Training 2023 Pre Season

[PoppedCorn]

 

[SaintSteele9]

I don’t think anyone is suggesting he’s no good, or no good as captain…

But he’s only been captain for one full season on his own… to toss him now seems premature at best, and completely bloody illogical at worst.

Personally, I’m not a fan of co-captains, but that’s just me. Also, I figure professional sportspeople don’t particularly need captains… and leaders don’t necessarily need outside recognition either…

But what would I know.

Saw a clip recently of Joel Selwood explaining that Hawkins and Harry Taylor were his two people to lean on for advice and feedback in his frankly ridiculous captaincy tenure. I would bet plenty that Steeley is getting that and more in his early captaincy career, and perhaps moreso with the significant off-field changes undertaken recently.

I’m pumped to see the captain he can still yet become long before diluting his role or even removing him from it.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Narcissists out in force bby pls.
Need to learn humility and judgement free communication, like me

 

[George]

Narcissists out in force bby pls.
Need to learn humility and judgement free communication, like me

Give them a break old mate, it was 37 degrees here today so it's only natural to be a bit on edge after a day in the sweltering heat. I blame climate change for today's arguments. Nasty little thing it is.

 

[stavro#4]

Any track watchers noticed us working on kick outs? Would love to see us doing something different from the Howard short chip to a pocket or bomb to a pack

Lots of Sinclair.

Some Coffield and Hill.

No Dougal, from what I’ve seen in the sims.

Lots of playing on and territory or short and then a handball receive

 

[Mowman]

Ch9 sport last night saying King is out of his sling

 

[stavro#4]

Ch9 sport last night saying King is out of his sling

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I don’t think anyone is suggesting he’s no good, or no good as captain…

But he’s only been captain for one full season on his own… to toss him now seems premature at best, and completely bloody illogical at worst.

Personally, I’m not a fan of co-captains, but that’s just me. Also, I figure professional sportspeople don’t particularly need captains… and leaders don’t necessarily need outside recognition either…

But what would I know.

You’ve sat this one up on a tee.

 

[Diehard Saint]

It’s easier to be seen as a good leader when you have strong leadership above you.

The buck stops with RTB.

All I kept hearing under Ratten was: We couldn’t do this, we didn’t do that. We weren’t ready to play. We need to be better etc

Definitely concentrated on what we couldn’t do as opposed to what we could. Was a lot like Richo in this regard.

If Ross can coach to the positives hopefully the negatives improve too.

 

[Nutsngum]

Ch9 sport last night saying King is out of his sling

He was only shown wearing it last week when doing running from what I was aware.

 

[SaintersUnite]

Obviously Oscar Adams should be Captain you dolts.


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[seasonedsainter]

Obviously Oscar Adams should be Captain you dolts.


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Captain Cordy, come on down!

 

[Barrels]

You’ve sat this one up on a tee.

 

[maanco]

I was talking true CHFs/Key forward, and not just forwards generally.


Heath is tall, but does not have the mobility for CHF. Is also not ready this year

Keeler does and yes is definitely a future CHF option. But is raw and skinny this season.

Membrey is a very good third tall forward, but has not really played as key position forward. Sharma too also looks to be more your third tall type.
Hayes will undersized looks more like a key position type, but at this stage is not proven at AFL level, though he looked very good in his limited gametime.

Now the problem is that if Max is out at any stage, that our current "ready to play" marking forwards are 193cm players. With Max in I think that should work ok, but when Max is out it may not work as well.



Doggies for example have Naughton, Bruce, Lobb and Jamara. Naughton is their runt at only 195cm. Plus English is a very handy when he plays forward. And then they also have the 204cm Sam Darcy to be groomed. So to my way of thinking the Saints are light on for true key forward types. That is not tos ay that Hayes will not make it as a key forward, but if he does I will still regard him as un undersized key forward. Curnow player that height who plays well in the role.ow being an example

The Bulldogs have way more key position forwards than any other club.

Geelong has kpf that are 192cm Hawkins, Cameron, Ratuguola and their ruckman including Bilcavs and Stanley.

 

[CursingFijian]

Marshall is going to be absolutely vital this year. Hearing about him tearing up the track, the thought of getting a full season out of him as the number one ruck is so exciting. He can dominate games in that position.

On the other hand if he goes down we are screwed.

It's a tightrope for sure, and big Max Heath will be holding his breath while Campbell is still getting up to speed.

 

[CursingFijian]

Buckle up, buttercup.

 

[stfan]

Geelong has kpf that are 192cm Hawkins, Cameron, Ratuguola and their ruckman including Bilcavs and Stanley.

KPF at Cats: Neale 204, Hawkins 198, Phoenix Foster 198 Cameron 196,
(At St Kilda we have Max at 204....Cordy at 195, though he has mainly played back and not forward, then Hayes at 193 as well as also at 193 Sharman, Battle . though Battle is really a back now)

Ruck /Forwards Ratuguolea is 198 and Stanley 200
(St Kilda: Marshall 201 , Keeler 198)

I don't believe that the Cats lack for genuine tall forward options. Especially when they have two true key forwards at the top of their game.


Blicavs 198 is more a tall utility who plays ruck, follower, midfield wing, defence....but not really forward.

Other rucks Ceglar 204 and Conway 205.
(St Kilda Campbell 201 Heath 204)

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Buckle up, buttercup.

Time to get the fk outta here

 

[Joffaboy]

Obviously Oscar Adams should be Captain you dolts.


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[MordySaint]

I'm more surprised you came to the conclusion that my post was anything but a joke. I couldn't really give a s**t who the captain is. Whatever works for the players, then do it.

100% agree.

But you have to understand that sarcasm doesn't come across easily on a forum.

Tell me if I'm wrong ... last year the players voted for who they wanted as captain.

Wonder if they will do the same this year or the new coaching panel will select the person who they want.

 

[lewdogs]

100% agree.

But you have to understand that sarcasm doesn't come across easily on a forum.

Tell me if I'm... last year the players voted for who they wanted as captain.

Wonder if they will do the same this year or the new coaching panel will select the person who they want.

I'd be very surprised if Steele isn't captain. Only way would be if he said he doesn't want to do it anymore.

His performances as captain have still been very good. AA 2021, 2022 fairly injury effected but still played really well.

I really doubt Lyon would come in and change the captain straight away.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

There were no questions about Steeley’s captaincy when we were 8-3.

Sounds like he not only busted his shoulder but his leadership ability.

Gee whiz


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[Dr Spaceman]

 

[Sully111]

No time to catch up...

Any news on the captaincy?

 

[sunny3193]