Game Day 2024 AFL Fantasy Round ZERO Discussion

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

Watched the game in delay. Didn't get to the end without knowing the result because Kayo inexplicably jumped half an hour while at 3/4 time. No surprise, I suppose.

Anyway, just wanted to mention Dream-Stats. I have no involvement, I just appreciate the innovation to provide live Fantasy scores in delay while watching a replay. Great idea and they deserve credit.

Live AFL Dream Team Scores and Stats

Providing live and delayed AFL Dream Team scores and statistics with detailed player graphs and stats to keep your fantasy footy team ahead of the pack.

dream-stats.com

 

[Phar Ace]

Dees board seems to think Salem back until Bowey comes good.

There goes that!

Yep, Kozi is back next game - even if they found someone to replace Bowey

 

[Phar Ace]

Slightly over rookie price and should average 60+ - absolutely perfect for D6, IMO.

Only if he gets better for longer in the game - he should, but he was ordinary in the first half

 

[Iceman!]

This is the first year i have possibly got 'too much money'... I was already struggling to convince myself to pay up for any of the big dogs because i am going all in on cash gen this year.

I know i need some of the big dogs but i can not find a single one that isn't a bye player early that i am confident in.

 

[Catastrophe!]

This is the first year i have possibly got 'too much money'... I was already struggling to convince myself to pay up for any of the big dogs because i am going all in on cash gen this year.

I know i need some of the big dogs but i can not find a single one that isn't a bye player early that i am confident in.

Honestly, Bont.

 

[amazingjoshy]

 

[Mezzoculo]

Wonder if everyone who is starting with Gulden will go through with it now...

But he could be anything!

 

[Exambolor]

I looked at Heeney’s price and he’s $722k, for some reason I though he was in the 800s

 

[Zevon]

This is the first year i have possibly got 'too much money'... I was already struggling to convince myself to pay up for any of the big dogs because i am going all in on cash gen this year.

I know i need some of the big dogs but i can not find a single one that isn't a bye player early that i am confident in.

My opinion - You don’t need a big dog, it’s one of the big fallacies of fantasy. Last year a lot of people had Laird as a big dog and a walk up captaincy option to start the year. Did not turn out well. The year before it was Steele and Touk. Both underwhelming. This year after only one game we’ve already seen that a million dollar player in Gulden can have a poor start and be set to lose a stack of money (and I daresay a lot of people would have had him as VC/C option last night if the game was the actual start of the fantasy season).

If you like your team as it is and you’re confident that your players are all value and going to produce competitive scores for you each week, you don’t need to spend money for the sake of it.

I daresay there’ll be some way you do end up deciding to spend it between now and next week anyhow, but if not, I wouldn’t bring in a big dog just because you feel you can’t leave money unspent.

 

[RowellAnderson12]

Watched the game in delay. Didn't get to the end without knowing the result because Kayo inexplicably jumped half an hour while at 3/4 time. No surprise, I suppose.

Anyway, just wanted to mention Dream-Stats. I have no involvement, I just appreciate the innovation to provide live Fantasy scores in delay while watching a replay. Great idea and they deserve credit.

Live AFL Dream Team Scores and Stats

Providing live and delayed AFL Dream Team scores and statistics with detailed player graphs and stats to keep your fantasy footy team ahead of the pack.

dream-stats.com

My mates and I preferred fantasy app. Spewing they got rid of it

 

[RowellAnderson12]

Watched the game in delay. Didn't get to the end without knowing the result because Kayo inexplicably jumped half an hour while at 3/4 time. No surprise, I suppose.

Anyway, just wanted to mention Dream-Stats. I have no involvement, I just appreciate the innovation to provide live Fantasy scores in delay while watching a replay. Great idea and they deserve credit.

Live AFL Dream Team Scores and Stats

Providing live and delayed AFL Dream Team scores and statistics with detailed player graphs and stats to keep your fantasy footy team ahead of the pack.

dream-stats.com

My mates and I preferred fantasy app. Spewing they got rid of it

 

[Sixpence]

My opinion - You don’t need a big dog, it’s one of the big fallacies of fantasy. Last year a lot of people had Laird as a big dog and a walk up captaincy option to start the year. Did not turn out well. The year before it was Steele and Touk. Both underwhelming. This year after only one game we’ve already seen that a million dollar player in Gulden can have a poor start and be set to lose a stack of money (and I daresay a lot of people would have had him as VC/C option last night if the game was the actual start of the fantasy season).

If you like your team as it is and you’re confident that your players are all value and going to produce competitive scores for you each week, you don’t need to spend money for the sake of it.

I daresay there’ll be some way you do end up deciding to spend it between now and next week anyhow, but if not, I wouldn’t bring in a big dog just because you feel you can’t leave money unspent.

Would add Dunkley to that too. Wasn't quite as bad as Laird, but still wasn't the must have starter we initially thought.

 

[Mezzoculo]

My mates and I preferred fantasy app. Spewing they got rid of it

My mates and I preferred fantasy app. Spewing they got rid of it

 

[RowellAnderson12]

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Such a good comment I had to let you know twice

 

[Coasters7]

Would add Dunkley to that too. Wasn't quite as bad as Laird, but still wasn't the must have starter we initially thought.

Counterpoint to that though is you still have a top 6 or 8 player for the entire year and when he starts going nuts and everyone is scrambling to get him in you’re making cash elsewhere, so it’s a bit of a balance because you still need to use multiple trades to get them in eventually.

Take Bont for example. With how high his floor is it’s hard to see him dropping below 950 at any point this year. So that 100k seems like a drop in a bucket compared to how much work you’d need to do to get him in.

I know similar things were said about Laird last year but Bont just feels like a different beast.

 

[Leuy LongerCombo]

Counterpoint to that though is you still have a top 6 or 8 player for the entire year and when he starts going nuts and everyone is scrambling to get him in you’re making cash elsewhere, so it’s a bit of a balance because you still need to use multiple trades to get them in eventually.

Take Bont for example. With how high his floor is it’s hard to see him dropping below 950 at any point this year. So that 100k seems like a drop in a bucket compared to how much work you’d need to do to get him in.

I know similar things were said about Laird last year but Bont just feels like a different beast.

I think the advantage of starting the absolute top tier guys is you don’t get locked into needing a certain player later on, and can bargain hunt a bit better.

If you start with a few player that don’t quiet make that top tier, potentially Newc, Steele, Touk. Your basically locked for paying for Bont, Dawson and Zerrett types at whatever price.

Last year was a good example for me, I was stuck chasing Bont / Dawson mid year, while Brad Crouch was at a great price. I needed to stop the bleeding of points, where I could have easily pick Crouch and potentially another upgrade if I already had Bont or Dawson type over the slightly cheaper options I started with.

 

[Tex Danger]

I think the advantage of starting the absolute top tier guys is you don’t get locked into needing a certain player later on, and can bargain hunt a bit better.

If you start with a few player that don’t quiet make that top tier, potentially Newc, Steele, Touk. Your basically locked for paying for Bont, Dawson and Zerrett types at whatever price.

Last year was a good example for me, I was stuck chasing Bont / Dawson mid year, while Brad Crouch was at a great price. I needed to stop the bleeding of points, where I could have easily pick Crouch and potentially another upgrade if I already had Bont or Dawson type over the slightly cheaper options I started with.

I think the key is to still always trade in the best value. Not get blinded by 1 players big scores as if they’re appropriately priced and someone else is well unders it’s still a better result for you even if it means missing those guys or waiting until you’ve hit a side of nearly top tiers that you can start picking off with smaller upgrsdes

The big win is when you pick an expensive guy who then has another gear (eg priced at 105-110 but is capable of and then does go at 115-120, not the guy whose going at 115 already)

 

[4tune8]

I think the advantage of starting the absolute top tier guys is you don’t get locked into needing a certain player later on, and can bargain hunt a bit better.

If you start with a few player that don’t quiet make that top tier, potentially Newc, Steele, Touk. Your basically locked for paying for Bont, Dawson and Zerrett types at whatever price.

Last year was a good example for me, I was stuck chasing Bont / Dawson mid year, while Brad Crouch was at a great price. I needed to stop the bleeding of points, where I could have easily pick Crouch and potentially another upgrade if I already had Bont or Dawson type over the slightly cheaper options I started with.

I would normally go down the G n R approach even to the extent of running 9 rookies on field and it's served me reasonably well generally making up a lot of spots over the main byes and later into the season even matching the top 10 teams, last years injuries and late outs cruelled my season but I was still matching it with the top teams late in the year. I've also struggled to keep in touch early and fall behind by too much to make up.

This year I'm going with a full value approach with a few players to give me good C/VC options early, like Bont/Daicos, maybe Grundy/Gawn depending on matchups ie: WCE. The rest of the team has to show value so my keepers are Sheezel, Houston and Young in Def, Newcombe, Martin, Crouch and Wines in the mids, Grawndy in the Ruc, Jackson and Heeney Fwd. They may not have the scoring power of the ubers but they're all underpriced given their expected output IMO.

Same deal with 4 MP's who are all well undervalued again IMO, so Zilliams, Fisher, Jordon and Sexton. 2 of those could even be keepers (Fisher and Sexton) given the paucity of Fwd premos.

They've left me with 5 rookie spots to fill with Howes, McKercher, Sanders, Roberts and Reid, who again I expect to score reasonably well. This value approach has also given me a relatively strong bench that I'll need to cover those players on the early byes in particular round 5 when I'll have 5 players missing (for now)

I'm hoping that by chasing the cash and having strong rookies (both on the field and the bench) and MP's that I'll be able to bring in those players I want around the existing structure with maybe a flip or 2 in round 15, then enter the 3rd stage of the season with luxury upgrades. I'm determined to not fall too far behind early and I think that this approach is the best way to navigate the early part of the season.

One of my main worries however is that I'm going to leave a good whack of points on the bench on some of those early byes where I only have 1 player missing, meaning that 4 of the 6 rookies I'm fielding drop off in those best 18 rounds, potentially Sanders, Reid, Howes and Wilson. This is where a G n R team has an advantage as the scoring power of the ubers will outweigh my approach, it also gives an advantage to those teams with a couple of ubers missing those early rounds. I still think that I'll be ahead though with the value approach overall.

Just my 2c

 

[Barrybran]

I think the key is to still always trade in the best value. Not get blinded by 1 players big scores as if they’re appropriately priced and someone else is well unders it’s still a better result for you even if it means missing those guys or waiting until you’ve hit a side of nearly top tiers that you can start picking off with smaller upgrsdes

The big win is when you pick an expensive guy who then has another gear (eg priced at 105-110 but is capable of and then does go at 115-120, not the guy whose going at 115 already)

Yep. I got Bont in for $800k and Butters for under $700k last year. Someone is going to fall in price and be ripe for the picking at some point.

If Bont is clearly the #1 guy this year and doesn't drop in price, you might have to wait until the midseason byes to get him in. As long as the players you do have are outperforming their price point, those with Bont aren't going to get away from you.

A caveat though is being on the right players. Sean Darcy was an excellent pick last year... but Tim English outscored his starting price by the same as Darcy, negating any benefit to Darcy's price increase.

 

[Milo Cyrus]

So far all the subs have come from the named interchange bench. Hope it's a thing.

 

[tigs2010]

So far all the subs have come from the named interchange bench. Hope it's a thing.

Geelong haven't played yet.

 

[Milo Cyrus]

Geelong haven't played yet.

ye olde latey switcherooski...

 

[Phar Ace]

My opinion - You don’t need a big dog, it’s one of the big fallacies of fantasy. Last year a lot of people had Laird as a big dog and a walk up captaincy option to start the year. Did not turn out well. The year before it was Steele and Touk. Both underwhelming. This year after only one game we’ve already seen that a million dollar player in Gulden can have a poor start and be set to lose a stack of money (and I daresay a lot of people would have had him as VC/C option last night if the game was the actual start of the fantasy season).

If you like your team as it is and you’re confident that your players are all value and going to produce competitive scores for you each week, you don’t need to spend money for the sake of it.

I daresay there’ll be some way you do end up deciding to spend it between now and next week anyhow, but if not, I wouldn’t bring in a big dog just because you feel you can’t leave money unspent.

How'd that go again......?

 

[Phar Ace]

So far all the subs have come from the named interchange bench. Hope it's a thing.

Huge sample

 

[Phar Ace]

I would normally go down the G n R approach even to the extent of running 9 rookies on field and it's served me reasonably well generally making up a lot of spots over the main byes and later into the season even matching the top 10 teams, last years injuries and late outs cruelled my season but I was still matching it with the top teams late in the year. I've also struggled to keep in touch early and fall behind by too much to make up.

This year I'm going with a full value approach with a few players to give me good C/VC options early, like Bont/Daicos, maybe Grundy/Gawn depending on matchups ie: WCE. The rest of the team has to show value so my keepers are Sheezel, Houston and Young in Def, Newcombe, Martin, Crouch and Wines in the mids, Grawndy in the Ruc, Jackson and Heeney Fwd. They may not have the scoring power of the ubers but they're all underpriced given their expected output IMO.

Same deal with 4 MP's who are all well undervalued again IMO, so Zilliams, Fisher, Jordon and Sexton. 2 of those could even be keepers (Fisher and Sexton) given the paucity of Fwd premos.

They've left me with 5 rookie spots to fill with Howes, McKercher, Sanders, Roberts and Reid, who again I expect to score reasonably well. This value approach has also given me a relatively strong bench that I'll need to cover those players on the early byes in particular round 5 when I'll have 5 players missing (for now)

I'm hoping that by chasing the cash and having strong rookies (both on the field and the bench) and MP's that I'll be able to bring in those players I want around the existing structure with maybe a flip or 2 in round 15, then enter the 3rd stage of the season with luxury upgrades. I'm determined to not fall too far behind early and I think that this approach is the best way to navigate the early part of the season.

One of my main worries however is that I'm going to leave a good whack of points on the bench on some of those early byes where I only have 1 player missing, meaning that 4 of the 6 rookies I'm fielding drop off in those best 18 rounds, potentially Sanders, Reid, Howes and Wilson. This is where a G n R team has an advantage as the scoring power of the ubers will outweigh my approach, it also gives an advantage to those teams with a couple of ubers missing those early rounds. I still think that I'll be ahead though with the value approach overall.

Just my 2c

I agree.
Can I still have my 1c change please?