Owens leading “next wave” of Saints fast becoming A-graders
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OWENS, THE SAINT GOES MARCHING IN
How is it that a kid who is 19 and who has played only 18 games is almost your team’s most influential barometer?St Kilda has a handful of top-end talents including rising 23-year-old Max King, but what Mitch Owens is doing right now must be warming the hearts of long-suffering Saints fans.
Drafting hasn’t always been the club’s strong suit across the past decade, but the first three picks of the 2021 national draft might be some of the Saints’ best work for quite some time.
They took Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera at pick 11, then had the luxury of taking Next Generation Academy kids and close mates Owens (pick 33) and Marcus Windhager (pick 47).
All three are showing big potential, but Owens’ X-factor, his ability to make something out of nothing and to win one-on-one contests is making him a go-to player for his team.
Mitch Owens has become a crucial player for St Kilda.
He showed that on Thursday night in his first game back after a few weeks off with concussion, having 21 disposals, eight marks (three of them contested), three tackles and 2.2.
Champion Data guru Daniel Hoyne was talking him up as a serious Rising Star contender almost two months ago. We should have listened!
He has now firmed into $7, behind Will Ashcroft ($2) and Harry Sheezel ($2.80), with Gold Coast’s Bailey Humphrey rated as a $15 chance.
Owens was nominated in round 4, but his performances have elevated even more since then and he is gaining on Ashcroft and Sheezel.
Wasn't Owens the number 1 contested player or forward in league? But they say that only now he's gaining on those two?? I would've thought Owens was ahead and only extending his lead.
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He's gaining some momentum with the media after Thursday. It just takes them longer to recognise since he wasn't considered one of the favourite before the season started.
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His contested numbers are through the roof for a forward. Petracca hovered around the same for a few years before moving into the midfield.
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Where's Daicos in the odds? Can't he win it anymore?OWENS, THE SAINT GOES MARCHING IN
How is it that a kid who is 19 and who has played only 18 games is almost your team’s most influential barometer?
St Kilda has a handful of top-end talents including rising 23-year-old Max King, but what Mitch Owens is doing right now must be warming the hearts of long-suffering Saints fans.
Drafting hasn’t always been the club’s strong suit across the past decade, but the first three picks of the 2021 national draft might be some of the Saints’ best work for quite some time.
They took Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera at pick 11, then had the luxury of taking Next Generation Academy kids and close mates Owens (pick 33) and Marcus Windhager (pick 47).
All three are showing big potential, but Owens’ X-factor, his ability to make something out of nothing and to win one-on-one contests is making him a go-to player for his team.
Mitch Owens has become a crucial player for St Kilda.
He showed that on Thursday night in his first game back after a few weeks off with concussion, having 21 disposals, eight marks (three of them contested), three tackles and 2.2.
Champion Data guru Daniel Hoyne was talking him up as a serious Rising Star contender almost two months ago. We should have listened!
He has now firmed into $7, behind Will Ashcroft ($2) and Harry Sheezel ($2.80), with Gold Coast’s Bailey Humphrey rated as a $15 chance.
Owens was nominated in round 4, but his performances have elevated even more since then and he is gaining on Ashcroft and Sheezel.
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He won it last year.
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Oh, seems everything I've read was pitting Daicos against Owens. Don't know why they're mentioning him anymore.
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Think you're talking about this. The CD system has an over par type of system and he was above the Brownlow favourite for how much over expected rating for age and position he's playing.
Like when Sinclair was considered elite as a wing but sent to Sandringham the next season, their system rates you in a position. He is rated at a KPF. He plays more as a high half forward who has licence to move up the field so his possession count looks much higher than mosts stay at home tall forwards and he's an excellent contested player which means that those numbers are higher than most KPs who wear a tall defender.
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“I just wanted to talk about this about guy in a bigger picture sense.”
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He's an exceptional young talent but that CD thing needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
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I was intrigued about how he said that Ross can be difficult to manage, but that’s the trade off for someone of his calibre.
Reading between the lines though it sounds like Waldron is more in the Butters camp than the GT one. Interesting about Butters putting hundreds of thousands of his own dollars in to pay the players.
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Yeah that's it!Think you're talking about this. The CD system has an over par type of system and he was above the Brownlow favourite for how much over expected rating for age and position he's playing.
Like when Sinclair was considered elite as a wing but sent to Sandringham the next season, their system rates you in a position. He is rated at a KPF. He plays more as a high half forward who has licence to move up the field so his possession count looks much higher than mosts stay at home tall forwards and he's an excellent contested player which means that those numbers are higher than most KPs who wear a tall defender.
“Never seen a number like that”: The stats that have young Saint in rare air
“I just wanted to talk about this about guy in a bigger picture sense.”
He's an exceptional young talent but that CD thing needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
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In today's HS Brereton said Owens is the perfect mid forward hybrid and would be the number one player he would pay massive overs to to get him to move clubs.
Glad he's signed for another couple of years.
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Reminds me of you and you thinking that your 2005 ladder was current day, champion
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Inside the 2021 draft: How the Saints landed Mitch Owens
St Kilda’s recent history is filled with the players they should have drafted and the high-priced recruits they should have dodged.
From Dan Hannebery’s megabucks deal to Billings-over-Bontempelli and McCartin-over-Petracca, it makes for grim reading.
Finally as St Kilda’s young fleet of impressive kids take centre stage it is their rivals wondering about the one that got away.
It wasn’t just that Mitchito Owens was available to every club before Sydney finally bid on the next generation academy product and forced St Kilda to match the No.33 selection in the 2021 national draft.
St Kilda actually had to wait until he drifted out of the top 20 selections to be eligible to recruit Owens under the NGA rules of the time.
Those rules disallowed Melbourne from matching a bid on its NGA product Mac Andrew, snapped up by Gold Coast at pick 5.
A year later in the 2022 national draft clubs could only match bids on their NGA kids after the first 40 draft selections.
As draft day dawned in 2021 St Kilda knew of interest from clubs like Greater Western Sydney, which had mid-teens picks and strong interest in Owens.
Available to St Kilda given his mother’s Japanese heritage, the 191cm utility had surged up the draft order in 2021 with three strong games for Sandringham before Covid shut the season down.
His last contest against North Ballarat in round 15 saw him peeling off 25 possessions, seven tackles and 13 contested possessions.
As Sandringham talent manager Mark Wheeler told the Herald sun leading into the draft: “He is now a genuine midfielder who can go both ways. His hands above his head are unbelievable and he is brave. He might even be silly brave.”
Yet those recruiters looked elsewhere and some of those picks also look inspired, including Brisbane’s Darcy Wilmot (pick 16), and Melbourne’s Jacob Van Rooyen (pick 19).
St Kilda took the silky Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera with pick 11, Owens slipped all the way to 33 (St Kilda matched) and then they matched a Geelong bid for fellow NGA teen Marcus Windhager at pick 47.
After his latest brilliant performance against Sydney – two goals, 21 touches, 116 SuperCoach points, 12 contested possessions – he is now into $7 for the Rising Star award
AFL great Dermott Brereton coached his older brother Kai Owens before he played VFL with Frankston and cannot help but rave about Mitch’s potential.
“He is that perfect hybrid pseudo third key tall. He is that Jack Gunston-style hybrid marking option,” Brereton said.
“If someone like Patrick Dangerfield is a 70-30 onballer midfielder, he is the reverse – 70 per cent forward, 30 per cent midfielder. A really good body-on-body player who can take an overhead mark with a great leap. His opponents can’t get him in one-on-one in the forward line, he is good at ground level and he has the ability to chase, tackle and harass.
“He is as close to the prototype of the hybrid tall forward as you would want. I just think he’s a super player. And in fact if there was one player you would want to prise out of a team and pay him way overs right now, he would be my No.1.
“This kid can take pack marks, he can hold his own against absolute true backmen and he can play as a ground level forward. He is the quintessential hybrid.”
Luckily for St Kilda, Owens is locked away until 2025. Wanganeen-Milera registered a career-high 30 possessions against Sydney as Windhager also returned to the senior team.
St Kilda will still have its share of hits and misses in coming years but that trio along with this year’s No.10 selection Mattaes Phillipou are the nucleus of the rebuild will sustain Saints fans for a decade.
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There’s really about Owens’ game that resembles Jack Gunston. Really strange observation.
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