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Yeah sorry I meant Wagner in the 1st team
I reckon he meant to put Wagner.
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On Switkowski, whilst he undoubtedly does need to work on hitting the scoreboard, he did have the 5th most score involvements of any Docker in 2023 and had a pretty good average in 2022 (average used because he missed a ton of games). So he doesn't kick enough goals, but is often involved in a lot of them. He was also 6th for the Dockers in goal assists. He had 4 more assists and 9 more involvements than Jye Amiss, whilst Amiss had 25 more goals. If he can close this discrepancy between 13 extra involvements and 25 less goals to a difference to around half, then he would become an extremely valuable player.
Even with the current discrepancy, he still seems too valuable to go past, at least for another year or two. But TBF I am a fan of Switta, his ability to be clean in traffic and have speed in traffic is quite valuable IMO.
Even with the current discrepancy, he still seems too valuable to go past, at least for another year or two. But TBF I am a fan of Switta, his ability to be clean in traffic and have speed in traffic is quite valuable IMO.
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Switowski is an interesting one, I think he plays a lot more midfield minutes than people realise, which is why he ranks elite for a lot of small forward statistics but doesn’t kick as many goals as most small forwards, with Schultz leaving does Switta spend more time forward, or do we bring Emmett in to play the Schultz pressure forward role and leave Switowski where he is.
I think he's not naturally a dangerous forward, his kicking can lack penetration and he doesn't have the keen eye for goal great small forwards have.
But he creates via his lateral movement and good awareness, that's why I think he plays better a bit higher up.
I think his 2023 wasn't great but he still has decent impact and can really turn moments in games, which is probably what triggered me on the previous comments.
Let's view this as a depth chart - in order of selection likelihood based off last year's team selection.
KPD: Pearce, Cox, McDonald, Davies, Draper, Murphy
GD: Ryan, Clark, Chapman, Walker, Hughes, Wagner, Worner, Williams
OM: Aish, Sharp, O'Driscoll, Stanley
IM: Brayshaw, Serong, O'Meara, Young, Johnson, Erasmus, Simpson (Fyfe)
R: Darcy, Jackson, Reidy, Knobel
KPF: Amiss, Treacy, Jones (Tabs, Kuek, Corbett)
GF: Walters, Switkowski, Frederick, Sturt, Banfield, Emmett, Delean
I imagine the bold are locks for the current coaching staff.
Italics represents players on the fringe, and brackets players who are either LTI or unreliable with fitness.
The rest are either new draftees or prospects who probably don't get a game unless we're in serious trouble with injury or form.
KPD: Pearce, Cox, McDonald, Davies, Draper, Murphy
GD: Ryan, Clark, Chapman, Walker, Hughes, Wagner, Worner, Williams
OM: Aish, Sharp, O'Driscoll, Stanley
IM: Brayshaw, Serong, O'Meara, Young, Johnson, Erasmus, Simpson (Fyfe)
R: Darcy, Jackson, Reidy, Knobel
KPF: Amiss, Treacy, Jones (Tabs, Kuek, Corbett)
GF: Walters, Switkowski, Frederick, Sturt, Banfield, Emmett, Delean
I imagine the bold are locks for the current coaching staff.
Italics represents players on the fringe, and brackets players who are either LTI or unreliable with fitness.
The rest are either new draftees or prospects who probably don't get a game unless we're in serious trouble with injury or form.
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Johnson is a lock for an OM role until he pushes JOM out of the IM role. I’d be Bolding him.
Good post; I agree with it generally but you missed off Brodie from IM.
I know there is a lot of talk about Chapman playing wing and Young midfield in 2024 with Wagner and Worner replacing them as backs. I actually think both Young and Chapman could dominate in the midfield, but after thinking about it I’ve gone the other way. Wagner and Worner are a massive downgrades to our back line compared to Chapman and Young. To
Improve in 2024 we need guys like Johnson, Erasmus, Brodie, O’Driscoll, Sharp, Stanley and Simpson to step up and DEMAND a midfield spot and keep Chapman and Young out of the midfield. Otherwise we’re just robbing Peter to pay Paul.
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I like Emmett forward. He had the best goal average this year even when the sample size was pretty small...
52 goals when he plays all games. But probably will improve in his second year. So likely 60+.
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Absolutely, my preference would be he replaces Young in the middle whenever he’s on the bench to have a break, so 15-20% TOG as IM until he’s built his inside game enough to also be the Bradshaw rotation as well. You really only need 4 players playing 75% inside mid to fill 100% TOG in the 3 positions (hence the awesome foursome tagline of the Lions premiership years) AB, Serong, Young and Johnson can be that. Right now however we have excess IM players in JOM, Brodie, Erasmus and Fyfe while the Wing as our weakest position, Johnson has the pace, height and endurance to play a wing role until a Sharp/Stanley/NOD prove themselves as viable options there.
He kicked 15 in 17 games at Peel, if he gets 25-30 for the year he would have done well. Charlie Cameron kicked 59 in 2023.
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Was not a dead serious post.
Wait and see. From memory he didn't play exclusivly as forward at Peel, so he could do better. But have to agree 25-30 at AFL would be a great achievment.
For a couple of reasons I think we can lose one of Young or Chapman to the midfield without too many alarm bells going off. I'd keep Young in the midfield and monitor what the wing options we have with Chapman a consideration.
A good midfield is a massive part of being a good defensive side. Young on ball has a really good defensive and attacking combination.
We have several other players who can fit into our defence including Aish. I'm mentioning Aish because surely we expect to see more of Johnson, Erasmus and O'Driscoll, and I also think Simpson and Stanley can debut. Will they play in defense? I don't think so.
Walker is coming back and weaponising the run of Walker, Wagner and Clark should be the beginnings of the tweaking of our 2024 game plan. Young will roll back from the midfield and be a part of that, as could Chapman from the wing.
I agree we should have some decent options, Wagner showed he can play a role.
Clark was playing a more accountable role this year, if Walker comes back hopefully they can swap those roles depending on the opponent, and bring a little bit of unpredictability in games too.
I agree with you, but I still think of a couple of those young midfielders can improve enough to keep Young and Chapman as backs then and e are better off. The best of both worlds still have Young’s run and delivery. If either Wagner or Worner are in our best 22 we are in trouble.
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Wagner has shown he has good run and carry, but has absolutely zero defensive capabilities. I still can’t get over how easily David Swallow pushed him off the ball and took a mark in the GC game.
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I was impressed and a little surprised by Wagner, don't think he looks out of place at AFL level.
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Is Brandon Walker expected to be fit round 1?
Overall I think we lack depth in the small and medium forward position especially to trouble the top sides deep in finals.
For example - I look at the best 23s being selected and there is still a good chance that Banfield will play a lot of games this year. Delean is a pick 60, very much speculative territory yet there is a huge need already for him to be a hit not a bust. Unless Walters has a worldie of a season and winds back the clock (not impossible but unlikely, we need to be realistic) we have no real proven match winners in attack apart from Jye.
I love Switta but Jeez - it’s ten years hard labour to get a goal out of him and small forward who don’t have any goal nous are severely limited despite his other great traits.
Frederick - another guy that fades in and out of games. I like him too and he is improving unlike Switta who isn’t going to change much more now at 27 years of age. But Freddy is inconsistent. When he’s good he’s good but when he’s bad he’s horrible. At one point this year many fans wanted him dropped after about 6 terrible games in a row.
Sturt - love him. Always been a big fan but in all honestly he’s got a huge amount to prove still. great finish to last season but can he lift it another level in 2024 and become a bonafide AFL medium forward that a lock-in the team sheet every week? He still emerging from the pack but I do rate him.
Emmett - looked great in the 2 games he played but is still virtually completely unproven, who knows that he could be really.
Banfield is actually a great barometer for next year. If he’s getting gametime over players like Sturt and Emmett, we are in trouble, that will mean the old Sam Sturt has showed up instead of the version that played the last 10 games in 2023 and Emmett is not as good as we all hope.
Another option of course is to build some positional flexibility into players like Erasmus, Simpson, even Brodie and get them into the 22 that way on the half forward flank. For some reason JL doesn’t seem to like this strategy. Our forwards are not that amazing that we can’t somehow upset their balance and let some midfielders with talent and an eye for goal like Erasmus have a crack and become a versatile Half forward flanker…
For example - I look at the best 23s being selected and there is still a good chance that Banfield will play a lot of games this year. Delean is a pick 60, very much speculative territory yet there is a huge need already for him to be a hit not a bust. Unless Walters has a worldie of a season and winds back the clock (not impossible but unlikely, we need to be realistic) we have no real proven match winners in attack apart from Jye.
I love Switta but Jeez - it’s ten years hard labour to get a goal out of him and small forward who don’t have any goal nous are severely limited despite his other great traits.
Frederick - another guy that fades in and out of games. I like him too and he is improving unlike Switta who isn’t going to change much more now at 27 years of age. But Freddy is inconsistent. When he’s good he’s good but when he’s bad he’s horrible. At one point this year many fans wanted him dropped after about 6 terrible games in a row.
Sturt - love him. Always been a big fan but in all honestly he’s got a huge amount to prove still. great finish to last season but can he lift it another level in 2024 and become a bonafide AFL medium forward that a lock-in the team sheet every week? He still emerging from the pack but I do rate him.
Emmett - looked great in the 2 games he played but is still virtually completely unproven, who knows that he could be really.
Banfield is actually a great barometer for next year. If he’s getting gametime over players like Sturt and Emmett, we are in trouble, that will mean the old Sam Sturt has showed up instead of the version that played the last 10 games in 2023 and Emmett is not as good as we all hope.
Another option of course is to build some positional flexibility into players like Erasmus, Simpson, even Brodie and get them into the 22 that way on the half forward flank. For some reason JL doesn’t seem to like this strategy. Our forwards are not that amazing that we can’t somehow upset their balance and let some midfielders with talent and an eye for goal like Erasmus have a crack and become a versatile Half forward flanker…
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