List Mgmt. 2024 Draft Class

[Jen2310]

What’s the knock on Harry Armstrong? Thought he’d be a first rounder key forward

Think he's just coming from a long way back. He had a fantastic last game. Cal has him at #14 though, so thats first round

 

[Obese Arachnid]

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Whitlock started the season being used as a key defender but has shown he is more than comfortable heading forward as well, including booting two goals for Vic Country against the Allies. His running ability is strong for a player his size and his versatility will appeal – he's had two five-goal games for the Bushrangers but is able to adapt to defensive positions too.

Faull is strong, aggressive and physical, with his socks-up style lending itself to an old-fashioned appeal. But his past month has done plenty for his draft stocks having missed the first half of the season with a back injury. He returned for the Rebels and snagged five goals in his first game of the season, and also had presence through his three Vic Country appearances, including a three-goal effort against the Allies

Sims is big, strong, flies for his marks and generates shots on goal. He started his season with a five-goal game against the Western Jets and later on monstered Oakleigh with a 7.4 performance from 15 kicks and 10 marks. Sims kicked 3.3 against Western Australia for Vic Metro then had an 'almost' day against Vic Country last week with three behinds, but showed more than enough to be ranked alongside the other key-position forwards in the group.

Mraz is a difficult player to place given his season was cut short by a navicular foot injury in April. It means he missed all of the under-18 championships, where his versatility was expected to be an important part of Vic Country's campaign. Mraz can play as a key-position player at either end of the ground but showed his intercept ability as a tall defender early in Dandenong's season.

Worrying signs, looks like 3 of the 4 are rangas.

 

[Hotpiescoldbeers]

Think he's just coming from a long way back. He had a fantastic last game. Cal has him at #14 though, so thats first round

Whoops, didn’t see him there

 

[Harry O]

What’s the knock on Harry Armstrong? Thought he’d be a first rounder key forward

Cal Twomey has him 14 currently. In a strong group that is pretty highly rated

 

[Harry O]

Worrying signs, looks like 3 of the 4 are rangas.

Dekka loves a Gippsland Smokey. Lock in Tauru. Cal has him #24

 

[manicpie]

Some key talls around his rankings where our pick currently is- 26

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Sims is the one I want

 

[Harry O]

Sims is the one I want

Jeremy? Worth taking a Chances on

 

[manicpie]

Jeremy? Worth taking a Chances on

Nah, Thomas

 

[danielnajdek]

I said it last year when we did the trade that we never should’ve budged and given up our future first. A high pick in this draft would’ve been handy.

 

[Jen2310]

I said it last year when we did the trade that we never should’ve budged and given up our future first. A high pick in this draft would’ve been handy.

Yeah, multiple of us said we should have walked away or said current first only. But, its done now. Lets hope we can learn our lesson, and just focus on who we can get. Good thing its a pretty good depth this year so we'll still likely get some good players.

 

[Harry O]

Yeah, multiple of us said we should have walked away or said current first only. But, its done now. Lets hope we can learn our lesson, and just focus on who we can get. Good thing its a pretty good depth this year so we'll still likely get some good players.

You are conflicted because of the Ginnivan link though.
Fly wanted Schultz because he suited the game plan more than a drug taking , downhill skiing , Kmart Duckwood

 

[Jen2310]

You are conflicted because of the Ginnivan link though.
Fly wanted Schultz because he suited the game plan more than a drug taking , downhill skiing , Kmart Duckwood

No, most of us were looking at it from a trade pov, and gambling on futures has never worked out well for us in the past. With an old list, we were never gonna get much better where there was always a risk of us declining especially if injuries came; and they did.
The player himself is fine (while not living up to what we paid) but what is paid is the talking point. Thats all.

But hindslight is a wonderful thing I suppose. Anyway we move on and hope we can trade a little back into this draft.

 

[Jen2310]

ALLIES​

THE STAR: LEO LOMBARD

The Gold Coast Suns Academy member was a joint winner of the Larke Medal as the best-performed player of the tournament.

A prolific ball-winning onballer who can also feature forward or back, Lombard works hard contest-to-contest, is incredibly clean with his hands and skills, brings great energy and can have an impact on the scoreboard.

He averaged 26.3 disposals, 4.8 clearances, 4.5 tackles and kicked four goals across his four games.

“He certainly caught the eye with his explosiveness and power and I think that’s his main weapon, is his ability to be able to break through traffic and get on to double-up possessions through his hard work,” Allies coach Mitch Hahn

Mitch Hahn

Age

43

Ht

188cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

0.2

3star

G

0.0

1star

said of Lombard.

“He was able to win some clearances but more importantly was able to hit the scoreboard as well. He challenged the opposition defenders to say, well, if you don’t go with me, I can hurt you on the scoreboard. He’s going to be a really good prospect for the draft with those attributes that he’s got.”


THE SURPRISE: JOBE SHANAHAN

A 194cm forward who is mobile, presents well and can take a strong contested mark, Shanahan would have climbed up some draft boards with his performances during the championships.

His best game was his last against Vic Country, when he logged 16 disposals, nine marks (four contested) and kicked 3.1 for the Allies.

Shanahan has been a regular goalkicker for the Bendigo Pioneers in the Coates Talent League this season, but played for the Allies given he resides in Moama just over the New South Wales border.

“From a tall perspective, he was someone who just continued to build and get better as the program went along,” Hahn said of Shanahan.

“His marking ability and movement around the ground was something that really helped us in that last game against Vic Country, especially to be able to keep us as close as we were. His ability to be able to hit the scoreboard, to work out and bring others into it was important for us. He was a really solid contributor for us across the four games as well.”

U18 Champs SuperCoach Averages: Allies​

Initial	Surname	Position	Games	Average
N	Andreacchio	Gen Def	3	77.0
D	Annable	Mid	4	106.0
C	Bell	Key Fwd	4	58.3
L	Carmichael	Gen Def	4	81.5
N	Chamberlain	Mid-Fwd	2	75.0
J	Cochran	Key Def	4	65.8
W	Davey-Motlop	Gen Fwd	1	32.0
O	Dean	Ruck	1	34.0
J	Delana	Mid	4	78.8
O	Depaoli-Kubank	Mid-Fwd	4	72.8
L	Douglas	Gen Fwd	3	45.0
T	Gallop	Key Fwd	2	12.5
R	Gilder	Gen Def	4	39.3
T	Gillett	Ruck	1	57.0
J	Harrison	Mid	3	44.0
L	Hogan	Mid	2	71.5
B	Kennedy	Gen Def	4	59.8
L	Lombard	Mid	4	119.8
S	Marshall	Mid	4	123.0
F	McFadyen	Mid-Fwd	4	46.3
R	Mentha	Gen Fwd	2	25.5
Z	Millane	Gen Def	2	42.0
J	Murphy	Key Fwd	4	64.5
B	Richardson	Ruck	3	58.3
J	Shanahan	Key Fwd	4	77.0
L	Smith	Ruck	4	80.0
T	Stanley	Mid	2	80.0
N	Sulzberger	Mid	4	44.3
Z	Uwland	Mid	4	106.0
K	White	Key Def	1	39.0

SOUTH AUSTRALIA​

THE STAR: BEN CAMPOREALE

Carlton fans have plenty to be excited about after father-son prospect Ben Camporeale produced an impressive under-18 national championships campaign for South Australia.

Camporeale was named the side’s MVP after averaging 26.8 disposals, 5.3 marks and 4.5 clearances across a very consistent four games.

The son of Blues premiership player Scott, Camporeale is clean in the contest, has a good balance between his inside and outside game, brings elite workrate and is creative going forward.

“He played as an inside mid for us in all four games. Totally different role,” South Australia coach Tony Bamford said.

“He was able to impact in contest and stoppage really, really well. Kicking’s still a work in progress in terms of his connection with forwards going inside 50, but most midfielders need to work on that. But his leadership, his contest, his energy and drive and his ability to set us up around the contest was really important as an inside mid.”


THE SURPRISE: CHARLIE NICHOLLS

He might not have been South Australia’s best or most consistent player of the championships, but Nicholls showed more than a few exciting glimpses.

A 197cm key forward who leads well and can take strong contested marks, Nicholls particularly impressed in the side’s second game against Vic Country when he racked up 11 disposals, nine marks (four contested) and kicked 1.3.

“He played as a key forward in the first three games and then we put him to a key back position for game four,” Bamford said.

“He runs great patterns. He was clearly a smart forward in terms of knowing where to go and when to go. He clearly likes to run. He’s getting up the ground and it gives him an ability to showcase his running power as opposed to staying deep.

“He’s really elevated himself this year and we’re really pleased for him. He’s a kid from the Barossa so he’s had to travel an hour and a half each way to get the training during the last three months. So he’s really committed.”

U18 Champs SuperCoach Averages: South Australia​

Initial	Surname	Position	Games	Average
N	Atkinson	Gen Fwd	1	31.0
H	Barker	Gen Def	3	50.3
B	Barrett	Mid	2	67.0
R	Borlace	Ruck	1	57.0
N	Bowman	Gen Fwd	4	44.5
E	Bradley	Gen Fwd	4	51.8
R	Burgoyne	Gen Def	1	58.0
B	Camporeale	Mid	4	116.5
L	Camporeale	Mid	4	90.3
A	Clarke	Key Def	4	92.5
S	Cumming	Mid	2	76.5
T	Delmenico	Key Def	3	36.7
H	Dodd	Mid	1	54.0
A	Dodson	Ruck	3	114.0
S	Draper	Mid	4	77.5
P	Hargrave	Mid	4	88.5
J	Hasting	Mid	4	52.8
K	Herbert	Mid	4	53.8
N	Howes	Key Fwd	2	68.5
T	McKay	Key Fwd	4	51.3
L	Montgomery	Gen Def	4	59.0
J	Newton	Mid	4	72.8
C	Nicholls	Key Fwd	4	60.8
J	Phillipou	Mid	1	23.0
H	Ramm	Ruck	3	28.7
T	Rosenzweig	Key Fwd	2	28.5
D	Sharp	Mid	4	109.5
J	Sheean	Key Def	4	57.8
D	Sterzl	Mid	1	36.0
T	Welsh	Key Fwd	4	50.8
C	West	Key Fwd	2	88.5

VIC COUNTRY​

THE STAR: HARVEY LANGFORD

A powerful midfielder from the Dandenong Stingrays, Langford finished the tournament not only as Vic Country’s MVP but also as a joint winner of the Larke Medal.

A hardworking contest star, Langford also has a booming kick when he finds space on the outside and can take a strong mark.

He averaged 25.5 disposals, 6.3 clearances and 7.5 score involvements across his four games for Vic Country.

“He was superb from the first game against SA,” Vic Country coach Paul Corrigan said.

“He just carried that form through for us. He pretty much played the whole time in the middle. He was exceptional around stoppages and clearances.

“He also found a lot of ball on the outside, but also proved on the weekend he’s got that aerial prowess to go forward and mark the footy and hit the scoreboard as well. I just thought his whole campaign was super consistent and really impressive for us.”


THE SURPRISE: JOE BERRY

While he didn’t necessarily surprise after a strong start to the season with the Murray Bushrangers, Berry’s stocks did rise during the championships.

The clever 180cm forward from Wangaratta who can hurt opposition sides in multiple ways, Berry booted nine goals across his four matches during the tournament including a 14-disposal and three-goal game against Vic Metro last weekend.

“I thought his carnival as well was exceptional as a small forward,” Corrigan said.

“He’s just so lively. He’s one of those players that can play deep one-on-one, he can come up the ground. His defensive acts were really good. He’s got really good speed and power. He hits the scoreboard, too. The other thing that we liked about him too was we injected him through the midfield at times and he just gave us a different spark at times and that ability to change up what was in there.”

U18 Champs SuperCoach Averages: Vic Country​

Initial	Surname	Position	Games	Average
J	Alger	Gen Fwd	4	60.0
R	Andrew	Mid	1	47.0
J	Barrat	Key Fwd	3	60.3
J	Berry	Gen Fwd	4	85.3
F	Burmeister	Ruck	4	44.0
H	Charleson	Mid	4	73.3
A	Day-Wicks	Gen Fwd	3	65.0
J	Doherty	Ruck	1	34.0
W	Duursma	Key Def	3	68.3
J	Faull	Key Fwd	3	59.0
O	Hannaford	Mid	3	56.3
N	Hibbins-Hargreaves	Gen Fwd	1	65.0
C	Hynes	Mid	4	90.0
X	Ivisic	Mid	4	103.8
L	Jaques	Gen Def	4	90.3
S	Lalor	Mid	3	80.7
H	Langford	Mid	4	129.8
X	Lindsay	Mid	3	116.7
M	Lloyd	Key Def	2	70.0
F	O'Sullivan	Mid	2	56.0
R	Onley	Mid	3	63.7
J	Ough	Mid	4	68.8
C	Paul	Mid	1	20.0
F	Penry	Ruck	1	39.0
R	Stevens	Mid-Fwd	2	75.0
A	Tauru	Key Def	3	42.0
T	Travaglia	Mid	4	112.0
R	Unwin	Gen Fwd	2	36.5
O	Warburton	Mid	4	75.5
J	Whitlock	Key Fwd	4	96.0
M	Whitlock	Key Def	4	70.8

VIC METRO​

THE STAR: MURPHY REID

All the buzz about Vic Metro’s midfield heading into the championships surrounded Josh Smillie, Levi Ashcroft and Jagga Smith.

However, it was Murphy Reid that upstaged that trio to take out the side’s MVP award.

The Sandringham Dragons midfielder was clean, composed and consistent across his four matches as he averaged 24.5 disposals, 7.3 score involvements and one goals.

“He’s a top-end talent in his own right,” Vic Metro coach Rob Harding said of Reid.

“The first game in the wet against the Allies, he was the cleanest player on the ground by a mile. He had 30-something and kicked three goals in one of the games (against South Australia). He just kept playing well consistently through this tournament. The thing I love about Murph is every time he gets challenged with another level, he meets it really quickly. He hasn’t found a level that has been too hard for him.”


THE SURPRISE: HARRY ARMSTRONG

If there’s one game where you want to star during the national championships, it is the clash between Vic Metro and Vic Country at Marvel Stadium which was attended by almost every recruiter in the land.

Harry Armstrong did just that.

A 195cm forward from the Sandringham Dragons, Armstrong put his strong contested marking ability and accurate goalkicking on show in a nine-disposal, five-mark and five-goal performance.

He also booted three goals in Vic Metro’s third match against South Australia.

“He’s played really good school football, but that’s at a lower level than Coates League or a national championship,” Harding said.

“He’s just adapted really well through the year. He keeps building and developing his game. I watched him on Sunday, strong hands, big, strong contested marks – which is the strength that he has – and he’s a beautiful set shot at goal. On a day when we weren’t kicking very straight, he’s the one that kicks five straight, and he gives us an opportunity to be in that game to win it.”

U18 Champs SuperCoach Averages: Vic Metro​

Initial	Surname	Position	Games	Average
C	Anderson	Mid	1	20.0
H	Armstrong	Key Fwd	3	100.0
L	Ashcroft	Mid	4	99.8
A	Cole	Key Def	3	55.3
J	Dattoli	Mid	4	77.8
J	Dolan	Gen Fwd	3	66.3
L	Emmett	Ruck	2	45.5
L	Grego	Mid	4	79.5
T	Gross	Mid	4	101.0
L	Hofmann	Gen Def	3	55.7
D	Hollow	Mid	3	59.3
L	Impey	Ruck	3	77.7
Z	Johnson	Mid	3	59.7
I	Kako	Gen Fwd	4	93.3
N	King	Mid	3	67.3
A	Ludowyke	Key Fwd	1	41.0
K	Matofai-Forbes	Gen Fwd	1	49.0
B	McKenzie	Key Fwd	2	39.5
C	Moraes	Mid	4	93.5
J	Nguyen	Gen Def	3	57.3
H	O'Farrell	Key Def	2	20.0
H	Oliver	Gen Def	4	77.3
M	Reid	Mid	4	130.8
P	Retschko	Mid	3	67.7
C	Richardson	Key Fwd	2	57.0
T	Sims	Key Fwd	4	62.5
J	Smillie	Mid	4	96.3
J	Smith	Mid	4	134.8
G	Stumpf	Key Fwd	2	41.5
L	Tovey	Key Def	1	58.0
L	Trainor	Key Def	4	90.8

WESTERN AUSTRALIA​

THE STAR: BO ALLAN

A standout top draft prospect from Western Australia, Allan missed the first game of the championships with a back injury but impressed with his power and speed through the midfield across the final three matches.

The side’s captain, the combative left-footer averaged 20 disposals, 3.7 clearances, 6.3 score involvements and six tackles.

He also booted two classy goals in the team’s third match against Vic Metro.

Allan – a Peel Thunder product who has also been part of the AFL Academy this year – had primarily played across halfback in previous years.

“He’s an absolute beauty, Bo,” WA talent manager Adam Jones said.

“Just his competitiveness and willingness to crack in and lead the way. There’s a huge amount of upside with him. He’s only played less than 10 games on ball in his career, so for him to battle out against the best in the country was great to see. He’s only going to get better and better.”


THE SURPRISE: JAXON ARTEMIS

A rebounding defender from South Fremantle, Artemis enhanced his draft prospects with a strong championships which led to him being named as Western Australia’s MVP.

The 180cm speedster averaged 15.5 disposals, 5.3 rebound 50s, 4.3 intercept possessions and 369 metres gained across his four matches, providing plenty of drive forward for his side.

“Through the winter program, he just got better and better each week,” Jones said.

“You could just see his confidence within himself growing and him going ‘I can play at this level’. His running and eagerness to get on the end of it just continued to grow. His skill and execution and awareness and composure with ball in hand is outstanding. Some guys that you hope can pop and he was one that did.”

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-stars-surprises-ranking-points-from-under18-national-championships/news-story/e0ccf2681c8016d6d5556d34ea8b315d

 

[Kappa]

The draft is always so depressing when you don't have a first rounder

 

[danielnajdek]

Yeah, multiple of us said we should have walked away or said current first only. But, its done now. Lets hope we can learn our lesson, and just focus on who we can get. Good thing its a pretty good depth this year so we'll still likely get some good players.

Should've been last years first and this years second instead of last years second and this years first.

 

[danielnajdek]

The draft is always so depressing when you don't have a first rounder

Especially this draft. Looks decent. Could've had a good young mid and then a big young kpp. Then we have the father son next year.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Jeremy? Worth taking a Chances on

That's a bit cheeky.

 

[Jen2310]

U18 All-Australian squad: Vic Metro dominate, gun pair picked again

The two Victorian teams contribute 13 players to the 2024 All-Australian team

www.afl.com.au

 

[Horaceg]

U18 All-Australian squad: Vic Metro dominate, gun pair picked again

The two Victorian teams contribute 13 players to the 2024 All-Australian team

www.afl.com.au

We could get a Murphy and a Reid back in the team and only use the one list spot

 

[manicpie]

U18 All-Australian squad: Vic Metro dominate, gun pair picked again

The two Victorian teams contribute 13 players to the 2024 All-Australian team

www.afl.com.au

Is Murphy Reid related to Harley? He plays a bit like him

 

[Harry O]

Is Murphy Reid related to Harley? He plays a bit like him

No and no

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Is Murphy Reid related to Harley? He plays a bit like him

Not related.

 

[TradeDraft]

Agreed. Obviously kids emotions are quite high especially at that stage of the game, but to make that decision knowing it's gonna change the course of the game with seconds to go... Yeah, not sure thats right.

Seen players at AFL Level do Simmlar and not give away a 50

 

[Rusty Beam]

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Whitlock started the season being used as a key defender but has shown he is more than comfortable heading forward as well, including booting two goals for Vic Country against the Allies. His running ability is strong for a player his size and his versatility will appeal – he's had two five-goal games for the Bushrangers but is able to adapt to defensive positions too.

Faull is strong, aggressive and physical, with his socks-up style lending itself to an old-fashioned appeal. But his past month has done plenty for his draft stocks having missed the first half of the season with a back injury. He returned for the Rebels and snagged five goals in his first game of the season, and also had presence through his three Vic Country appearances, including a three-goal effort against the Allies

Sims is big, strong, flies for his marks and generates shots on goal. He started his season with a five-goal game against the Western Jets and later on monstered Oakleigh with a 7.4 performance from 15 kicks and 10 marks. Sims kicked 3.3 against Western Australia for Vic Metro then had an 'almost' day against Vic Country last week with three behinds, but showed more than enough to be ranked alongside the other key-position forwards in the group.

Mraz is a difficult player to place given his season was cut short by a navicular foot injury in April. It means he missed all of the under-18 championships, where his versatility was expected to be an important part of Vic Country's campaign. Mraz can play as a key-position player at either end of the ground but showed his intercept ability as a tall defender early in Dandenong's season.

I really like Sims.

His forward craft is really good and he knows how to use his body and out position his opponent. Plus he has strong hands.

Reminds me a bit of Harry McKay.

For me he’s the one. Although honestly I’d be happy with any of them.

 

[manicpie]

I really like Sims.

His forward craft is really good and he knows how to use his body and out position his opponent. Plus he has strong hands.

Reminds me a bit of Harry McKay.

For me he’s the one. Although honestly I’d be happy with any of them.

Thomas Simms should be our priority