List Mgmt. 2023 List Management and Trading

[Jeffcrowe]

Now is the time to be aggressive in our list strategy

We have turned over and exposed our list but we still have gaps to fill

We need a quality defender, quality mid and a long term ruck prospect

We need to consider trading contract players out who may get better opportunities elsewhere, Ned, Shol, and maybe Berry


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All well and good but who and how ?

We went hard at Will Day who was the one that would have helped us most

Now we are likely just hitting draft

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I thought he was AFL emergency last week and recall some mention or thought I had that he was still one game short for SANFL finals

Nah he played in sanfl and had career best stats

Quite common to go back down a level and find a new peak of performance at the lower level

 

[Peter Doherty]

Yep that’s the sort of thing we need to carefully risk manage

Given all that people need to temper expectation re what we get in draft , we won’t be drafting an elite midfielder unless they’re Tasmanian

There’s a fair chance we draft a key defender or flanker type in the 1st round

That’s the cards that have been dealt

Cheers, coming from one of our resident draft guys I'm even less keen on some of these proposed trades.

We still need to move our future first into this year, trade for a player perhaps.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Yep that’s the sort of thing we need to carefully risk manage

Given all that people need to temper expectation re what we get in draft , we won’t be drafting an elite midfielder unless they’re Tasmanian

There’s a fair chance we draft a key defender or flanker type in the 1st round

That’s the cards that have been dealt

Wilson

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Nah he played in sanfl and had career best stats

Quite common to go back down a level and find a new peak of performance at the lower level

That was yesterday. He didn’t ply against Sturt

 

[GrommoT]

All well and good but who and how ?

We went hard at Will Day who was the one that would have helped us most

Now we are likely just hitting draft

Might not hurt to bank our picks to the future - trade '23 picks into '24, then '24 into '25, each time trying to increase value. We're on the way up and our r1 picks aren't going to be crash hot in the years to come.

 

[MsTopG]

Didn’t Nank need to play one more game to qualify for SANFL finals?

Unlikely. He played SANFL most of the year. Nicks couldn't get him out fast enough. A weird decision to not pick him over Parnell and one that Nicks should regret after seeing Parnell play.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Unlikely. He played SANFL most of the year. Nicks couldn't get him out fast enough. A weird decision to not pick him over Parnell and one that Nicks should regret after seeing Parnell play.

No. There is some rule for the AFL teams that an AFL listed player needs to have played [x] number of games after [y] date to be allowed to play SANFL finals.

[y] date is mid July sometime?!?!

 

[jackster83]

Maybe that then , that’s a good point

Was pretty dumb to not have him play at any level last week.

Seems like it's only ever younger players who get the travelling emergency one week suspension treatment.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Was pretty dumb to not have him play at any level last week.

Seems like it's only ever younger players who get the travelling emergency one week suspension treatment.

Some of that is to keep them fresh

Was just surprised parnell was selected in front of him this week , the sanfl finals and trying to work out where Parnell sits next year are 2 possible reasons mentioned I agree with

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Might not hurt to bank our picks to the future - trade '23 picks into '24, then '24 into '25, each time trying to increase value. We're on the way up and our r1 picks aren't going to be crash hot in the years to come.

Needs to come into consideration

Have heard Hamish say he rates this draft though , don’t really agree outside of top end but it’s not first time he’s gone against the grain

 

[jackster83]

Some of that is to keep them fresh

Was just surprised parnell was selected in front of him this week , the sanfl finals and trying to work out where Parnell sits next year are 2 possible reasons mentioned I agree with

The problem I have with it is we then punish them the following week at selection because they didn't play.

 

[MsTopG]

Needs to come into consideration

Have heard Hamish say he rates this draft though , don’t really agree outside of top end but it’s not first time he’s gone against the grain

Yeah I would be trading out our future first to try and get another first in 12-15 range for this year. Use pick 9 and hopefully another first to get 2 mids in. Use the trade for a KPD and a better ruck.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Cheers, coming from one of our resident draft guys I'm even less keen on some of these proposed trades.

We still need to move our future first into this year, trade for a player perhaps.

A player trade coming in is ideal but not sure I can see it happening this year

We could trade into this year with future picks but also I could see the opposite too , trading into some next year with the quality of SA kids next year compared to one of the worst batches this year

 

[Jeffcrowe]

The problem I have with it is we then punish them the following week at selection because they didn't play.

Yep , agree with that . Should have come in instead of Parnell regardless

Unless it was a qualification thing or giving Parnell a chance to see if we can get some trade value ( can’t see it )

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Yeah I would be trading out our future first to try and get another first in 12-15 range for this year. Use pick 9 and hopefully another first to get 2 mids in. Use the trade for a KPD and a better ruck.

Not any standout mids in that range , similar to what we have already
We don’t need any more foot soldiers and B graders

We need quality over quantity over the next 2 drafts

 

[BRL121]

I thought he was AFL emergency last week and recall some mention or thought I had that he was still one game short for SANFL finals

We're not back here again, are we? The list of SANFL-qualified players was announced last week and presented here several times: Nankervis was on it.

He was not sent back to qualify.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

We're not back here again, are we? The list of SANFL-qualified players was announced last week and presented here several times: Nankervis was on it.

He was not sent back to qualify.

Ok so it wasn’t that

Confused as to how we could pick Parnell other than to see what we do with him next year

 

[Crows I Am]

You guys aren't really giving the club much to work with if you rule out the Tassie boys. Everyone is saying we need to draft a midfielder with our first pick, but then some don't want one of the 2 Tassie mids as they may leave when the new team comes in. Doesn't really leave many options for them if we do manage to get a hold of the Gold Coast pick.

 

[1990crow]

You guys aren't really giving the club much to work with if you rule out the Tassie boys. Everyone is saying we need to draft a midfielder with our first pick, but then some don't want one of the 2 Tassie mids as they may leave when the new team comes in. Doesn't really leave many options for them if we do manage to get a hold of the Gold Coast pick.

Have to deal with reality - those tassie players WILL leave once their team comes in.

 

[Crows I Am]

Have to deal with reality - those tassie players WILL leave once their team comes in.

What would your preference for us to do this year? Take a tall instead of one of the Tas boys? Or take a mid earlier than expected just to go after a midfielder?

 

[crow2crow]

Is it just me or does anyone else think soligo will end up the best of all of our kids?

Even though I was critical of his recruitment he has proven me wrong by couple of orders of magnitude already.

 

[CromradeCromulent]

We're not back here again, are we? The list of SANFL-qualified players was announced last week and presented here several times: Nankervis was on it.

He was not sent back to qualify.

We don't know how it was saying he was qualifying. For all we know he qualified at that time and one more afl game could have ruled him out. God I want the crom Jr to win the flag this year, just as a big **** you to the purists and the SANFL itself.

 

[MRB37]

No. There is some rule for the AFL teams that an AFL listed player needs to have played [x] number of games after [y] date to be allowed to play SANFL finals.

[y] date is mid July sometime?!?!

Nank was already listed as having qualified when the list of players eligible was published 3 or 4 days ago.

 

[1970crow]

Just have no idea why he played in front of Nankervis last night

Must have been something that Nank wasn’t doing that coaches wanted

final look? Tambo played in the final game of the season away against Eagles in the year he was delisted.