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Future stars to feature in double-header on Sunday
Many of the most promising under-17 boys footballers from Victoria, New South Wales, ACT and Queensland will be in action in Melbourne this Sunday, August 13.
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MATCH 1
Victoria Metro vs New South Wales/ACT
Sunday, August 13 at 10:30am
Avalon Airport Oval, Werribee
MATCH 2
Victoria Country vs Queensland
Sunday, August 13 at 1:00pm
Avalon Airport Oval, Werribee
Victoria Metro vs New South Wales/ACT
Sunday, August 13 at 10:30am
Avalon Airport Oval, Werribee
VICTORIA METRO
| # | NAME | SURNAME | HT | STATE TALENT PROGRAM | COMMUNITY CLUB |
| 1 | Massimo | Raso | 171 | Western Jets | Keilor |
| 2 | Noah | Scott | 173 | Calder Cannons | Pascoe Vale |
| 5 | Jayden | Nguyen | 177 | Calder Cannons | Aberfeldie |
| 6 | Damon | Hollow | 180 | Calder Cannons | Epping |
| 7 | Tom | Gross | 180 | Oakleigh Chargers | Old Trinity Grammarians |
| 8 | Lucas | McInerney | 180 | Northern Knights | Heidelberg |
| 9 | Nash | King | 181 | Calder Cannons | Wallan |
| 10 | Jhett | Haeata | 185 | Sandringham Dragons | Beaumaris |
| 11 | Harrison | Oliver | 181 | Sandringham Dragons | Old Brighton Grammarians |
| 12 | Cody | Anderson | 181 | Eastern Ranges | Healesville |
| 14 | Christian | Moraes | 182 | Eastern Ranges | Knox |
| 15 | Lucca | Grego | 183 | Western Jets | Keilor |
| 16 | Taj | Hotton | 184 | Sandringham Dragons | Old Haileybury |
| 17 | Daniel | Snell | 184 | Western Jets | Yarraville Seddon Eagles |
| 18 | Zak | Johnson | 185 | Northern Knights | Old Ivanhoe Grammarians |
| 19 | Patrick | Retschko | 186 | Oakleigh Chargers | St Kilda City |
| 20 | Liam | Farrar | 188 | Northern Knights | Diamond Creek |
| 22 | Charlie | Richardson | 190 | Oakleigh Chargers | Vermont |
| 23 | Tadhg | McCarthy | 191 | Oakleigh Chargers | Old Carey Grammarians |
| 25 | Riley | White | 191 | Eastern Ranges | Park Orchards |
| 26 | Harry | O'Farrell | 196 | Calder Cannons | Maribyrnong Park |
| 27 | Adrian | Cole | 197 | Sandringham Dragons | St Bedes/Mentone |
| 28 | Sam | Buck | 197 | Sandringham Dragons | St Bedes/Mentone |
| 29 | Luka | Pecer | 200 | Sandringham Dragons | Beaumaris |
NSW/ACT
| # | NAME | SURNAME | HT | STATE TALENT PROGRAM | COMMUNITY CLUB |
| 1 | Zachary | Nandlal | 171 | Sydney Swans Academy | Sydney University |
| 2 | Josaia | Delana | 174 | GWS Giants Academy | East Coast Eagles |
| 3 | Alex | Swinnerton | 175 | Murray Bushrangers | Lavington |
| 4 | Harvey | Odgers | 177 | GWS Giants Academy | Narrandera |
| 5 | Lachlan | Hogan | 178 | Bendigo Pioneers | Moama |
| 6 | Mitchell | Woods | 179 | Sydney Swans Academy | St George Dragons |
| 7 | Joe | Harrison | 180 | Sydney Swans Academy | Warners Bay |
| 8 | Nicholas | Andreacchio | 180 | Sydney Swans Academy | Sydney University |
| 9 | Oliver | Withers | 183 | GWS Giants Academy | Belconnen |
| 10 | Felix | Rugge-Price | 184 | Sydney Swans Academy | Sydney University |
| 11 | Colby | Hill | 185 | Sydney Swans Academy | St George Dragons |
| 12 | Mitchell | Bradley | 175 | GWS Giants Academy | East Coast Eagles |
| 13 | Thomas | Hitchens | 188 | Sydney Swans Academy | UNSW-ES Bulldogs |
| 14 | Tiernan | Miller | 190 | GWS Giants Academy | Belconnen |
| 15 | Noah | Harper | 191 | GWS Giants Academy | Collingullie Glenfield Park |
| 16 | Cameron | Este | 191 | Sydney Swans Academy | Pennant Hills |
| 17 | Jobe | Shanahan | 192 | Bendigo Pioneers | Moama |
| 18 | Tom | Forrest | 192 | Murray Bushrangers | Wangaratta Rovers |
| 19 | Henry | Holdom | 195 | GWS Giants Academy | Belconnen |
| 20 | Joel | Cochran | 195 | Sydney Swans Academy | UNSW-ES Bulldogs |
| 21 | Cooper | Bell | 198 | GWS Giants Academy | Belconnen |
| 22 | Joshua | Murphy | 187 | Murray Bushrangers | North Albury |
| 23 | Logan | Smith | 202 | GWS Giants Academy | Queanbeyan |
Victoria Country vs Queensland
Sunday, August 13 at 1:00pm
Avalon Airport Oval, Werribee
VICTORIA COUNTRY
| # | NAME | SURNAME | HT | STATE TALENT PROGRAM | COMMUNITY CLUB |
| 1 | Oliver | Hannaford | 180 | GWV Rebels | East Point |
| 2 | Max | Donohue | 180 | Gippsland Power | Leongatha |
| 3 | Xavier | Lindsay | 182 | Gippsland Power | Leongatha |
| 4 | Oliver | Warburton | 184 | Murray Bushrangers | Shepparton Swans |
| 5 | River | Stevens | 173 | Geelong Falcons | Newtown & Chilwell |
| 6 | Julian | Callahan | 177 | Gippsland Power | Leongatha |
| 7 | Will | McCarthy | 188 | Murray Bushrangers | Wangaratta Rovers |
| 8 | Max | Stobie | 181 | Gippsland Power | Maffra |
| 9 | Kobe | George | 184 | Geelong Falcons | Bell Park |
| 10 | Rhys | Unwin | 177 | GWV Rebels | Cobden |
| 11 | Harrison | Doughton | 185 | Dandenong Stingrays | Mt Eliza |
| 12 | Harry | Charleson | 182 | GWV Rebels | East Point |
| 13 | Xavier | Ivisic | 180 | Geelong Falcons | Bell Park |
| 14 | Ned | Renfree | 183 | GWV Rebels | East Point |
| 15 | Tobie | Travaglia | 187 | Bendigo Pioneers | Sandhurst |
| 16 | Cooper | Hynes | 188 | Dandenong Stingrays | Bonbeach |
| 17 | Harvey | Langford | 188 | Dandenong Stingrays | Mount Martha |
| 18 | Jonty | Faull | 194 | GWV Rebels | Redan |
| 20 | Jack | Whitlock | 199 | Murray Bushrangers | Shepparton |
| 21 | Wil | Rantall | 194 | GWV Rebels | South Warrnambool |
| 22 | Zac | Harding | 197 | Murray Bushrangers | Wodonga |
| 23 | Noah | Mraz | 197 | Dandenong Stingrays | Narre North Foxes |
| 24 | Matt | Whitlock | 197 | Murray Bushrangers | Shepparton |
| 25 | Flynn | Penry | 200 | GWV Rebels | Cobden |
QUEENSLAND
| # | NAME | SURNAME | HT | STATE TALENT PROGRAM | COMMUNITY CLUB |
| 1 | Frasier | Lay | 176 | Brisbane Lions Academy | Morningside |
| 2 | Mason | Field | 174 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Labrador |
| 3 | Harrison | Ronchi | 176 | Brisbane Lions Academy | Caloundra |
| 5 | William | Munro | 185 | Brisbane Lions Academy | Sherwood |
| 6 | Jake | Fazldeen | 171 | Brisbane Lions Academy | Wilston Grange |
| 7 | Nelson | Beikoff-Smart | 177 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Palm Beach Currumbin |
| 8 | Leonardo | Lombard | 178 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Broadbeach |
| 9 | Wyatt | Greenaway | 186 | Brisbane Lions Academy | Mt Gravatt |
| 10 | Lachlan | Gulbin | 185 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Burleigh |
| 11 | Finlay | Gray | 189 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Broadbeach |
| 12 | Joe | Kennedy | 185 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Broadbeach |
| 13 | Tom | Fry | 181 | Brisbane Lions Academy | Mayne |
| 14 | Zai | Millane | 189 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Surfers Paradise |
| 15 | Fergus | McFadyen | 189 | Brisbane Lions Academy | Wilston Grange |
| 17 | Ryan | Gilder | 191 | Brisbane Lions Academy | Sherwood |
| 19 | Charlie | Hewitt | 198 | Brisbane Lions Academy | Moreton Bay |
| 20 | Samuel | Marshall | 185 | Brisbane Lions Academy | St Bedes/Mentone |
| 22 | Ty | Fitzgerald | 180 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Boyne Island Tannum Sands |
| 23 | Ty | Gallop | 193 | Brisbane Lions Academy | Maroochydore |
| 24 | Boston | Everitt | 185 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Park Orchards |
| 26 | Max | Marsh | 187 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Boyne Island Tannum Sands |
| 27 | Tom | Gillett | 201 | Brisbane Lions Academy | Sherwood |
| 28 | Joshua | Zanker-Close | 193 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Broadbeach |
| 29 | Oscar | Wood | 195 | Gold Coast Suns Academy | Surfers Paradise |
| 30 | Caleb | Nancarrow | 193 | Gold Coast Suns Academy/ Oakleigh Chargers | Old Scotch |
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There are a few players playing in the AGSV vs APS game this week aswell.
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Just my two cents on the ACT lads, having watched at least two games a week this year.
Oli Withers is by far the best of the crop. He's been a star at first grade level, his power, strength, an composure in packs make him a reliable power-mid and a solid forward target. Reminds me of Jai Newcombe. I'm not sure he's in the Giants Academy though. One I could see rocketing into the the frame.
Logan Smith is a massive unit, but I'd think he's a structure pick more than a prospect. Just a solid ruckman who'll provide service to the mids as best he can. Cooper Bell is incredibly mobile and clean for his height, strong defensively but probably needs to build up his production and involvement. That'll come with time, massive growth spurts take a bit of work to build the fitness base back up. Someone with a lot of upside.
Miller and Holdom are interesting choices. Miller's had some exposure with the Giants CTL side where I thought he was alright. Gets around the park well and can move the ball, probably needs to work on his touch and positioning. Holdom is a depth pick, can run a lead and kick a goal.
Withers and Bell are the ones I'd be keeping an eye on. Withers production and play style make him lethal and he's proven he can win games off his own back. Bell has plenty of upside and a good set of skills to build upon.
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A few famous names in that Queensland team. Boston Everitt (Spida's son/St Kilda) and Joe Kennedy (Maxy's son/Brisbane) as well as Zai Millane being Darren's nephew and Leo Lombard is former Cuban UFC fighter Hector's son. All members of the Suns Academy. Hoping the lads can pull off a big win over Vic Country tomorrow and set themselves up nicely for their draft year.
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There isn’t any players prioritising the APS/AGS over the u17. All the big name bottom agers - Levi, Jagger, Finn etc..are having a rest.
Watched the Vic Metro v NSW game. Was a great game. NSW got some good players coming through.
For VM Tom Gross, Nash King and Christian Moraes all good. A kid I have been keeping tabs on Charlie Richardson from Oakleigh, kicked 3 as a leading forward (192cm) and lead/marked quite well. Still heaps of physical development left in him so will enjoy watching him next year.
For VM Tom Gross, Nash King and Christian Moraes all good. A kid I have been keeping tabs on Charlie Richardson from Oakleigh, kicked 3 as a leading forward (192cm) and lead/marked quite well. Still heaps of physical development left in him so will enjoy watching him next year.
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Thanks Tivva and Bicks.
i had to add Gerryn, Hewitt and Murphy Reid, i also pushed up Moraes
updated 2024 Top 50
1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh(VC) 181cm - mid
2. Sid Draper - South Adelaide - 178cm - mid
3. Tyler Welsh - WWT/Adel FS - 192cm - forw
4. Phoenix Hargrave - South Adelaide - 181cm - mid/forw
5. Levi Ashcroft - Sand/Bris FS - 179cm - mid/forw
6. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm - mid/hbf
7. Harvey Langford - Dandenong - 188cm - mid/forw
8. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm - mid
9. Nash King - Calder - 181cm - mid
10. Lucca Grego - Western - 183cm - mid
11. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm - def
12. Deian Roberts - Peel - 185cm - mid
13. Tom Evans - Bendigo - 180cm - mid
14. Rhys Unwin - GWV - 177cm - forw/mid
15. Benny Barrett - South Adelaide - 174cm - forw/mid
16. Jesse Dattoli - Northern - 178cm - forw/mid
17. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 180cm - mid
18. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg/Carl FS - 182cm - mid/def
19. Jayden Nguyen - Calder/Ess NGA - 177cm - wing
20. Kade Herbert - WWT - 183cm - mid
21. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm - mid
22. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth - 198cm - ruck/kpp (recent growth spurt from 190-198cm looked fantastic in the u16s champs)
23. Xavier Ivisic - Geelong - 180cm - mid
24. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong - 188cm - def/mid
25. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo - 185cm - mid/forw
26. Sam Marshall - Sand/Bris A - 185cm - mid
27. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm - mid
28. Otis Harvey - Swan Dist - 182cm - mid
29. Isaac Kako - Calder/Ess NGA - 175cm - forw
30. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 182cm - mid
31. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm - mid
32. Louie Montgomery - North Adel/Port FS - 190cm - def
33. Charlie Hewitt - Brisbane A - 198cm - kpf/ruck
34. Christian Moraes - Eastern/Haw NGA - 182cm - mid
35. Caleb Nancarrow - GCS A/Oak - 191cm - forw
36. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo - 193cm - forw
37. Oliver Warburton - Murray - 184cm - mid
38. Jacob Newton - Norwood - 175cm - mid
39. Thomas Legudi - Calder - 177cm - forw/mid
40. Bo Allan - Peel - 189cm - def
41. Ned Atkinson - Sturt - 180cm - mid
42. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 193cm - def
43. Lucas McInerney - Northern - 180cm - mid/def
44. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg/Carl FS - 182cm - def
45. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tasmania - 177cm - mid
46. Koopa Walsh - Subiaco - 193cm - forw
47. Harrison Creighton - Swan Dist - 184cm - mid
48. Jack Ough - GWV - 191cm - forw
49. Taj Hotton - Sandringham - mid
50. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 181cm - mid/forw
updated 2024 Top 50
1. Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh(VC) 181cm - mid
2. Sid Draper - South Adelaide - 178cm - mid
3. Tyler Welsh - WWT/Adel FS - 192cm - forw
4. Phoenix Hargrave - South Adelaide - 181cm - mid/forw
5. Levi Ashcroft - Sand/Bris FS - 179cm - mid/forw
6. Josh Smillie - Eastern - 194cm - mid/hbf
7. Harvey Langford - Dandenong - 188cm - mid/forw
8. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh - 181cm - mid
9. Nash King - Calder - 181cm - mid
10. Lucca Grego - Western - 183cm - mid
11. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo - 187cm - def
12. Deian Roberts - Peel - 185cm - mid
13. Tom Evans - Bendigo - 180cm - mid
14. Rhys Unwin - GWV - 177cm - forw/mid
15. Benny Barrett - South Adelaide - 174cm - forw/mid
16. Jesse Dattoli - Northern - 178cm - forw/mid
17. Tom Gross - Oakleigh - 180cm - mid
18. Lucas Camporeale - Glenlg/Carl FS - 182cm - mid/def
19. Jayden Nguyen - Calder/Ess NGA - 177cm - wing
20. Kade Herbert - WWT - 183cm - mid
21. Leonardo Lombard - GCS A - 178cm - mid
22. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth - 198cm - ruck/kpp (recent growth spurt from 190-198cm looked fantastic in the u16s champs)
23. Xavier Ivisic - Geelong - 180cm - mid
24. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong - 188cm - def/mid
25. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo - 185cm - mid/forw
26. Sam Marshall - Sand/Bris A - 185cm - mid
27. Sam Lalor - GWV - 187cm - mid
28. Otis Harvey - Swan Dist - 182cm - mid
29. Isaac Kako - Calder/Ess NGA - 175cm - forw
30. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland - 182cm - mid
31. Zak Johnson - Northern - 185cm - mid
32. Louie Montgomery - North Adel/Port FS - 190cm - def
33. Charlie Hewitt - Brisbane A - 198cm - kpf/ruck
34. Christian Moraes - Eastern/Haw NGA - 182cm - mid
35. Caleb Nancarrow - GCS A/Oak - 191cm - forw
36. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo - 193cm - forw
37. Oliver Warburton - Murray - 184cm - mid
38. Jacob Newton - Norwood - 175cm - mid
39. Thomas Legudi - Calder - 177cm - forw/mid
40. Bo Allan - Peel - 189cm - def
41. Ned Atkinson - Sturt - 180cm - mid
42. Luke Trainor - Sandringham - 193cm - def
43. Lucas McInerney - Northern - 180cm - mid/def
44. Ben Camporeale - Glenlg/Carl FS - 182cm - def
45. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tasmania - 177cm - mid
46. Koopa Walsh - Subiaco - 193cm - forw
47. Harrison Creighton - Swan Dist - 184cm - mid
48. Jack Ough - GWV - 191cm - forw
49. Taj Hotton - Sandringham - mid
50. Murphy Reid - Sandringham - 181cm - mid/forw
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what are you basing Hewitt so high on? how he performed in the u16s?
There is another QLD ruck/forward in Gillett that is far more advanced, and probably has more upside.
Does anyone have footage of the QLD vs Vic C u17 game?
There is another QLD ruck/forward in Gillett that is far more advanced, and probably has more upside.
Does anyone have footage of the QLD vs Vic C u17 game?
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thanks, watched the game.
Leo Lombard a class above for QLD, best player on the ground by a mile
Other notables were Fry, Fazldeen and I really liked Gallop up forward, just a big powerful athlete. Gilder very quiet, injury cloud pre-game so perhaps underdone.
Gillett did some nice things, but was well beaten in centre bounce, but he is so clean at ground level for a big guy and had some great touches in general play.
Sam Marshall finds it, but is a poor decision maker and an ordinary kick. Fair bit of fuss abot Nancarrow around the traps, but he was a non contributor.
Also liked the look of Greenaway for QLD
Standout for Vic was the little terrier #13, not sure his name. A real competitor and good at stoppage.
Leo Lombard a class above for QLD, best player on the ground by a mile
Other notables were Fry, Fazldeen and I really liked Gallop up forward, just a big powerful athlete. Gilder very quiet, injury cloud pre-game so perhaps underdone.
Gillett did some nice things, but was well beaten in centre bounce, but he is so clean at ground level for a big guy and had some great touches in general play.
Sam Marshall finds it, but is a poor decision maker and an ordinary kick. Fair bit of fuss abot Nancarrow around the traps, but he was a non contributor.
Also liked the look of Greenaway for QLD
Standout for Vic was the little terrier #13, not sure his name. A real competitor and good at stoppage.
Kade Herbert I think will end up one of the higher ranked SA kids from this draft come draft day. 16 touches in his 3rd league game on the weekend and thought he looked comfortable at the level.
Move Murphy Reid to top 25. Easily top few midfielders in Vic Metro with Levi and Jagger.
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