Preview 2024 AFL Draft General Discussion

[buttermuffs]

He's excellent below his knee's, if not freakish for his size. If he wasn't, he wouldn't be half the player he is at almost 6"5. His agility for his size is also close to unmatched, that includes Bont, Cripps and Green.

Now, he did fumble on the weekend at times, but it's not a hanging offence to do it in one game or two games.

You have touched on some of his perceived weakness, he's not a marking threat as a junior, which is a big query given his height.

He's also more of a second receiver rather than a Patrick Cripps pure contested animal. LDU had a statistical model like this also at u/18 level.

You have cited body strength in the contest as a major weakness.

I've spoken to two national scouts in person about him that said entirely the opposite on this point. They view it as a positive. He has ALOT of physical development to come with his frame.

If he was doing the complete opposite here and dominating kids purely through body size and strength, im sure he would be labelled a man child. You can't win sometimes with someone his size.

The second receiver style of play isn't necessarily an enormous weakness either. It's normally an aspect of an inside ball winner that is hardest to teach and some of the best ones in the history of the game almost never are able to impact in possession chains on the spread like Smillie is as a junior.

Now, he almost needs to be taught how to use his physical gifts more to his advantage and to stay inside the coal face longer at the next level, instead of spreading and looking to link up. Again, an unusual process.

He's a very unique prospect for his size that has some very abnormal strengths and weakeness' for his body size, this could be viewed as a positive or a negative, it's in the eye of the beholder.


FOS is not without his own queries.

Can I ask your opinion on Levi Ashcroft Sphynx? I saw a comment of yours on the North board about Logan Morris last year, and he turning out to be very promising in the same way you described. Curious to know your thoughts on Levi.

 

[bulldogs201616]

Almost becoming a better draft for talls than mids

I think Smilie, J.Smith, Moreas and Ashcroft are all sliding back from where they were 10 months ago

Smilie statistically still pretty good (i havnt watched) but lead some of CPs, SI, Clearances

Abit harsh on Smith. He has dominated the last month

 

[marcmurphy3]

Abit harsh on Smith. He has dominated the last month

You'd think he would be a short priced favourite for the Larke Medal right now. Couldn't be doing much more.

 

[eaglespremiers]

You'd think he would be a short priced favourite for the Larke Medal right now. Couldn't be doing much more.

At the very least should be rated at or above Sanders level from last year IMO.

 

[Keystone agony]

At the very least should be rated at or above Sanders level from last year IMO.

Sanders has the size that jagga doesnt

Its a really tiny frame, be interesting to see what he becomes

Although he has agility which i think is the most underated skillset atm

 

[THE_GUN]

He's excellent below his knee's, if not freakish for his size. If he wasn't, he wouldn't be half the player he is at almost 6"5. His agility for his size is also close to unmatched, that includes Bont, Cripps and Green.

Now, he did fumble on the weekend at times, but it's not a hanging offence to do it in one game or two games.

You have touched on some of his perceived weakness, he's not a marking threat as a junior, which is a big query given his height.

He's also more of a second receiver rather than a Patrick Cripps pure contested animal. LDU had a statistical model like this also at u/18 level.

You have cited body strength in the contest as a major weakness.

I've spoken to two national scouts in person about him that said entirely the opposite on this point. They view it as a positive. He has ALOT of physical development to come with his frame.

If he was doing the complete opposite here and dominating kids purely through body size and strength, im sure he would be labelled a man child. You can't win sometimes with someone his size.

The second receiver style of play isn't necessarily an enormous weakness either. It's normally an aspect of an inside ball winner that is hardest to teach and some of the best ones in the history of the game almost never are able to impact in possession chains on the spread like Smillie is as a junior.

Now, he almost needs to be taught how to use his physical gifts more to his advantage and to stay inside the coal face longer at the next level, instead of spreading and looking to link up. Again, an unusual process.

He's a very unique prospect for his size that has some very abnormal strengths and weakeness' for his body size, this could be viewed as a positive or a negative, it's in the eye of the beholder.


FOS is not without his own queries.

Whats his speed and tank like compared to some of the top liners in past years

 

[Sphynx]

Whats his speed and tank like compared to some of the top liners in past years

3.093
720 YoYo.

Both excellent for a guy his size

 

[Sphynx]

Sanders has the size that jagga doesnt

Its a really tiny frame, be interesting to see what he becomes

Although he has agility which i think is the most underated skillset atm

Actually tested poorly in the CTL preseason agility test.

He has underrated speed (2.990) and a big engine (840)

 

[Freezin]

Reckon this moment was a little underappreciated. Jono Brown-like mark from Hugh Boxshall.

Initially thought it was Kenny Hunteresque like TBH

 

[Futbolista]

I know Urquhart does butcher the ball at times but in fairness to him, the way he plays - which is first hands on the ball at stoppage he's always going to have a player hanging off him and be under pressure.

Nevertheless, his hunger for the ball and his ability to bust his way past tacklers must make a top 15-20 pick now.

Sure he has things to work on but these are things which seem fixable to me.

 

[noobermensch]

I know Urquhart does butcher the ball at times but in fairness to him, the way he plays - which is first hands on the ball at stoppage he's always going to have a player hanging off him and be under pressure.

Nevertheless, his hunger for the ball and his ability to bust his way past tacklers must make a top 15-20 pick now.

Sure he has things to work on but these are things which seem fixable to me.

I think the rankings are difficult outside of the top 12-13 players. I have a big group of 20ish guys that are all talented and have shown a lot and Urquhart is in that group. I imagine it'll separate out a bit as the season progresses.

 

[plays tall 1]

I know Urquhart does butcher the ball at times but in fairness to him, the way he plays - which is first hands on the ball at stoppage he's always going to have a player hanging off him and be under pressure.

Nevertheless, his hunger for the ball and his ability to bust his way past tacklers must make a top 15-20 pick now.

Sure he has things to work on but these are things which seem fixable to me.

The hip re-construction at such a young age might seriously deter interest, unless the medical opinion is that it’s no problem at all.

 

[Futbolista]

We really need more people coming up with their draft top 50's.

I know that there are folks out there that have good knowledge but are a little apprehensive about putting their thoughts into the mainstream.

No need to be apprehensive. Your views will be appreciated.

 

[Futbolista]

The hip re-construction at such a young age might seriously deter interest, unless the medical opinion is that it’s no problem at all.

Don't worry about his hip. He needs to get some tape over those laces on his right boot. Hip good......boot not

 

[roos_fanatic08]

We really need more people coming up with their draft top 50's.

I know that there are folks out there that have good knowledge but are a little apprehensive about putting their thoughts into the mainstream.

No need to be apprehensive. Your views will be appreciated.

I'll happily throw mine in here as a point of discussion.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

For discussion...here is my current top 50 plus a few extras who have draft-able qualities. This hasn't been updated in the last few weeks so is definitely subject to change. Also note, I'm not privvy to pre-season testing numbers like some other posters around these parts. Also, there is no doubt I've missed a few who have draft-able qualities.

Pick	Name	Height	Position	Club	Comments
1	Finn O'Sullivan	182cm	Midfielder	Oakleigh Chargers	Courageous midfielder who is strong over head, powerful runner who runs hard both ways.
2	Josh Smillie	194cm	Midfielder	Eastern Ranges	Tall midfielder that finds possession at will and has a long penetrating kick.
3	Luke Trainor	194cm	Key Defender	Sandringham Dragons	Intercepting general defender who can play on smalls and talls. Composed and balanced.
4	Sid Draper	180cm	Midfielder	South Adelaide	Classy midfielder that has some speed and evasiveness. Well balanced with excellent vision.
5	Levi Ashcroft	179cm	Midfielder	Sandringham Dragons	Accumulating midfielder that powers from contest to contest. Balanced inside and outside game.
6	Leo Lombard	178cm	Midfielder	GC Academy	Combative contested midfielder who has some real zip around the contest.
7	Jagga Smith	181cm	Midfielder	Oakleigh Chargers	Well balanced accumulating midfielder who is at home on the inside and outside the contest.
8	Sam Lalor	187cm	Midfielder/General Forward	GWV Rebels	Powerful midfielder, who is explosive and damaging. Can roll forward and have an impact.
9	Matt Whitlock	198cm	Key Defender	Murray Bushrangers	One on one defender who can also swing forward. Strong overhead but equally adept on the ground.
10	Harry O'Farrell	196cm	Key Defender	Calder Cannons	Lockdown competitive defender that uses his reach and closing speed to advantage.
11	Jack Whitlock	200cm	Tall Forward	Murray Bushrangers	Rangy key forward that marks at the highest point but can also find the ball at ground level.
12	Taj Hotton	182cm	Midfielder/General Forward	Sandringham Dragons	Classy midfielder forward who has plenty of X-Factor. Unfortunately done his ACL.
13	Christian Moraes	183cm	Midfielder	Eastern Ranges	Accumulating midfielder that can roll forward and impact the scoreboard. Strong overhead.
14	Harvey Langford	190cm	Midfielder	Dandenong Stingrays	Versatile midfielder who is strong overhead and has a booming left foot kick.
15	Isaac Kako	175cm	Small Forward	Calder Cannons	Dynamic and exciting small who can kick goals from anywhere. Also pushes into the midfield.
16	Jonty Faull	195cm	Tall Forward	GWV Rebels	Goal kicking key forward who works hard to provide an option. Competitive in the air
17	Tobie Travaglia	187cm	General Defender	Bendigo Pioneers	Intercepting defender who can provide run and carry. Excellent defender with leadership potential.
18	Murphy Reid	180cm	Midfielder	Sandringham Dragons	Smart and classy midfielder who makes good decisions with ball in hand. One touch.
19	Tyler Welsh	191cm	Key Forward	Woodville West	Undersize key forward who is a strong lead/mark type. Neat set shot goal kicking.
20	Joe Berry	180cm	Small Forward	Murray Bushrangers	Lively small forward who can crumb but also present an option on the lead. Classy goal kicker.
21	Jobe Shanahan	194cm	Key Forward	Bendigo Pioneers	Contested marking key forward who times his leads and jumps at the ball to perfection.
22	Ben Camporeale	186cm	Midfielder	Glenelg	Balanced midfielder who works hard between the arcs. Can find the ball inside and outside the contest.
23	Xavier Lindsay	183cm	Midfielder	Gippsland Power	Left footed midfielder with a damaging kick. Has some speed to break the lines.
24	Sam Marshall	185cm	Midfielder	Brisbane Academy	Elite runner who motors from contest to contest. Creates separation from the contest with his pace.
25	Tom Gross	181cm	Midfielder	Oakleigh Chargers	Tough, contested midfielder that has a real competitive streak. Solid overhead.
26	Noah Mraz	198cm	Key Defender	Dandenong Stingrays	Intercepting defender, who has excellent disposal and decision making. Good closing speed.
27	Zak Johnson	185cm	Midfielder	Northern Knights	Classy midfielder, who moves well, accumulates the ball and makes good decisions.
28	Bo Allen	191cm	General Defender/Midfielder	Peel Thunder	Physical left footer who leads from the front. Uses his speed and long kicking to launch offensive attacks.
29	Cooper Hynes	190cm	Midfielder/General Forward	Dandenong Stingrays	Tall midfielder who is a goal kicking threat when playing forward of centre. Strong over the ball.
30	Harrison Oliver	181cm	General Defender	Sandringham Dragons	Rebounding defender who uses his composure and good decision making to good effect.
31	Malakai Champion	172cm	Small Forward	Subiaco	Flashy small forward who can kick goals from anywhere. Provides good defensive pressure.
32	Archer Day-Wicks	186cm	General Forward	Bendigo Pioneers	X-Factor player who can mark, and be damaging at ground level. Creative and classy ball user.
33	Cody Anderson	181cm	Midfielder	Eastern Ranges	Relentless midfielder that tackles hard. At home inside the contest, can also hit the scoreboard.
34	Charlie Nicholls	197cm	Key Forward	Central District	Strong contested marking key forward who provides a leading option up the ground.
35	Evan Bradley	174cm	Small Forward	North Adelaide	Classy small forward who is creative and damaging by foot. Natural goalkicking with plenty of X Factor
36	Josh Murphy	190cm	General Forward	Murray Bushrangers	Impact player who has plenty of x-factor. Contested marking threat who is dangerous at ground level.
37	Kayle Gerryn	199cm	Key Forward/Ruck	West Perth	Unique athletic prospect that has a tonne of potential upside.
38	Alex Dodson	203cm	Ruck	Sturt	Athletic ruckman who covers the ground well and can find the ball. Very balanced for a tall.
39	Nathaniel Sulzberger	184cm	Midfielder/General Forward	Sandringham Dragons	Strong contested player who offers a point of difference with his power around the contest.
40	Jesse Dattoli	179cm	Midfielder/Small Forward	Northern Knights	High footy IQ, who can play a variety of roles around the ground. Dangerous and smart around goals.
41	Luca Grego	183cm	General Defender/Midfielder	Western Jets	Workman utility who can play a variety of roles across the ground. Reliable type.
42	Lucas Camporeale	185cm	Midfielder	Glenelg	Natural wingman who keeps his width and can accumulate the ball on the outside.
43	Zaydyn Lockwood	198cm	Key Defender	Bendigo Pioneers	Raw and athletic key defender who has plenty of upside. Solid defensive craft and in the 1v1's.
44	Pat Retschko	188cm	Midfielder	Oakleigh Chargers	Hard working midfielder who can play inside and outside the contest. Strong runner.
45	Lachie Jacques	184cm	General Defender	Geelong Falcons	Defence first defender, who can intercept and provide drive off half back. Reliable ball user.
46	Luke Urquhart	189cm	Midfielder	East Fremantle	Tall midfielder that can also play across half back. Uses his body well in contested situations.
47	Oliver Depaoli-Kubank	178cm	Midfielder/Small Forward	Tasmania Devils	Consistent type who can play a variety of roles. Reliable disposal and sound decision maker.
48	Jayden Nguyen	177cm	General Defender/Midfielder	Calder Cannons	Small defender who can push up the ground. Creative ball user who uses his speed to impact the game.
49	Pheonix Hargraves	182cm	Midfielder	South Adelaide	Accumulating midfielder who have high work rate. Can also impact the scoreboard
50	Tom Sims	199cm	Key Forward	Northern Knights	Lead up key forward who has good workrate. Solid at ground level for a kid his size.
50+	Oliver Warburton	185cm	Midfielder	Murray Bushrangers	Versatile type who can play inside and outside the contest. Consistent with good defensive intensity.
50+	Jasper Alger	182cm	Small Forward	Oakleigh Chargers	Classy small forward who makes the most of his opportunities. Good defensive intensity.
50+	Lucas McInerney	180cm	Midfielder	Northern Knights	Rangy winger who keeps his width and can be damaging forward of centre. Good disposer.
50+	Noah Howes	196cm	Key Forward	South Adelaide	Overage key forward with strong workrate. Good ground level game and has natural forward craft
50+	River Stevens	176cm	Small Forward	Geelong Falcons	Classy half forward that makes good decisions with the ball. Creative left footer.
50+	Harry Armstrong	193cm	Key Forward	Sandringham Dragons	High workrate key forward who is at home on the lead. Excellent set shot routine.
50+	Charlie West	195cm	Key Forward	Woodville West	Strong marking and physical key forward. Flies aggressively at the ball in contested situations.
50+	Zac McInnes	196cm	Key Forward	Geelong Falcons	Mobile key forward with good forward craft. Uses workrate to present multiple times.
50+	James Barrat	193cm	Key Forward	Bendigo Pioneers	Leading forward with good leap and excellent timing. Elite forward craft and workrate.
50+	Louie Montgomery	184cm	General Defender	North Adelaide	Composed defender who uses the ball well. Solid 1v1 player who can also create off half back.
50+	Jack Ough	193cm	General Defender	GWV Rebels	Hard working and athletic half back/wing who can play a variety of roles across the ground.
50+	Bailey McKenzie	191cm	General Forward	Sandringham Dragons	Mercurial 3rd tall type that can impact the game at ground level or in the air. Classy in front of goal.
50+	Gabriel Stumpf	196cm	Key Forward	Northern Knights	Athletic key forward who is at home leading at the ball carrier. Strong workrate.
50+	Lucas Tovey	198cm	Key Defender	Oakleigh Chargers	Intercepting key defender, who uses his body really well in the contest. Reliable ball user.
50+	Xavier Ivisic	180cm	Midfielder	Geelong Falcons	Reliable inside midfielder who can also find the ball on the outside. Good vision in the contest.
50+	Ben Hopkins	190cm	General Defender	Dandenong Stingrays	Overage accumulating defender who can also push up to a wing. Quick and hard running.
50+	Kobe Ryan	183cm	Midfielder	West Adelaide	Mature age inside midfielder that wins contested possessions and has manic defensive effort.
50+	Joe Pike	203cm	Ruck	Geelong Falcons	Overage ruckman who competes at ground level. Solid tap work and follow up effort.
50+	Oliver Dean	201cm	Ruck	Tasmania Devils	Neat tap ruckman that can impact forward of centre.
50+	Waylon Davey-Motlop	171cm	Small Forward	Northern Territory	Classy small forward who has plenty of X-Factor and upside. Can kick goals from anywhere inside fwd 50.
50+	Tallan Rozenweig	197cm	Key Forward	Central District	Tall forward who uses his leap and long limbs to take the ball at the highest point. Neat kick.
50+	Xavier Kardarchi	186cm	Midfielder	Western Jets	Accumulating midfielder who is strong around the contest. Composed with a solid long kick.
50+	Oliver Hannaford	180cm	Midfielder	GWV Falcons	Agile midfielder who uses his side step to create space around the contest. Good defensive intent.
50+	Damon Hollow	180cm	Midfielder	Calder Cannons	Accumulating wingman who can be damaging with his disposal. Long kicking a real feature.
50+	Ben Barrett	174cm	Small Forward	South Adelaide	Lightning quick small forward who has a bucket of tricks and high impact per possession.
50+	Kade Herbert	184cm	Midfielder/General Forward	Woodville West	High footy IQ, who can play a variety of roles around the ground. Sound decision maker.
50+	Harry Charleson	182cm	General Defender	GWV Rebels	Reliable defender who is composed and can provide some drive off half back.
50+	Liam Kershaw	194cm	Midfielder	Geelong Falcons	Overage wingman who offers a point of difference with his height, marking ability and running capacity
50+	Joel Cochrane	195cm	Key Defender	Sydney Academy	Intercepting defender who can find the ball and provide rebound from the back half.

 

[botts]

For discussion...here is my current top 50 plus a few extras who have draft-able qualities. This hasn't been updated in the last few weeks so is definitely subject to change. Also note, I'm not privvy to pre-season testing numbers like some other posters around these parts. Also, there is no doubt I've missed a few who have draft-able qualities.

Pick	Name	Height	Position	Club	Comments
1	Finn O'Sullivan	182cm	Midfielder	Oakleigh Chargers	Courageous midfielder who is strong over head, powerful runner who runs hard both ways.
2	Josh Smillie	194cm	Midfielder	Eastern Ranges	Tall midfielder that finds possession at will and has a long penetrating kick.
3	Luke Trainor	194cm	Key Defender	Sandringham Dragons	Intercepting general defender who can play on smalls and talls. Composed and balanced.
4	Sid Draper	180cm	Midfielder	South Adelaide	Classy midfielder that has some speed and evasiveness. Well balanced with excellent vision.
5	Levi Ashcroft	179cm	Midfielder	Sandringham Dragons	Accumulating midfielder that powers from contest to contest. Balanced inside and outside game.
6	Leo Lombard	178cm	Midfielder	GC Academy	Combative contested midfielder who has some real zip around the contest.
7	Jagga Smith	181cm	Midfielder	Oakleigh Chargers	Well balanced accumulating midfielder who is at home on the inside and outside the contest.
8	Sam Lalor	187cm	Midfielder/General Forward	GWV Rebels	Powerful midfielder, who is explosive and damaging. Can roll forward and have an impact.
9	Matt Whitlock	198cm	Key Defender	Murray Bushrangers	One on one defender who can also swing forward. Strong overhead but equally adept on the ground.
10	Harry O'Farrell	196cm	Key Defender	Calder Cannons	Lockdown competitive defender that uses his reach and closing speed to advantage.
11	Jack Whitlock	200cm	Tall Forward	Murray Bushrangers	Rangy key forward that marks at the highest point but can also find the ball at ground level.
12	Taj Hotton	182cm	Midfielder/General Forward	Sandringham Dragons	Classy midfielder forward who has plenty of X-Factor. Unfortunately done his ACL.
13	Christian Moraes	183cm	Midfielder	Eastern Ranges	Accumulating midfielder that can roll forward and impact the scoreboard. Strong overhead.
14	Harvey Langford	190cm	Midfielder	Dandenong Stingrays	Versatile midfielder who is strong overhead and has a booming left foot kick.
15	Isaac Kako	175cm	Small Forward	Calder Cannons	Dynamic and exciting small who can kick goals from anywhere. Also pushes into the midfield.
16	Jonty Faull	195cm	Tall Forward	GWV Rebels	Goal kicking key forward who works hard to provide an option. Competitive in the air
17	Tobie Travaglia	187cm	General Defender	Bendigo Pioneers	Intercepting defender who can provide run and carry. Excellent defender with leadership potential.
18	Murphy Reid	180cm	Midfielder	Sandringham Dragons	Smart and classy midfielder who makes good decisions with ball in hand. One touch.
19	Tyler Welsh	191cm	Key Forward	Woodville West	Undersize key forward who is a strong lead/mark type. Neat set shot goal kicking.
20	Joe Berry	180cm	Small Forward	Murray Bushrangers	Lively small forward who can crumb but also present an option on the lead. Classy goal kicker.
21	Jobe Shanahan	194cm	Key Forward	Bendigo Pioneers	Contested marking key forward who times his leads and jumps at the ball to perfection.
22	Ben Camporeale	186cm	Midfielder	Glenelg	Balanced midfielder who works hard between the arcs. Can find the ball inside and outside the contest.
23	Xavier Lindsay	183cm	Midfielder	Gippsland Power	Left footed midfielder with a damaging kick. Has some speed to break the lines.
24	Sam Marshall	185cm	Midfielder	Brisbane Academy	Elite runner who motors from contest to contest. Creates separation from the contest with his pace.
25	Tom Gross	181cm	Midfielder	Oakleigh Chargers	Tough, contested midfielder that has a real competitive streak. Solid overhead.
26	Noah Mraz	198cm	Key Defender	Dandenong Stingrays	Intercepting defender, who has excellent disposal and decision making. Good closing speed.
27	Zak Johnson	185cm	Midfielder	Northern Knights	Classy midfielder, who moves well, accumulates the ball and makes good decisions.
28	Bo Allen	191cm	General Defender/Midfielder	Peel Thunder	Physical left footer who leads from the front. Uses his speed and long kicking to launch offensive attacks.
29	Cooper Hynes	190cm	Midfielder/General Forward	Dandenong Stingrays	Tall midfielder who is a goal kicking threat when playing forward of centre. Strong over the ball.
30	Harrison Oliver	181cm	General Defender	Sandringham Dragons	Rebounding defender who uses his composure and good decision making to good effect.
31	Malakai Champion	172cm	Small Forward	Subiaco	Flashy small forward who can kick goals from anywhere. Provides good defensive pressure.
32	Archer Day-Wicks	186cm	General Forward	Bendigo Pioneers	X-Factor player who can mark, and be damaging at ground level. Creative and classy ball user.
33	Cody Anderson	181cm	Midfielder	Eastern Ranges	Relentless midfielder that tackles hard. At home inside the contest, can also hit the scoreboard.
34	Charlie Nicholls	197cm	Key Forward	Central District	Strong contested marking key forward who provides a leading option up the ground.
35	Evan Bradley	174cm	Small Forward	North Adelaide	Classy small forward who is creative and damaging by foot. Natural goalkicking with plenty of X Factor
36	Josh Murphy	190cm	General Forward	Murray Bushrangers	Impact player who has plenty of x-factor. Contested marking threat who is dangerous at ground level.
37	Kayle Gerryn	199cm	Key Forward/Ruck	West Perth	Unique athletic prospect that has a tonne of potential upside.
38	Alex Dodson	203cm	Ruck	Sturt	Athletic ruckman who covers the ground well and can find the ball. Very balanced for a tall.
39	Nathaniel Sulzberger	184cm	Midfielder/General Forward	Sandringham Dragons	Strong contested player who offers a point of difference with his power around the contest.
40	Jesse Dattoli	179cm	Midfielder/Small Forward	Northern Knights	High footy IQ, who can play a variety of roles around the ground. Dangerous and smart around goals.
41	Luca Grego	183cm	General Defender/Midfielder	Western Jets	Workman utility who can play a variety of roles across the ground. Reliable type.
42	Lucas Camporeale	185cm	Midfielder	Glenelg	Natural wingman who keeps his width and can accumulate the ball on the outside.
43	Zaydyn Lockwood	198cm	Key Defender	Bendigo Pioneers	Raw and athletic key defender who has plenty of upside. Solid defensive craft and in the 1v1's.
44	Pat Retschko	188cm	Midfielder	Oakleigh Chargers	Hard working midfielder who can play inside and outside the contest. Strong runner.
45	Lachie Jacques	184cm	General Defender	Geelong Falcons	Defence first defender, who can intercept and provide drive off half back. Reliable ball user.
46	Luke Urquhart	189cm	Midfielder	East Fremantle	Tall midfielder that can also play across half back. Uses his body well in contested situations.
47	Oliver Depaoli-Kubank	178cm	Midfielder/Small Forward	Tasmania Devils	Consistent type who can play a variety of roles. Reliable disposal and sound decision maker.
48	Jayden Nguyen	177cm	General Defender/Midfielder	Calder Cannons	Small defender who can push up the ground. Creative ball user who uses his speed to impact the game.
49	Pheonix Hargraves	182cm	Midfielder	South Adelaide	Accumulating midfielder who have high work rate. Can also impact the scoreboard
50	Tom Sims	199cm	Key Forward	Northern Knights	Lead up key forward who has good workrate. Solid at ground level for a kid his size.
50+	Oliver Warburton	185cm	Midfielder	Murray Bushrangers	Versatile type who can play inside and outside the contest. Consistent with good defensive intensity.
50+	Jasper Alger	182cm	Small Forward	Oakleigh Chargers	Classy small forward who makes the most of his opportunities. Good defensive intensity.
50+	Lucas McInerney	180cm	Midfielder	Northern Knights	Rangy winger who keeps his width and can be damaging forward of centre. Good disposer.
50+	Noah Howes	196cm	Key Forward	South Adelaide	Overage key forward with strong workrate. Good ground level game and has natural forward craft
50+	River Stevens	176cm	Small Forward	Geelong Falcons	Classy half forward that makes good decisions with the ball. Creative left footer.
50+	Harry Armstrong	193cm	Key Forward	Sandringham Dragons	High workrate key forward who is at home on the lead. Excellent set shot routine.
50+	Charlie West	195cm	Key Forward	Woodville West	Strong marking and physical key forward. Flies aggressively at the ball in contested situations.
50+	Zac McInnes	196cm	Key Forward	Geelong Falcons	Mobile key forward with good forward craft. Uses workrate to present multiple times.
50+	James Barrat	193cm	Key Forward	Bendigo Pioneers	Leading forward with good leap and excellent timing. Elite forward craft and workrate.
50+	Louie Montgomery	184cm	General Defender	North Adelaide	Composed defender who uses the ball well. Solid 1v1 player who can also create off half back.
50+	Jack Ough	193cm	General Defender	GWV Rebels	Hard working and athletic half back/wing who can play a variety of roles across the ground.
50+	Bailey McKenzie	191cm	General Forward	Sandringham Dragons	Mercurial 3rd tall type that can impact the game at ground level or in the air. Classy in front of goal.
50+	Gabriel Stumpf	196cm	Key Forward	Northern Knights	Athletic key forward who is at home leading at the ball carrier. Strong workrate.
50+	Lucas Tovey	198cm	Key Defender	Oakleigh Chargers	Intercepting key defender, who uses his body really well in the contest. Reliable ball user.
50+	Xavier Ivisic	180cm	Midfielder	Geelong Falcons	Reliable inside midfielder who can also find the ball on the outside. Good vision in the contest.
50+	Ben Hopkins	190cm	General Defender	Dandenong Stingrays	Overage accumulating defender who can also push up to a wing. Quick and hard running.
50+	Kobe Ryan	183cm	Midfielder	West Adelaide	Mature age inside midfielder that wins contested possessions and has manic defensive effort.
50+	Joe Pike	203cm	Ruck	Geelong Falcons	Overage ruckman who competes at ground level. Solid tap work and follow up effort.
50+	Oliver Dean	201cm	Ruck	Tasmania Devils	Neat tap ruckman that can impact forward of centre.
50+	Waylon Davey-Motlop	171cm	Small Forward	Northern Territory	Classy small forward who has plenty of X-Factor and upside. Can kick goals from anywhere inside fwd 50.
50+	Tallan Rozenweig	197cm	Key Forward	Central District	Tall forward who uses his leap and long limbs to take the ball at the highest point. Neat kick.
50+	Xavier Kardarchi	186cm	Midfielder	Western Jets	Accumulating midfielder who is strong around the contest. Composed with a solid long kick.
50+	Oliver Hannaford	180cm	Midfielder	GWV Falcons	Agile midfielder who uses his side step to create space around the contest. Good defensive intent.
50+	Damon Hollow	180cm	Midfielder	Calder Cannons	Accumulating wingman who can be damaging with his disposal. Long kicking a real feature.
50+	Ben Barrett	174cm	Small Forward	South Adelaide	Lightning quick small forward who has a bucket of tricks and high impact per possession.
50+	Kade Herbert	184cm	Midfielder/General Forward	Woodville West	High footy IQ, who can play a variety of roles around the ground. Sound decision maker.
50+	Harry Charleson	182cm	General Defender	GWV Rebels	Reliable defender who is composed and can provide some drive off half back.
50+	Liam Kershaw	194cm	Midfielder	Geelong Falcons	Overage wingman who offers a point of difference with his height, marking ability and running capacity
50+	Joel Cochrane	195cm	Key Defender	Sydney Academy	Intercepting defender who can find the ball and provide rebound from the back half.

Tom sims seem a bit low. Happy to take him there

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Tom sims seem a bit low. Happy to take him there

Totally. Sims and Urquhart would easily be pushing the top 30 now. Could probably throw Gerreyn and Dodson in that conversation as well.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Could Trainor eventually go through the middle?

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Smillie at 194cm is not a great overhead mark? And doesn't bust packs?

Alarm bells if so

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Could Trainor eventually go through the middle?

Potentially, but looks most comfortable playing behind the ball and having a bit of space.

 

[PMBangers]

We really need more people coming up with their draft top 50's.

I know that there are folks out there that have good knowledge but are a little apprehensive about putting their thoughts into the mainstream.

No need to be apprehensive. Your views will be appreciated.

This could be just the push I needed

 

[tigs2010]

This could be just the push I needed

Have it done by COB tomorrow

 

[eDPS]

I know Urquhart does butcher the ball at times but in fairness to him, the way he plays - which is first hands on the ball at stoppage he's always going to have a player hanging off him and be under pressure.

Nevertheless, his hunger for the ball and his ability to bust his way past tacklers must make a top 15-20 pick now.

Sure he has things to work on but these are things which seem fixable to me.

He will be hard to ignore in the top 20 atm, kicking needs work but has a lot of other very exciting traits.

He and Bo Allan sit in my 20 at this stage

 

[RedmanWasHere]

This could be just the push I needed

July thread?