F1 2024 Brazilian Grand Prix - Race Weekend Thread

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How utterly despondent were Karun and Crofty late in the race
Like when BT's team is losing.

Makes listening to their insufferable comments during the GP nearly worthwhile when their boy ****s up again... this time ending any chances of winning the championship.

Max showed today why he is a far more worthy winner with one of the all-time best drives to win.
 
Agree. Why have a wet tyre at all when drivers know they can just play chess and ice skate around on inters and force the red flag for a free stop.

There were 3 or 4 drivers who took the punt on wets and were making their way through the field only for it to be taken off them..

The wets are there and everyone should have been forced to either hit the wall or pit for the wets first before you red flag an event.

I think it all boils down to the spray that kicks up once its full wet mode. It's always considered too dangerous.

The ones on the full wets weren't making their
way through the field, they weren't on them long enough before the safety car and then the red flag to tell.

Don't get carried away by a commentator's excited utterance that Perez had taken 6 seconds out of someone. Not one single driver on full wets passed one single driver on inters before the safety car / red flag.

Tsunoda was 6th, Lawson 10th, Perez 14th, Zhou and Hulkenberg 17th and 18th, then Colapinto destroyed his car and those two moved up to remain last and second last of the cars still running.
 
There's what the wet tyres can handle in terms of grip, and then there's the spray that's thrown up by the cars. No point having grip if you can't see what's coming at you. The wets aren't the issue, if anything they work too well because the water they displace creates a rooster tail in itself. But also the ground effect changes that came in 2022 magnified the spray issue considerably.
 

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There's what the wet tyres can handle in terms of grip, and then there's the spray that's thrown up by the cars. No point having grip if you can't see what's coming at you. The wets aren't the issue, if anything they work too well because the water they displace creates a rooster tail in itself. But also the ground effect changes that came in 2022 magnified the spray issue considerably.
The wet's apparently don't work that well because it takes ages to get heat into them. Then the spray is obviously worse anyway.
 
Probably cost McLaren a point & Oscar a position with the 10 second penalty.

It's not like Lando was going to overtake a heap of drivers on the wet track... as he's no Max.
I was actually shocked that the only driver doing any amount of overtaking was Max... I though for sure some others could at least do a few but nope.

Just goes to show how good Max is in the wet when he is on.
 
Well that was a pretty nuts few days... That was the championship decider alright. Crazy good seats on the Sun where i could see close to two thirds of the action where cars wind through that middle section before screaming through on to the main straight. Very boisterous atmosphere till Max got through, then things fell very flat -- so Sky commentators (as i read on here), were not the only ones to lose interest

But that was a 10/10 drive. Extraordinary. For Lando to say luck was involved is laughable given the conditions. With that said, no red flags in the last 20 laps and track drying out was nothing short of a miracle. Ocon was building a sizeable lead before Colapinto's smash, so it could've been a very different result otherwise. New surface made overtaking very, very hard. So if anyone was to moan about bad luck, it was him. But that was a 9/10 drive to Ocon and def one of the best drives of his career.
As for Stroll, if he weren't the boss' son he should be sacked. After all the hard work the Aston Martin mechanics put in, to crash on the parade lap is absolutely unacceptable. And speaking of hacks, Colapinto likewise. That was some real Latifi shit right there. The fact that happened in front of my stand full of chanting Argentians did it make it very enjoyable though
Thought Hamilton was very disappointing too No where near it all weekend. What happened to his reputation of being a wet weather specialist? (Though his laps in Senna's car was arguably the highlight of a very action packed weekend).
Still havent watched the replay but what happened on Oscar's last lap in Q3? Cost him dearly!
 
Well that was a pretty nuts few days... That was the championship decider alright. Crazy good seats on the Sun where i could see close to two thirds of the action where cars wind through that middle section before screaming through on to the main straight. Very boisterous atmosphere till Max got through, then things fell very flat -- so Sky commentators (as i read on here), were not the only ones to lose interest

But that was a 10/10 drive. Extraordinary. For Lando to say luck was involved is laughable given the conditions. With that said, no red flags in the last 20 laps and track drying out was nothing short of a miracle. Ocon was building a sizeable lead before Colapinto's smash, so it could've been a very different result otherwise. New surface made overtaking very, very hard. So if anyone was to moan about bad luck, it was him. But that was a 9/10 drive to Ocon and def one of the best drives of his career.
As for Stroll, if he weren't the boss' son he should be sacked. After all the hard work the Aston Martin mechanics put in, to crash on the parade lap is absolutely unacceptable. And speaking of hacks, Colapinto likewise. That was some real Latifi shit right there. The fact that happened in front of my stand full of chanting Argentians did it make it very enjoyable though
Thought Hamilton was very disappointing too No where near it all weekend. What happened to his reputation of being a wet weather specialist? (Though his laps in Senna's car was arguably the highlight of a very action packed weekend).
Still havent watched the replay but what happened on Oscar's last lap in Q3? Cost him dearly!
Locked up at T1
 
Well that was a pretty nuts few days... That was the championship decider alright. Crazy good seats on the Sun where i could see close to two thirds of the action where cars wind through that middle section before screaming through on to the main straight. Very boisterous atmosphere till Max got through, then things fell very flat -- so Sky commentators (as i read on here), were not the only ones to lose interest

But that was a 10/10 drive. Extraordinary. For Lando to say luck was involved is laughable given the conditions. With that said, no red flags in the last 20 laps and track drying out was nothing short of a miracle. Ocon was building a sizeable lead before Colapinto's smash, so it could've been a very different result otherwise. New surface made overtaking very, very hard. So if anyone was to moan about bad luck, it was him. But that was a 9/10 drive to Ocon and def one of the best drives of his career.
As for Stroll, if he weren't the boss' son he should be sacked. After all the hard work the Aston Martin mechanics put in, to crash on the parade lap is absolutely unacceptable. And speaking of hacks, Colapinto likewise. That was some real Latifi shit right there. The fact that happened in front of my stand full of chanting Argentians did it make it very enjoyable though
Thought Hamilton was very disappointing too No where near it all weekend. What happened to his reputation of being a wet weather specialist? (Though his laps in Senna's car was arguably the highlight of a very action packed weekend).
Still havent watched the replay but what happened on Oscar's last lap in Q3? Cost him dearly!
Hamilton spent his afternoon whining about his car
 
I was actually shocked that the only driver doing any amount of overtaking was Max... I though for sure some others could at least do a few but nope.

Just goes to show how good Max is in the wet when he is on.
Even Max only managed 1 overtake after about the 20th lap. He went through the field like a bad case of diarrhoea in the early stages, but then he got stuck on the back of the Tsunoda train and couldn't get past LeClerc. The only overtake he did after that was on Ocon, catching him straight after a SC re-start.
 
Am intrigued to watch the replay for these added insights. Def the best thing about going to F1 live is focussing on the 'other' battles. Hate to say it but Lawson impressed for the most part
What did you make of Bearman and Colapinto live?
 
What did you make of Bearman and Colapinto live?
Colapinto's move on Hamilton was exciting but the fact he smashed his car twice on the same day sums up where he is at. Hard pass. Liam Lawson much the better racer in terms of any discussion for that future RB seat. Haas will be very happy to have Bearman onboard next year but after a strong weekend he went missing in the the rain Sun. Not the only one.
 

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Not sure about that.

Finishing 3rd in the teams will be a dent to their egos.

Maybe but this is the issue with driver sponsorship and why they should change it. I think the $ will keep Sergio In.
 

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