2014.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/adelaide-crows-sign-new-list-manager-justin-reid/news-story/4b6d81f3cff7c53299b16c72f163f403

Geez, he’s been here almost 10 years?

Feels like no time since he was a novice, witnessing SOS slamming his laptop shut and storming out of the negotiation room

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Geez, he’s been here almost 10 years?

Feels like no time since he was a novice, witnessing SOS slamming his laptop shut and storming out of the negotiation room

Is he still based in Melbourne. Makes good on the working from home principal.

 

[UcantCme]

I heard through the grapevine that Adelaide only offered Jake Lever

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Jake Lever

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

242.0

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.1

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

145.4

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

189.8

4star

350K. If that's true, I'm not sure he's the traitor in that ordeal. Kind of incredible that we have the same list manager now as we did back then. Did we just allow Reid to learn on the job or what?

I would say that someone is spinning you a huge bag of bullshit

No way we offered Jake such a low ball contract


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[Mr_Moogle]

I would say that someone is spinning you a huge bag of bullshit

No way we offered Jake such a low ball contract


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That was my initial reaction. Then I got thinking about it and I don't think it's impossible. Remember how we treated Lyons? We have form there.

 

[conVINCEd]

That was my initial reaction. Then I got thinking about it and I don't think it's impossible. Remember how we treated Lyons? We have form there.

I always thought we lowballed Lyons to entice him to look elsewhere, hoping he’d be part of the Gibbs trade with Carlton.

Surely we really did want to keep Lever.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I always thought we lowballed Lyons to entice him to look elsewhere, hoping he’d be part of the Gibbs trade with Carlton.

Surely we really did want to keep Lever.

I doubt we wanted to lose either of them. It was just an unwanted side effect of mishandling the salary cap by giving the senior group too bigger slice of the pie.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Bombers getting Simon Madden in to help in presentation for Redman

Smells like desperation

Good. Does sound like they’re really worried. Where there’s smoke!

And we’ve been locking in the salary cap and firming up the youngsters

 

[MRB37]

I doubt we wanted to lose either of them. It was just an unwanted side effect of mishandling the salary cap by giving the senior group too bigger slice of the pie.

We were dangling Lyons to the Blues, we just thought they'd be smart enough to take him, then SOS got on his high horse and mostly blew the deal up out of spite.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

We were dangling Lyons to the Blues, we just thought they'd be smart enough to take him, then SOS got on his high horse and mostly blew the deal up out of spite.

Actually I remember that now. They wanted Cameron and the club was like "lol no". Then it was midfielders and they obviously didn't rate Lyons. Can't remember if that was before or after they took Kerridge.

SOS was such a moron. The axe he had to grind over losing Betts led him to make some really stupid decisions.

 

[Redline]

I doubt we wanted to lose either of them. It was just an unwanted side effect of mishandling the salary cap by giving the senior group too bigger slice of the pie.

This is the key point, Reid was told to secure them all but we couldn't afford it and they all wanted top dollar. Nearly all the senior players were strongly talking to other clubs, they were entitled to do it bit it cost us in the end.

That's why I don't have much sympathy for guys like Tex and Sloane now a days when they only get one year deals.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

This is the key point, Reid was told to secure them all but we couldn't afford it and they all wanted top dollar. Nearly all the senior players were strongly talking to other clubs, they were entitled to do it bit it cost us in the end.

That's why I don't have much sympathy for guys like Tex and Sloane now a days when they only get one year deals.

Maybe a bit of overpaying to hold the spine together while we were contending.

 

[Tex Danger]

Maybe a bit of overpaying to hold the spine together while we were contending.

Successful teams are built on the spine accepting underpayment to strengthen the group

Our culture on this has been wrong a long time.

Danger/Sloane for an period openly talked about short careers, having to look after yourself, treating things like a business. This period poisoned our culture.

 

[Gtowncrow]

When did he start?

When you start you're lumped with the contracts you inherit which hamstrings you to a degree

Very good point.