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"For instance, it would have allowed Adelaide to list one of Rory Sloane or Taylor Walker as a veteran for 2024 and opened up another spot on their primary list. The idea was designed to keep veterans in the game without sacrificing a list spot that a youngster may have taken, with the veteran’s full payments still counted in the salary cap."
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The Saints honestly have a very nice crop of young talent coming through (King, Phillipou, NWM, Owens, Windhager, Wilson to name a few), reckon they can really build something in a few years if they can keep them all together
If we are talking wish list this close to Christmas, mine is the premiership team on 2027:
2024: adl first + future first for phillipou and St kilda second
2024: melb 2nd and St kilda 2nd for Welsh
2025: free agency H Petty
2026: free agency J Lukosius
2027 team:
PedlarFogartyRankine
PhillipouThilthorpeLukosius
HingeEdwardsSoligo
CurtinPettyLaird
WorrellMurrayMichalanny
O'BrienDawsonRachele
intMileraWelshNankervisRyan
EmgJonesCookDowling
2024: adl first + future first for phillipou and St kilda second
2024: melb 2nd and St kilda 2nd for Welsh
2025: free agency H Petty
2026: free agency J Lukosius
2027 team:
PedlarFogartyRankine
PhillipouThilthorpeLukosius
HingeEdwardsSoligo
CurtinPettyLaird
WorrellMurrayMichalanny
O'BrienDawsonRachele
intMileraWelshNankervisRyan
EmgJonesCookDowling
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Correct.
To win the flag, not only do you need an elite midfield, you need to bat deep in it as well.
Thats not even taking consideration the potential for injury.
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I hope you are right and in which case, as you and others say, he becomes a priority (provided he's playing predominately midfield).
Absolutely. Taylor Adams at the end couldn't get a game and he's not half bad.
Wasn't he injured?
But he definitely left the Pies in the end for greater opportunities at the Swans, I'll give you that
A midfield has to bat deep to be considered elite IMO, they're not two separate things
Usually, all four or five players in an elite midfield rotation are very good, or better. The two grand final sides are perfect examples of that (Daicos/De Goey/Pendles/Mitchell/Crisp vs Neale/Dunkley/Clug/Ashcroft/Bailey)
Injured in the middle of the year but was good for finals I believe
Incredible that people couldn’t rate Phillipou first season in afl
As you say was the youngest player in the league last year and never got dropped in a team that played finals
Remarkable season
And some of the classy stuff he did , just moments but who cares , that’s all you need at that age
Will be a genuine elite star , all I’d want to see is that he’s come on since another pre season and I’d be all in
Preference over Oliver too
It’s the only reason I would take him, even then Im still not sure it’s a need
I don't think you turn down talent that wants to come home if best 22. It does come down to cost of course, but the club sees a lot in this kid - I think the whole AFL will be watching him a bit closer once he returns from injury.
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You haven't watched Petty a lot, have you ....huge difference between pitch hitting as a fwd ....and playing fwd FT
History is littered with these stories .....most famous is Silvagni (the middle one) .....who pitched hit, and nearly always kicked goals ....but he's in the Hall Of Fame as a DEF
That’s where he’s playing in 2024
Hard to judge him as a back if he doesn’t play there next year
Would you spend 900k on him and early picks as a defender if he plays forward all year in 2024 and we have good defenders already ?
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He's playing FWD ....because MELB need him fwd ....it's not Melb deciding Petty's a better fwd than def
The plan obviously has always been Petty as May's replacement .....Van Rooyen should also be stronger in 2025
Given I've been a fan of Petty since his U18 year .....absolutely I want him ...$900K is pie in the sky stuff
So how are you going to judge him for value as a 900k defender if he plays forward ?
Also if you trade for needs and our backline performs next year which I think it might , how can you justify paying someone 900k and multiple high picks for a role you don’t need ?
It’s not a lock , it’s a maybe
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Because I've watched every game he's played as a Defender at AFL level .....he's a Premiership Winning CHB ....not a forward !
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Exactly, needs to be FA, we tried to trade, didn't work, Melbourne shouldn't get another chance, and would be unlikely to trade.
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Yep..low priority he should be when maybe oliver and phillipou might be an opion
We just don’t get young players coming home to SA very often before their second contract … do we?
JHF was a bad choice by North, should have taken the offers from Adelaide teams before the draft.
I think we need to focus on the players that want to come here, not the ones that we dream of being in the tri-colours with no real indication that it’s a possibility.
So for me.
Petty is a lock. Top line defender, that can switch hit. Tick. He wants to come, I think we get him over the line next year.
Oliver is a superstar midfielder. I would say he is in the top couple of players in the league when he is firing. He seems to have identified us as a legitimate option through Burgess. We must take him and any perceived risk if he is available.
You take Hayward if he is coming via free agency. Always take the free hits to make your squad better. We just need to capitalise on SA players coming home whenever possible.
Isaac Cumming is an example of another possible free hit. Just keep improving the squad.
I don’t think we get Phillipou. We don’t live in a pie in the sky world where every super talented youngster comes to us for unders.
We will have the opposite problem with Soligo and Rachele … every VIC team throwing the kitchen sink at them, hopefully we have them under lock and key for the most productive parts of their careers!
JHF was a bad choice by North, should have taken the offers from Adelaide teams before the draft.
I think we need to focus on the players that want to come here, not the ones that we dream of being in the tri-colours with no real indication that it’s a possibility.
So for me.
Petty is a lock. Top line defender, that can switch hit. Tick. He wants to come, I think we get him over the line next year.
Oliver is a superstar midfielder. I would say he is in the top couple of players in the league when he is firing. He seems to have identified us as a legitimate option through Burgess. We must take him and any perceived risk if he is available.
You take Hayward if he is coming via free agency. Always take the free hits to make your squad better. We just need to capitalise on SA players coming home whenever possible.
Isaac Cumming is an example of another possible free hit. Just keep improving the squad.
I don’t think we get Phillipou. We don’t live in a pie in the sky world where every super talented youngster comes to us for unders.
We will have the opposite problem with Soligo and Rachele … every VIC team throwing the kitchen sink at them, hopefully we have them under lock and key for the most productive parts of their careers!
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