2024 AFL Awards Season... + Brownlow

[Seeds]

He wasn’t AA in 2020 either - so his AA run has already been interrupted

Thats only cos he missed 4 games in a row to injury that year in a shortened covid year. Was a lock for all australian in 2020 if not for injury.

This is the first year where form was what stopped him. Although the positional shift to midfield half way through the season didnt help as he didnt have a clear defensive post.

 

[catstorm]

umm...... its about the player, not the team.
And if you haven't noticed the ladder went berserk all year.

Umm, if you finish 10th and lost the last 4 games of the year it’s pretty ****ing obvious you don’t have 5 players in the best 40 in the league.

Ummm maybe they should evaluate the metrics they use to decide. And ummmmmm maybe look at what players are doing in those top sides to make them top sides. Ummmmmmmmmmm instead of just looking at players getting cheap touches but not contributing to winning. Um……

 

[cats_09]

 

[CHAWKTS]

It's that time of year again and with what seems like a dozen plus awards it seems to work with keeping discussion in a centralised location

Yesterday it was the announcement of the AA Squad with Jezza, Holmes & Stengle named in the original 40 man squad

Today it's the nominees for the AFLPA Awards; Jezza Cameron, Max Holmes & Tom Stewart have been recognised by their peers for their 2024 seasons by being nominated for the AFL Players Most Valuable Player Award.

The winner of the coveted prize will be announced on Thursday 29 August.




I know there's already been thread a thread discussing the AA Squad - I'm merging it in here to have all this talk centralised to one, easily locatable thread

Assume these nominations come from the club (I know best first year player does). If so does this confirm that these three are leading out Carji?

 

[cats_09]

Assume these nominations come from the club (I know best first year player does). If so does this confirm that these three are leading out Carji?

They may be leading the Carji, but I wouldn't connect the AFLPA nominations with the Carji award - don't forget that with the Carji it's voted by the coaches

The AFLPA MVP is purely player voting:

Voting for the AFLPA awards is a two-stage process, with players nominating their teammates in stage one before selecting from a competition-wide field in stage two.

The awards involve AFLPA MVP, Most Courageous, Best First Year Player and Best Captain.


Our AFLPA MVP nominations last year were Blicavs (6th in Carji), Miers (3rd in Carji) & Stewart (Carji winner)

So there may be some alignment, but I wouldn't read too much into it

 

[CHAWKTS]

Oh…forgot about it being a player vote….that makes more sense to me.


By the way have they announced who the best first year player was for Cats? Assume it was Humphries?

They may be leading the Carji, but I wouldn't connect the AFLPA nominations with the Carji award - don't forget that with the Carji it's voted by the coaches

The AFLPA MVP is purely player voting:

Voting for the AFLPA awards is a two-stage process, with players nominating their teammates in stage one before selecting from a competition-wide field in stage two.

The awards involve AFLPA MVP, Most Courageous, Best First Year Player and Best Captain.


Our AFLPA MVP nominations last year were Blicavs (6th in Carji), Miers (3rd in Carji) & Stewart (Carji winner)

So there may be some alignment, but I wouldn't read too much into it

 

[kickazz]

There are some shockers. Some absolute shockers. From Geelong alone Cameron should not be in the squad, Joe Danniher, Jason Horne Francis, cam rayner, Brent Daniels. Some genuinely horrible selections

Yeah Cameron has been too up and down to be in the squad.

If consistency matters I would say Zac Guthrie would be a better choice from Geelong. Especially when you factor in the handicap that was our clearances/midfield debacle in several games this year.

 

[Mr Meow]

Yeah Cameron has been too up and down to be in the squad.

If consistency matters I would say Zac Guthrie would be a better choice from Geelong. Especially when you factor in the handicap that was our clearances/midfield debacle in several games this year.

A lot in the AA thread on main board have him in their first 22 now. And given they usually avoid putting Cats players in unless they're impossible to ignore, that says his overall hype may sneak him in.

Cameron, relative to his immense talents, has had another year you could call frustrating. He's had maybe half a dozen stinkers and then another handful where he got a lot right but his conversion was haphazard. His top end games were fantastic and he's managed to churn out impressive numbers, but a basic eye test from most Cats fans wouldn't have him in.

Having the old last game bag always helps, as we saw with Larkey last year.

It'll be interesting to see what happens.

 

[cats_09]

Most running AA teams I’ve seen throughout the season & then even post season ones have included Cameron - maybe the discussion around here is because we can at times be harder on our own players than we can be when viewing the seasons of those from other teams

Jezza had more shots on goal than any other forward - with improved accuracy, he may well have been this years Coleman medalist

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Umm, if you finish 10th and lost the last 4 games of the year it’s pretty ****ing obvious you don’t have 5 players in the best 40 in the league.

Ummm maybe they should evaluate the metrics they use to decide. And ummmmmm maybe look at what players are doing in those top sides to make them top sides. Ummmmmmmmmmm instead of just looking at players getting cheap touches but not contributing to winning. Um……

Or they have 5 quality players and Longmuir should be sacked... Or the rest are spuds.
No issues with us having less, we generally get uncompromising buy in and even contributions from all in the team.

Champion team vs team of champions debate and all that.

 

[Mr Meow]

Most running AA teams I’ve seen throughout the season & then even post season ones have included Cameron - maybe the discussion around here is because we can at times be harder on our own players than we can be when viewing the seasons of those from other teams

Jezza had more shots on goal than any other forward - with improved accuracy, he may well have been this years Coleman medalist

I agree, that if he had good accuracy he'd be a walk up selection - even with the bad games. Going around 50%, including some of the absolute sodas he missed, really does cost you which is why we are harsh. We're talking about a player that could still be top 3 in the comp if playing at his absolute best all year.

What is undeniable is he is involved with a ridiculous amount of goal scoring chances and gets plenty of the footy in between. Even when he is haywire enough damage is done for opposition to view him as one of the biggest threats in the comp.

 

[cats_09]

CHAWKTS

 

[Gunf]

CHAWKTS

From that list

Reid, Lawson, Caddy and Thomas would be my top4 (not in order)

 

[CHAWKTS]

CHAWKTS

I suspect Reid wins in a landslide...

 

[cats_09]

Not sure why I didn't post this here:

When will the AFL All-Australian 2024 be announced?

The 2024 AFL All-Australian team will be confirmed at the AFL Awards Night on Thursday, August 29.

The AFL Awards will also see the announcement of AFLCA Champion Player of the Year, AFLPA MVP, AFL Rising Star, AFLCA Best Young Player, AFLPA Best Captain, AFLPA Most Courageous and AFLPA Best First Year Player.

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Anyone want to have a stab at the various award winners:

• AFLCA Champion Player of the Year:
• AFLCA Best Young Player (remember this is based on the collation of the past 2 seasons AFLCA votes):

• AFLPA MVP:
• AFLPA Best Captain:
• AFLPA Most Courageous:
• AFLPA Best First Year Player:

• AFL Rising Star:

If anyone wants to take a guess at the AA Team also, go ahead but I thought just these awards would be a bit easier to look at

 

[cats_09]

• AFLCA Champion Player of the Year: Patrick Cripps
  9

  Patrick Cripps

  Age

  29

  Ht

  195cm

  Wt

  93kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  25.9

  5star

  K

  9.8

  4star

  HB

  16.1

  5star

  M

  3.4

  3star

  T

  5.8

  5star

  CL

  7.4

  5star

  D

  21.0

  5star

  K

  10.1

  4star

  HB

  10.9

  5star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  3.8

  4star

  CL

  6.3

  5star

  D

  12.6

  4star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  7.8

  5star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  3.2

  5star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

• AFLCA Best Young Player (remember this is based on the collation of the past 2 seasons AFLCA votes): Harry Sheezel

• AFLPA MVP: Isaac Heeney
  5

  Isaac Heeney

  Age

  28

  Ht

  185cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  18.2

  5star

  K

  10.4

  4star

  HB

  7.7

  5star

  M

  4.9

  5star

  T

  4.1

  5star

  CL

  2.2

  4star

  D

  14.3

  3star

  K

  8.8

  4star

  HB

  5.5

  3star

  M

  4.8

  4star

  T

  2.5

  3star

  CL

  0.8

  3star

  D

  10.4

  3star

  K

  7.2

  3star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.4

  4star

  CL

  0.8

  3star

• AFLPA Best Captain: James Sicily
  6

  James Sicily

  Age

  29

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  90kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  18.3

  5star

  K

  12.7

  5star

  HB

  5.7

  4star

  M

  6.3

  5star

  T

  1.5

  3star

  MG

  365.0

  5star

  D

  19.4

  4star

  K

  14.3

  5star

  HB

  5.1

  3star

  M

  5.9

  5star

  T

  1.0

  2star

  MG

  437.4

  5star

  D

  10.0

  3star

  K

  6.0

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  4.2

  4star

  T

  2.0

  4star

  MG

  173.8

  3star

• AFLPA Most Courageous: Tommy Atkins
• AFLPA Best First Year Player: Harley Reid

• AFL Rising Star: Ollie Dempsey

 

[cats_09]

In case you're unaware of this seasons captains

 

[Gunf]

• AFLCA Champion Player of the Year: Patrick Cripps
• AFLCA Best Young Player (remember this is based on the collation of the past 2 seasons AFLCA votes): Harry Sheezel

• AFLPA MVP: Isaac Heeney
• AFLPA Best Captain: James Sicily
• AFLPA Most Courageous: waiting nominees & will update
• AFLPA Best First Year Player: Harley Reid

• AFL Rising Star: Ollie Dempsey

I agree with everything but i would have Merret or Bont as best Captain

 

[cats_09]

I agree with everything but i would have Merret or Bont as best Captain

The captaincy was the one I most debated, but what swayed my decision is that Carlton & Bulldogs were always expected to be competitive this year, but not Hawthorn - feels like it could be recognition for the season they've had which may well have surprised a few

 

[CHAWKTS]

• AFLCA Champion Player of the Year: Patrick Cripps
• AFLCA Best Young Player (remember this is based on the collation of the past 2 seasons AFLCA votes): Harry Sheezel

• AFLPA MVP: Isaac Heeney
• AFLPA Best Captain: James Sicily
• AFLPA Most Courageous: waiting nominees & will update
• AFLPA Best First Year Player: Harley Reid

• AFL Rising Star: Ollie Dempsey

I agree with most...
Only different guesses from me would be..

MVP: Cribs
Best Captain: Bont
(I could actually swap those two awards and names!)

 

[Chinacats]

And thus the legendary run of tom stewart in the all australian team ends

Thank Kenny for that! He gets his chance at retribution…. Over to you Tommy!

 

[Chinacats]

So let me get this right the team in 1st has 4 the teams 2-4 each have 3 but somehow the team in 5th gets 5 the team in 8th has 4 and the team in god damn 10th has 5.

****ing unreal.

What’s the ladder got to do with it?

 

[Chinacats]

• AFLCA Champion Player of the Year: Patrick Cripps
• AFLCA Best Young Player (remember this is based on the collation of the past 2 seasons AFLCA votes): Harry Sheezel

• AFLPA MVP: Isaac Heeney
• AFLPA Best Captain: James Sicily
• AFLPA Most Courageous: waiting nominees & will update
• AFLPA Best First Year Player: Harley Reid

• AFL Rising Star: Ollie Dempsey

Sicily best captain…. Haha

 

[Chinacats]

Lachie Neale

9

Lachie Neale

Age

31

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

is the best player in the AFL, so he should be cleaning up …. If not then Bontempelli would be a good choice.
Ollie for rising star !

 

[cats_09]

Most courageous nominations are up




Is it wrong I want my Cats bias to show and it be Axe