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2023 AFLPA AWARDS
AFLPA Best First Year Player – Harry Sheezel (North Melbourne)AFLPA Most Courageous – Zak Butters (Port Adelaide)
AFLPA Best Captain – Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)
AFLPA MVP – Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)
Best First Year Player Award
1 – Harry Sheezel
2 – Will Ashcroft
3 – Oliver Hollands
4 – Max Michalanney
5 – Bailey Humphrey
Robert Rose Award (Most Courageous)
1 – Zak Butters
2 – Tom Liberatore
3 – Jack Viney
4 – Liam Baker
5 – Brayden Maynard
Best Captain
1 – Marcus Bontempelli
2 – Toby Greene
3 – Darcy Moore
4 – Jordan Dawson
5 – Patrick Cripps
Leigh Matthews Trophy (MVP)
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2 – Nick Daicos
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4 – Toby Greene
5 – Christian Petracca
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What a champion!#44 named back pocket in AA team
Five time AA!
Bloody hell he's gonna be the equal of Enright before his career is done - if not surpass him!
7 years in the system and 5 AA's, is just nuts. He'll play 'til he's 35+ given his late entry into the system, so 8 AA's is not out of the question.
Incredible, just in awe of this man
7 years in the system and 5 AA's, is just nuts. He'll play 'til he's 35+ given his late entry into the system, so 8 AA's is not out of the question.
Incredible, just in awe of this man
Quick reminder that Tom Stewart made his AFL debut at the age of 24. He's had 5 or 6 less years in the system than his contemporaries of the same age. For him to have accumulated 5 All Australians by the age of 30 is insane.
He has already surpassed enright.Bloody hell he's gonna be the equal of Enright before his career is done - if not surpass him!
7 years in the system and 5 AA's, is just nuts. He'll play 'til he's 35+ given his late entry into the system, so 8 AA's is not out of the question.
Incredible, just in awe of this man
enright 6 all australians in 16 years. once from the pine.
stewart 5 all australians in 7 years ( And stewart only missed out on 2020 cos he was injured and missed 5 weeks in a covid shortened season). always in the starting team.
stewart can dominate games like enright could not
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I didn’t come to a conclusion with Miers/Breust, I simply repeated Ling’s question.
The point of my post was to show there were others way ahead of both Miers and Breust.
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He only missed 4 games across two periods in 2020 - 23% of games
In 2021 he missed 5 games across two periods due to illness and suspension - 22% of games
Maybe it wasn't the games missed in 2020 which cost him selection, maybe he just didn't warrant selection that season
I also think this board needs to stop comparing Enright & Stewart as players as they're different styles of players - they're complementary in style and not competing for the same spot in the team. So completely disagree that Stewart has surpassed Enright
Exactly. They are different players.
We've always had very good half back flankers, going back decades. Tons of best and fairest winners too (Ray Card, Mark Bos among others). I still hold Enright as the gold standard but there have been plenty of good ones.
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Congratulations to Tommy Stewart for his 5th AA in 7 years. Maybe a change to captain will be on the cards after Paddy’s dismal year??
Bont voted best player & captain by his peers , yet not captain of AA team because dogs didn’t make finals?
Libba and Dusty should’ve been in!
Bont voted best player & captain by his peers , yet not captain of AA team because dogs didn’t make finals?
Libba and Dusty should’ve been in!
If anything Enright was more of your classic half back flanker, aggressive between the arcs and while he locked down on players successfully, in an offensive sense he almost performed as a wingman.
Stewart is more of a rebounding back pocket - not a 1v1 specialist but essentially focussing on the ball on those final passes inside 50. Their respective rebound 50 numbers back that up.
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With a question mark…
Its because the AA team, like the Brownlow, is being voted on by the wrong people. The AA is selected by people in the team selecting "their guys" which is how every year we often see players in wrong positions. This year is one of the first years in a long time where most of the team actually plays where they should (they even picked wingers on the wings, imagine my ****ing shock).
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From SEN:
B: Gavin Wanganeen (ESS, PA) / Matthew Scarlett (GEE) / Tom Stewart (GEE)
HB: Andrew McKay (CAR) / Alex Rance (RIC) / Corey Enright (GEE)
C: Peter Matera (WCE) / Scott West (WB) / Nathan Buckley (BRI, COL)
HF: Patrick Dangerfield (ADE, GEE) / Wayne Carey (NM, ADE) / Lance Franklin (HAW, SYD)
F: Brad Johnson (WB) / Tom Hawkins (GEE) / Eddie Betts (CAR, ADE)
FOL: Dean Cox (WCE) / Robert Harvey (STK) / Gary Ablett Jnr (GEE, GCS)
I/C: Mark Ricciuto (ADE) / Scott Pendlebury (COL) / Max Gawn (MEL) / Matthew Pavlich (FRE)
Honourable mentions: Six-time selectees Joel Selwood, Ben Cousins, Chris Judd and James Hird are the unlucky quartet to miss out.
We couldn’t pick them all.
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THE ULTIMATE ALL-AUSTRALIAN TEAM: HOW WE SELECTED THE BEST 22
With All-Australian chat all the rage right now, we decided to undertake an experiment.
We wanted to pull together the Ultimate All-Australian team.
In order to do this, we needed some rules regarding eligibility, so here they are:
At full-back is Geelong champion Matthew Scarlett (6) who was named in that position four times while landing a back pocket slot twice.
Geelong’s Tom Stewart (5) now also has a handful of back pocket selections after being named there again on Wednesday night.
One half-back slot goes to Carlton’s Andrew McKay (4) who was named there in each of his four selections.
This is where we needed to get a little bit creative as the most a person has been named at centre half-back is twice. With that being the case, we deferred to the next best full-back who is Richmond’s Alex Rance (5). He was centre half-back once but full-black four times. He gets the nod ever so slightly over Carlton legend Stephen Silvagni (5)because he was once named captain.
No player has been named on the half-back flank more than twice, so the other half-back position lies with Corey Enright (6) who was half-back flank only once but was back pocket on four occasions. He was also named on the bench once.
Western Bulldogs favourite Scott West (5) takes the centre after three selections there plus one on the wing and one as rover.
Collingwood legend Nathan Buckley (7) lands on the other wing as one of several players who were named there twice. His seven overall selections include two at half-back, one in the centre, one at ruck-over and one as rover.
(And let’s face it, the AA selectors don’t always choose two specialist wingers).
Comfortably at centre half-forward is North Melbourne great Wayne Carey (7) who was named there in each of his seven selections.
On the other flank is Lance Franklin (8) who has made it by pure weight of numbers. He is one of only five players with eight All-Australian blazers so must be included. He was named at centre half-forward on five occasions and at full-forward three times.
In one forward pocket is Western Bulldogs champion Brad Johnson (6) who was named there three times as well as once on a wing, once at half-forward and once on the bench.
The full-forward slot will be taken by Geelong’s Tom Hawkins (5) who was named there four times, centre half-forward once and was also once named the captain.
The other forward pocket is for Eddie Betts (3) as a specialist small forward after three selections in that position.
The ruck-rover is St Kilda great Robert Harvey (8) who landed five nods in that particular position as well as one as rover, one at half-forward and one on the bench.
Taking the rover position unanimously is Gary Ablett Jnr (8) with all of his eight selections in that role.
They will be joined by Max Gawn (6) who was also named ruck four times, but missed out on a starting spot because Cox was named on the field on one more occasion.
Fremantle’s Matthew Pavlich (6) is a victim of his own versatility in that he was named in five different positions for his six selections.
We had to leave some gun midfielders out for team balance.
The Ultimate All-Australian team
(Since 1991)B: Gavin Wanganeen (ESS, PA) / Matthew Scarlett (GEE) / Tom Stewart (GEE)
HB: Andrew McKay (CAR) / Alex Rance (RIC) / Corey Enright (GEE)
C: Peter Matera (WCE) / Scott West (WB) / Nathan Buckley (BRI, COL)
HF: Patrick Dangerfield (ADE, GEE) / Wayne Carey (NM, ADE) / Lance Franklin (HAW, SYD)
F: Brad Johnson (WB) / Tom Hawkins (GEE) / Eddie Betts (CAR, ADE)
FOL: Dean Cox (WCE) / Robert Harvey (STK) / Gary Ablett Jnr (GEE, GCS)
I/C: Mark Ricciuto (ADE) / Scott Pendlebury (COL) / Max Gawn (MEL) / Matthew Pavlich (FRE)
Honourable mentions: Six-time selectees Joel Selwood, Ben Cousins, Chris Judd and James Hird are the unlucky quartet to miss out.
We couldn’t pick them all.
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THE ULTIMATE ALL-AUSTRALIAN TEAM: HOW WE SELECTED THE BEST 22
With All-Australian chat all the rage right now, we decided to undertake an experiment.
We wanted to pull together the Ultimate All-Australian team.
In order to do this, we needed some rules regarding eligibility, so here they are:
- Only players who made an All-Australian team in the AFL era (1991 onwards) are eligible.
- Players will be selected in the position they have been selected in the most, unless there is a tiebreaker.
- Most total AA selections and most times chosen in that area of the ground is the first tiebreaker.
- Being named captain is the next tiebreaker.
- Selectors (us) get to make a final call to include multiple AA selectees who we feel deserve to be in.
- Selectors (us) have a tiny bit of creative licence to ensure the team is somewhat balanced.
Defenders
Essendon and Port Adelaide great Gavin Wanganeen (5) takes one back pocket spot having been named there on five occasions.At full-back is Geelong champion Matthew Scarlett (6) who was named in that position four times while landing a back pocket slot twice.
Geelong’s Tom Stewart (5) now also has a handful of back pocket selections after being named there again on Wednesday night.
One half-back slot goes to Carlton’s Andrew McKay (4) who was named there in each of his four selections.
This is where we needed to get a little bit creative as the most a person has been named at centre half-back is twice. With that being the case, we deferred to the next best full-back who is Richmond’s Alex Rance (5). He was centre half-back once but full-black four times. He gets the nod ever so slightly over Carlton legend Stephen Silvagni (5)because he was once named captain.
No player has been named on the half-back flank more than twice, so the other half-back position lies with Corey Enright (6) who was half-back flank only once but was back pocket on four occasions. He was also named on the bench once.
Centre/Wings
On one wing is West Coast’s Peter Matera (5) who was named there three times plus twice on the half-back flank. He is a genuine specialist winger.Western Bulldogs favourite Scott West (5) takes the centre after three selections there plus one on the wing and one as rover.
Collingwood legend Nathan Buckley (7) lands on the other wing as one of several players who were named there twice. His seven overall selections include two at half-back, one in the centre, one at ruck-over and one as rover.
(And let’s face it, the AA selectors don’t always choose two specialist wingers).
Forwards
Geelong captain Patrick Dangerfield (8), despite spending most of his playing days as a midfielder, has been named as a half-forward on five occasions plus twice as ruck-rover and once as rover.Comfortably at centre half-forward is North Melbourne great Wayne Carey (7) who was named there in each of his seven selections.
On the other flank is Lance Franklin (8) who has made it by pure weight of numbers. He is one of only five players with eight All-Australian blazers so must be included. He was named at centre half-forward on five occasions and at full-forward three times.
In one forward pocket is Western Bulldogs champion Brad Johnson (6) who was named there three times as well as once on a wing, once at half-forward and once on the bench.
The full-forward slot will be taken by Geelong’s Tom Hawkins (5) who was named there four times, centre half-forward once and was also once named the captain.
The other forward pocket is for Eddie Betts (3) as a specialist small forward after three selections in that position.
Followers
West Coast’s Dean Cox (6) is the starting ruckman for four selections in that position plus one in the forward pocket and one on the bench.The ruck-rover is St Kilda great Robert Harvey (8) who landed five nods in that particular position as well as one as rover, one at half-forward and one on the bench.
Taking the rover position unanimously is Gary Ablett Jnr (8) with all of his eight selections in that role.
Interchange
Mark Ricciuto (8) and Scott Pendlebury (6) are the mids who were named on the interchange bench the most with four each.They will be joined by Max Gawn (6) who was also named ruck four times, but missed out on a starting spot because Cox was named on the field on one more occasion.
Fremantle’s Matthew Pavlich (6) is a victim of his own versatility in that he was named in five different positions for his six selections.
We had to leave some gun midfielders out for team balance.
Not many players make it missing 5 games in a season. But he was sensational when he played last year and snuck in because he was too good to leave out. he wasnt quite as good in 2020 but if he played 90 plus percent of the season he still would of made the team most likely.
Slightly off topic, but I reckon Best Clubman should be the David Mensch award. Hear me out.
A mensch, in Yiddish, is a person of integrity, morality, dignity, with a sense of what is right and responsible. But mensch is more than just an old Yiddish adage. "To be a mensch is to be supportive. To be a friend, to be calm in troubled times." From Home 2018
Geelong might be the greatest team of all, but we're the only team to have a Mensch. Actually I reckon we have a team and a supporter group full of mensches.
A mensch, in Yiddish, is a person of integrity, morality, dignity, with a sense of what is right and responsible. But mensch is more than just an old Yiddish adage. "To be a mensch is to be supportive. To be a friend, to be calm in troubled times." From Home 2018
Geelong might be the greatest team of all, but we're the only team to have a Mensch. Actually I reckon we have a team and a supporter group full of mensches.
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