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Vice Captain to out of the leadership group in an off-season is a bit of a kick for Howard
Because he is not a leaders backside.

There is giving strong feedback and holding teammates accountable and then there is how Howard carry’s on.

Never his fault , always someone else’s .
 

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Hey Stavro I absolutely love your passion and commitment for Ross but have you considered what happens in the event the improvement and higher standards isn't enough for this list to rise up the ladder? Have you also considered that there may in fact be numerous players who don't respond to Ross's management style as was the case during his time at Freo? Just seems like you aren't giving yourself any wriggle room.
 
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That drafting was ok apart Clav. Our development has also been simply awful.


I reckon it's horrible. Coming up to 6 years since that draft and Paton is the most accomplished as a GOP. We traded out of the year before to get the two picks and so far both are wait and see not best 22. Coff wasn't best 22 before injury. Clark looks all but gone. Paton was promising early on but now looks a bit meh. Development has been shit too but most of those guys have been given games. Just not been very good yet. If Coffield makes it it will help make it acceptable but if you look at the leg up other clubs got from worse positions in the same draft it was another failed draft.
 
So Steele isn’t?
Wilkie is pretty unique in that he has experienced life outside the system.

He knows it takes a certain effort to get here but then you need to use your time to improve that and lift the bar week on week.

Steele is more a leader among men type. Watch and follow.
 
I reckon it's horrible. Coming up to 6 years since that draft and Paton is the most accomplished as a GOP. We traded out of the year before to get the two picks and so far both are wait and see not best 22. Coff wasn't best 22 before injury. Clark looks all but gone. Paton was promising early on but now looks a bit meh. Development has been s**t too but most of those guys have been given games. Just not been very good yet. If Coffield makes it it will help make it acceptable but if you look at the leg up other clubs got from worse positions in the same draft it was another failed draft.
A bit hard on the Coff & I still blame Roughead for Paton.
This years draft, don't know who the commentator's were, but one guy was so excited by all of our 4 picks. Lets hope we have got it right, the past two drafts.
 
I reckon it's horrible. Coming up to 6 years since that draft and Paton is the most accomplished as a GOP. We traded out of the year before to get the two picks and so far both are wait and see not best 22. Coff wasn't best 22 before injury. Clark looks all but gone. Paton was promising early on but now looks a bit meh. Development has been s**t too but most of those guys have been given games. Just not been very good yet. If Coffield makes it it will help make it acceptable but if you look at the leg up other clubs got from worse positions in the same draft it was another failed draft.
Idk, 2020 Coffield was one of our most exciting players in the last few years he was bordering on best in the league in this position. Had a down year 2021, had a great pre season 2022 summer then got injured and now he’s back. Far from all hope lost.

Same as Clark, in fact Clark/Coffield/Paton all had excellent 2020 seasons. All three have be subjected to either repeat accident injury or long term injury since.

Wouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water on any of them, tho Clark is definitely a watch this space player given how the club tried to offload him last year.
 

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Only those inside the club could know, but Wilkie is definitely the better orator, certainly presents himself and the club better to the public too.
Jack is obviously a lead by example leader, which is not all bad. Don’t think either are a bad option really.
Does the player’s tax returns much better too.
 
I reckon it's horrible. Coming up to 6 years since that draft and Paton is the most accomplished as a GOP. We traded out of the year before to get the two picks and so far both are wait and see not best 22. Coff wasn't best 22 before injury. Clark looks all but gone. Paton was promising early on but now looks a bit meh. Development has been s**t too but most of those guys have been given games. Just not been very good yet. If Coffield makes it it will help make it acceptable but if you look at the leg up other clubs got from worse positions in the same draft it was another failed draft.

We didn't specifically trade into that draft , we shamelessly sold our pick 10 the year before , for the gain of a second and 3rd round pick.
It gave us Battle and Long. ( We traded our own second for Freeman the year before ).
A long time ago now i met Michael Rix at an Auskick clinic , and i was struck by what a ripper bloke he was, so i can see why people really "like " Ben Long, but he was a really crappy pick. "like" does not equal, a sensible pick .

So we got Battle and Long, and we then had as many first round picks as we ever would have , except the year later.

If we'd kept our pick would we have picked Florent?

We were not alone in the 2017 draft , it was pretty hit or miss.
Raynor.
Brayshaw.
Dow ( if i was a Blue, i'd be as disappointed as i am with Clark, perhaps more ).
Davies-Uniacke
Cerra
Stephenson ( Disappointing ).
Clark ( Disappointing ).
Coffield, ( He's been slow to come on, but seems to be moving really nicely at the moment ).
Naughton , the big one that got away, but we'd have cracked up at the time if we'd picked him.
O'Brian, ( Now on the rookie list i think ).
Bonar ( lots of you had a boner for bonar , but it was groundless ).
Fogarty
Brander Gone
Ling VFL
Zac Bailey
Ed Richards
Jack Higgins, you want him, we have him.

It was the second round where some of the teams picked up some really handy players. Our second had gone on Jack Steele.
The really good choices ( Fritsch , Balta , Kelly , DeKoning etc ) had gone by the time we got Clav ( who was rated fairly highly but slid past the "smarter" recruiters, but even then were some decent midfield depth options, Worpel, Constable.
 
Wilkie is pretty unique in that he has experienced life outside the system.

He knows it takes a certain effort to get here but then you need to use your time to improve that and lift the bar week on week.

Steele is more a leader among men type. Watch and follow.
There are plenty of players that have had to come through the back door after missing out. I’m not sure that necessarily makes him a better choice of captain than Steele.

I’m not suggesting he’s not a good leader either, just wonder why the push for him to be captain.

Nothing really stands out to me that suggests he’s be a better captain than Steele. But as has been mentioned, none of us would really know. You’d have to be behind the closed doors to know who the best choice is and clearly the club thinks it’s Steele.
 
I reckon it's horrible. Coming up to 6 years since that draft and Paton is the most accomplished as a GOP. We traded out of the year before to get the two picks and so far both are wait and see not best 22. Coff wasn't best 22 before injury. Clark looks all but gone. Paton was promising early on but now looks a bit meh. Development has been s**t too but most of those guys have been given games. Just not been very good yet. If Coffield makes it it will help make it acceptable but if you look at the leg up other clubs got from worse positions in the same draft it was another failed draft.
Far out Gringo , smashed faces shoulders and ACL’s give these guys a chance.
 
I reckon it's horrible. Coming up to 6 years since that draft and Paton is the most accomplished as a GOP. We traded out of the year before to get the two picks and so far both are wait and see not best 22. Coff wasn't best 22 before injury. Clark looks all but gone. Paton was promising early on but now looks a bit meh. Development has been s**t too but most of those guys have been given games. Just not been very good yet. If Coffield makes it it will help make it acceptable but if you look at the leg up other clubs got from worse positions in the same draft it was another failed draft.
It could well be the case. I'm still bullish on Coff and Pato though.
 
I wouldn’t read a real lot into the Melbourne game. My theory is Ross has just told the boys get out there have a bit of fun have a bit of a run, play your own game and don’t do anything stupid. Spots aren’t in the line yet. Just give us a look at what you got.
 
A bit hard on the Coff & I still blame Roughead for Paton.
This years draft, don't know who the commentator's were, but one guy was so excited by all of our 4 picks. Lets hope we have got it right, the past two drafts.

Our picks all look pretty good this year but only time will tell. You probably need about 4 years to see what you've got unless you hit an absolute freak.

Paton just hasn't really stepped up and looks a like a solid GOP. No shame in that but not likely to make a huge jump now. Coffield had the one good season in 2020. Clark has been unlucky with injury but some limits on his aerobic stamina are starting to show up and he was close to being traded out.

King is by far our best hit at the draft since about 2001.
 
It could well be the case. I'm still bullish on Coff and Pato though.


I'm more bullish on Coffield than the others. Paton was the bet of them early on but hasn't really progressed. Perhaps the leg break has slowed him down a bit.
 

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