No Oppo Supporters 2024 AFL General Discussion

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The AFL isn't responsible for solving world hunger or a ceasefire in Gaza.

The fact that it was a private function and someone felt strongly enough to blow the whistle is a clue.

Do you think that nothing is out of bounds at a company Christmas party?
In modern society, there are those who delight in taking offence.

This sounds like a perennially offended type deciding to dob on people having a bit of politically incorrect but legal fun at a private party.

And if that’s the case - my view is that suspensions are unfair & quite frankly, a disgrace.

If more sinister details come to light, I’ll have a different view - but for now, it reeks of faux-outrage.
 
In modern society, there are those who delight in taking offence.

This sounds like a perennially offended type deciding to dob on people having a bit of politically incorrect but legal fun at a private party.

And if that’s the case - my view is that suspensions are unfair & quite frankly, a disgrace.

If more sinister details come to light, I’ll have a different view - but for now, it reeks of faux-outrage.
It's a disgrace when you've got no idea whatsoever what the behaviour might have been?

Given some of the popular stories in the media at the moment it doesn't require much imagination to see how badly this may have gone.
 

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It's a disgrace when you've got no idea whatsoever what the behaviour might have been?

Given some of the popular stories in the media at the moment it doesn't require much imagination to see how badly this may have gone.
It was a “celebrity couples” dress up party & nothing illegal occurred, nor did it involve any members of the public.

That much has been reported.

But anyway, I’ll pipe down on this now - as we may (or may not) get more detail down the track. And I hate it when get myself all riled up over these things.

The good news - it’s going to hurt GWS. I can only imagine how p*ssed off the playing group will be with the club, if they dole out suspensions viewed as corporate moral posturing.
 
In modern society, there are those who delight in taking offence.

This sounds like a perennially offended type deciding to dob on people having a bit of politically incorrect but legal fun at a private party.

And if that’s the case - my view is that suspensions are unfair & quite frankly, a disgrace.

If more sinister details come to light, I’ll have a different view - but for now, it reeks of faux-outrage.
Probably not worth going heavy on the framing when we don't really know what it was.

There's certain things with different connotations that don't personally offend/hurt me, aside from the stupidity and lack of empathy of it, but I could see why it would be a personal problem for some, particularly in a social event for work. And that's only if it's aesthetics and not behaviour (which is also reported).

If it's at a hotel, even if it's a private event, it's in public though.
 
The world has far bigger problems than drunken footy players presumably doing some politically incorrect (but not illegal) things at a private function.

But of course, the AFL will once again prove themselves to be our self-appointed moral guardians.

Thankyou AFL, for without you, I would clearly not be on the path of true virtue and enlightenment.
So you'd be fine with, for example, racist chanting and a bit of casual blackface as long as it was a private function?
 
It was a “celebrity couples” dress up party & nothing illegal occurred, nor did it involve any members of the public.

That much has been reported.

But anyway, I’ll pipe down on this now - as we may (or may not) get more detail down the track. And I hate it when get myself all riled up over these things.

The good news - it’s going to hurt GWS. I can only imagine how p*ssed off the playing group will be with the club, if they dole out suspensions viewed as corporate moral posturing.
Fair enough.

I get it, and it's entirely possible that if the details come out I'd be right there with you saying it's overkill.

All I'm really saying is that I think there is a line, over which this sort of reaction might be warranted, even at a private function.
 
Surely there’s more to the story than this? View attachment 2143638
I mean if they're joking about and re-enacting sexual assault (what Diddy is alleged to have done), at a public venue (hotel) even if it's a separate room, and at a work related function (given staff and possibly partners were there at various points) then it's not nothing.
 

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I mean if they're joking about and re-enacting sexual assault (what Diddy is alleged to have done), at a public venue (hotel) even if it's a separate room, and at a work related function (given staff and possibly partners were there at various points) then it's not nothing.
I understand the trouble with Diddy but Raygun should be okay though?
 
I mean if they're joking about and re-enacting sexual assault (what Diddy is alleged to have done), at a public venue (hotel) even if it's a separate room, and at a work related function (given staff and possibly partners were there at various points) then it's not nothing.
It’s also an internal workplace matter for the club given those circumstances. I don’t think the AFL have a role.
 
It’s also an internal workplace matter for the club given those circumstances. I don’t think the AFL have a role.
This is where I'm seeing it as an overreaction from the AFL- pending further information.
From what I've read so far, it seems like the AFL are being the morals police here on something that was totally in house.
 
The AFL don't have a role in the workplace conditions and public behaviour (which it was) of one of their teams, that they own and fund?

Ok...
It's a slippery slope isn't it. And I say this without knowing the full facts.
On one hand for the AFL to dish out a $20k fine to Greene just because he is a leader is...strong.
GWS investigated and gave the tick of approval without sanctions. So does the AFL now relieve the GWS board/staff of their duties because of this? Where are the fines for the people that reviewed that? If not, why? Wouldn't giving "that type of behaviour" the green light be just as bad as the "incident" itself?
Again, this was a private event. That doesn't matter if it's at the Casino in a private room. It's a private event. The below were all done in public and nothing was done.

Why wasn't Konstanty fined/suspended for his part in the Mills incident last year? The AFL knew about it and didn't investigate (I didn't see that publicly anyway). You can say it was just a simple accident, but that doesn't matter. The same thing as this, at different degrees by the look of it obviously, but it is all about the AFL brand. Slippery Slope.

Why wasn't Clayton Oliver investigated and suspended/fined when he was running down the middle of a street clearly off his head on drugs damaging cars? Everyone knows about it. The AFL did nothing.

Why wasn't Stengle investigated and suspended/fined for passing out at the nightclub earlier this year? He was rushed to hospital. That was most definitely in the public space. This isn't the first time for Stengle either. AAANNNDD nothing. Dangerfield came out in defense of Stengle and said he made an error in judgement. An error in judgement is passing out at a Geelong nightclub and needing to be taken to emergency by ambulance?

The list goes on and on.
 

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