Preview 2024 AFL Draft General Discussion

[BluesRule]

Sounds too straight forward.

1. Smith
2. FOS
3. Draper

A crow’s worst nightmare.

Wonder if Adelaide would bid for #3 if that happens....????

 

[richoatthedisco]

Trying to get ahead of the Tassie draft concessions. I can understand why but jeez 2025 is going to get ugly for them.

It'll be kinda like 2010 all over again, when we were 'the worst team since Fitzroy' and lost our first nine games before a glorious win over Port in the slop in Adelaide. Didn't even end up with the spoon. As a fan I really enjoyed that year. But that team had Jack Riewoldt winning the Coleman (at 21, in the second-bottom team, what a champion), as well as young Cotchin, Martin, Edwards, Rance, Astbury and Grimes on the list if not all in the ones at that stage.

We don't have that superstar young group yet, but we do have a better senior core than back then - even with everyone we've lost. But we're odds-on for the spoon, I imagine.

We need this draft and the next to be where we collect our next similar group. We might have a couple already but we really need to nail the next 2-3 drafts. Great hand in an excellent draft to begin. Looking forward to 20 Nov.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I'm just not seeing the NM pick split happening in the end despite all the talk.

If Richmond offer 6+18 for 2 is that worth it for North Melbourne? Surely North would rather just ensure they get who they want (even if they are reaching for somebody), as opposed to hoping in exchange for an extra pick that'll be in the 20s after bids.

On the flipside I don't see how Richmond could offer 6+10/11. It's too much. As much as they would like the top 2 picks, they can get another gun mid prospect at 6 plus add a KPP at 10/11 which is surely smarter early in a rebuild. Reid/Smillie + Tauru/Armstrong/Trainor > Smith/FOS/Lalor.

Saints and Dees would want something substantial back from North to part with both top 10 picks. I'm not sure North would be keen on that. If they were willing to swap both top 10s for pick 2, I imagine they would have gone harder at WC pick 3.

 

[Bletch]

I'm just not seeing the NM pick split happening in the end despite all the talk.

If Richmond offer 6+18 for 2 is that worth it for North Melbourne? Surely North would rather just ensure they get who they want (even if they are reaching for somebody), as opposed to hoping in exchange for an extra pick that'll be in the 20s after bids.

On the flipside I don't see how Richmond could offer 6+10/11. It's too much. As much as they would like the top 2 picks, they can get another gun mid prospect at 6 plus add a KPP at 10/11 which is surely smarter early in a rebuild. Reid/Smillie + Tauru/Armstrong/Trainor > Smith/FOS/Lalor.

Saints and Dees would want something substantial back from North to part with both top 10 picks. I'm not sure North would be keen on that. If they were willing to swap both top 10s for pick 2, I imagine they would have gone harder at WC pick 3.

Agree. Only caveat... Norf may back themselves to finish ahead of Saints and/or Dees next year, and so might consider adding F1 to pick 2. But they'd really want to be confident it would work out that way.

 

[banzai]

Trying to get ahead of the Tassie draft concessions. I can understand why but jeez 2025 is going to get ugly for them.

It wont really be worse than this season even if we don't win a game. We won 2 games with an old list and half a checked out team. Atleast there will be young players to watch.

 

[The Nostradamus]

if we keep 2 i expect us to take lalor or FOS

top 4 not incl FS i think is locked in some order Lalor, FOS, Jagga, Draper

dees at 5 is hard to predict do they go Langford, Tauru or armstrong?

 

[marcmurphy3]

Agree. Only caveat... Norf may back themselves to finish ahead of Saints and/or Dees next year, and so might consider adding F1 to pick 2. But they'd really want to be confident it would work out that way.

Yeah, thought that to. They could also do 2+F1 for 6+10 from Richmond. Richmond's might be keen if they want to spread out their picks. But North sure would want to be confident. Super Risky and a big premium to pay to move their pick forward into this years draft from 2025.

 

[banzai]

Yeah, thought that to. They could also do 2+F1 for 6+10 from Richmond. Richmond's might be keen if they want to spread out their picks. But North sure would want to be confident. Super Risky and a big premium to pay to move their pick forward into this years draft from 2025.

They wont offer 2 + F1, we would take that without even thinking.

 

[Bletch]

They wont offer 2 + F1, we would take that without even thinking.

What's the feeling over your way banzai - trade for pick 2 or not? And if so, what gets it done?

 

[danster168]

if we keep 2 i expect us to take lalor or FOS

top 4 not incl FS i think is locked in some order Lalor, FOS, Jagga, Draper

dees at 5 is hard to predict do they go Langford, Tauru or armstrong?

I would expect the dees to go for Tauru. Jason Taylor generally likes the tough types and the only time that he's gone for soft ones (aka Jefferson, Weideman) has been because we've been so desperate for forwards so I expect Tauru, then Langford and I'd imagine we'd look at Armstrong at 9 but I'm not sold on Armstrong. So many of his goals are crumbing type goals and his kicking looks horrible just from his highlights. Seems to helicopter so many goals. But that's just me, I could be wrong. I've heard he's a great contested mark but not many of his highlights show his great contested marks. There's many more contested mark highlights in Tauru's.

 

[Tortured Tiger]

I would expect the dees to go for Tauru. Jason Taylor generally likes the tough types and the only time that he's gone for soft ones (aka Jefferson, Weideman) has been because we've been so desperate for forwards so I expect Tauru, then Langford and I'd imagine we'd look at Armstrong at 9 but I'm not sold on Armstrong. So many of his goals are crumbing type goals and his kicking looks horrible just from his highlights. Seems to helicopter so many goals. But that's just me, I could be wrong. I've heard he's a great contested mark but not many of his highlights show his great contested marks. There's many more contested mark highlights in Tauru's.

I assume Tauru is after the Kako bid of course

 

[Milanista28]

I'm just not seeing the NM pick split happening in the end despite all the talk.

If Richmond offer 6+18 for 2 is that worth it for North Melbourne? Surely North would rather just ensure they get who they want (even if they are reaching for somebody), as opposed to hoping in exchange for an extra pick that'll be in the 20s after bids.

On the flipside I don't see how Richmond could offer 6+10/11. It's too much. As much as they would like the top 2 picks, they can get another gun mid prospect at 6 plus add a KPP at 10/11 which is surely smarter early in a rebuild. Reid/Smillie + Tauru/Armstrong/Trainor > Smith/FOS/Lalor.

Saints and Dees would want something substantial back from North to part with both top 10 picks. I'm not sure North would be keen on that. If they were willing to swap both top 10s for pick 2, I imagine they would have gone harder at WC pick 3.

The draft numbers don't matter now, if North move from 2 to 6 it's because they believe the guy they want will be there at 6. They get 18 as a bonus.

10/11 or 18 doesn't really matter as they're making the move for a particular player. Sure they'd rather 11, getting the bloke you want at 6 and then having 18, it's still a good deal.

 

[marcmurphy3]

The draft numbers don't matter now, if North move from 2 to 6 it's because they believe the guy they want will be there at 6. They get 18 as a bonus.

10/11 or 18 doesn't really matter as they're making the move for a particular player. Sure they'd rather 11, getting the bloke you want at 6 and then having 18, it's still a good deal.

That's true but if they only get 18 they'd want to be 100% sure their man is there at 6. Not worth the risk if there is any doubt.

 

[Milanista28]

That's true but if they only get 18 they'd want to be 100% sure their man is there at 6. Not worth the risk if there is any doubt.

Yep, agreed.

 

[Crow till I die]

Could anyone see Richmond trading pick 6 & 10 (pick 7 & 13 here) for North’s pick 2 (3 here), assuming Rioli/Bolton get done. Richmond can take both Lalor and Jagga and North can take Tauru (who they seem keen on but pick 2 might be a little high) and best available. Who says no here?

1. Richmond - Sam Lalor
2. Brisbane (Bid) - Levi Ashcroft
3. Richmond - Jagga Smith
4. Carlton - Finn O’Sullivan
5. Adelaide - Sam Draper
6. Melbourne - Murphy Reid
7. North - Alix Tauru
8. Essendon (Bid) - Isaac Kako
9. St Kilda - Harvey Langford
10. St Kilda - Josh Smillie
11. Gold Coast (Bid) - Leo Lombard
12. Melbourne - Harry Armstrong
13. North - Tobie Travaglia/best fit

N Fing way are we drafting that dud from Essendon (still under contract) ...but if you were to say Sid Draper at pick 4...