Do soccer proponents realise they are actually wannabe colonisers that poohoo and belittle and destroy local and indigenous sports, saying what should be in preference for their game to take over everything?
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When Perth Stadium was built all the media posts where that it was going to modelled on the MCG rather than Subiaco.
It looks like it was a compromise being longer than the MCG (and other ovals) and narrower like Subiaco.
Yes, so in effect it does present as a stretched Docklands as it's capacity is very similar.
The acutal build is quite different from Docklands.
I don't see the MCG being rebuilt soon so idon't see "trimming" down the MCG as practical and it doesn't have the length to compensate.
I do see Perth Stadium as the model for most cities where a "multi-purpose" stadium is required.
What a boring world if there was no other football than soccer.
Saying you want to be number and crush the opposition is plain stupidity.
Saying (and wanting) you want a strong and healthy competition is good for everyone.
Variety is the spice of life and isn't living in Australia is just great in that regard.
Well that's very sloppy by the ground management.
I didn't notice, probably because i was watching the rugby.
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I mean it’s good bait I guess but wtf
LOL “tiny and meaningless”.
Anyway we shouldn’t contribute further to pathetic “my dad would whup your dad” arguments.
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It never fails to tickle me. In a world where there is so much cachet attached to uniqueness and local variation and colour, the argument those people are making is basically an argument for everyone having to eat McDonalds.
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Pubs are packed and everyone’s tuned in. This is a wake-up call for men’s sport
The Matildas’ widespread popularity has been a wake-up call to those who think women’s sport exists solely to inspire little girls, or appease a female audience.
If we accept that is fact, isn't that the exact reason for promoting indigenous culture, to keep it alive and thriving.
Docklands offers 50k+ crowds in a rectangular format:
Matildas v France • Marvel Stadium • 2023
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Wallabies v British & Irish Lions • Marvel Stadium • 2013
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'AFL only' fans are often confused by that games arrangements over seating where different clubs have different arrangements, none of whom seem aware of their clubs reserved seating.
AFL limitations on competing club members is its most obvious flaw.
Can’t even tell at Perth Stadium that there was an NRL game here yesterday.
Edit, actually if I look really hard I can see the black lines from the English Premier League teams last month.
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the womens soccer world cup is a great event, but every 2nd soccer fan wants to talk about the AFL!!
pretty weird stuff
Obviously that chip on the shoulder never goes away, and many soccer fans, especially the latest generation of aussies, more often than not display a massive cultural cringe, much greater than that of their parents and grand-parents.
The fact is, most of the world is a craphole of a place, and more often than not you really don't want to replicate what most of the world does.
pretty weird stuff
Obviously that chip on the shoulder never goes away, and many soccer fans, especially the latest generation of aussies, more often than not display a massive cultural cringe, much greater than that of their parents and grand-parents.
The fact is, most of the world is a craphole of a place, and more often than not you really don't want to replicate what most of the world does.
So that would make that soccer bloke as a complete joke.
Where soccer supremos don't even know what stadiums are what capacity.
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no, its not.
TV ratings, SoO. They showcase the hold Rugby League has in Queensland. It is not going away anytime.
If you say "look at the junior participation, look at the growth", then you are doing exactly the same as what soccer does all the time. Which goes to my orignal point.
Agreed.
Last night I was having a nice discussion with an ex-Londoner, ex-Brisbane, ex-soccer player saying that he had no interest in the local soccer and had sought out S.O.O and Bledisloe games for some "atmoshpere". He went really strange when I said we get that every week with AFL.
I wouldn't go that far but the reason why the English want soccer to be exclusively called "football" is that soccer is associated with soccer hooliganism etc.
Australians seem to have an additional reason in that NSL was based along ethnic lines.
In your opinion.
To say that any sport is always going to be there is to deny history.
Look at the Lions attendances, the growth of AFL clubs and competitions.
The NRL has done a good job of shoring up strength by admitting the Cowboys and Dolphins whereas AFL has been widespread.
What, close down professional teams ?
I thought your original point was that you didn't get involved in "code wars".
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Participation, membership, sponsorship and attendance. That's what Gill was talking about. Based on the historical data, it is certainly plausible the AFL will be ahead in 4 of the 5 key areas.
Entirely different to the soccer method, which is "participation is good, therefore it's just a matter of time before we dominate in all other facets".
The AFL have the money to burn, soccer does not.
See the 2nd coming of basketball under Larry Kestelman.
Kestelman became interested in basketball as a spectator in the 1990s. He began sponsoring the Melbourne Tigers NBL team in the early 2000s and acquired the team in 2012.
en.wikipedia.org
He does not own rights to international game.
See the 2nd coming of basketball under Larry Kestelman.
Kestelman became interested in basketball as a spectator in the 1990s. He began sponsoring the Melbourne Tigers NBL team in the early 2000s and acquired the team in 2012.
Larry Kestelman - Wikipedia
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I think you nailed it with this one
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I kid you not, I listened Andy Harper in an abc pod cast earlier this year (with Tracey Holmes) assert effectively that Australian football (and rugby league) is a post colonial force strangling Australia's national evolution......which of course is to soccer which will help us engage with east Asian countries where soccer is the dominant sport (i.e. the sport introduced by the former colonial powers from the continent that absorbs 90% of the soccer fan's attention and money)
Yep they cannot get away from the FACT that soccer is a Pommie invented game!
Marvel is NOT a true rectangle stadium even with the seats rolled out on the wings as the seats at both end goals are a still a long way from the action due to the oval shape!
Docklands offers 50k+ crowds in a rectangular format:
ORMatildas v France • Marvel Stadium • 2023
Event information for Matildas v France at Marvel Stadium in 2023 including seating map, tickets, directions, venue details, nearby accommodation and flights.
Wallabies v British & Irish Lions • Marvel Stadium • 2013
Event information for Wallabies v British & Irish Lions at Marvel Stadium in 2013 including seating map, tickets, directions, venue details, nearby accommodation and flights.
'AFL only' fans are often confused by that games arrangements over seating where different clubs have different arrangements, none of whom seem aware of their clubs reserved seating.
Ms Holmes beating her only drum ....
Well congratulations to the new world cup champions - the Diamonds.
Hmm hardly a ripple. Why is that ?
Where's alll the "get behind Australia" jingoism ?
Hmm hardly a ripple. Why is that ?
Where's alll the "get behind Australia" jingoism ?
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