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I don't disagree with you in thinking that Jagga and Draper have the highest floors. Both look like they will have very long AFL careers. I also understand the logic of prioritising this at this stage of our list build. If we have a draft like the 2004 one where we picked up Deliedio, Tambling, Meyer, Polo and Patterson we are doomed to a long period of mediocrity with Tassie coming in. This is why I'm keen to avoid too many high risk high reward picks like Hotton and while I think Lalor looks like the best player in the pool I would be having in depth talks to the medicos because power athletes and bad hamstrings worry me.
Hamstrings can happen with any type of player
Dont think its a power athlete thing
Hopper, Lynch , Graham & Prestia all had regular hamstring issue's
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Cotchin was seen as a top 2 pick for a lot of that draft year IIRC and Martin was on recruiters radar the year before he was drafted as Kinnear Beatson had made contact in 2008 thinking he had unearthed a late round pick
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Patracca ,Serong , rankin were top ten. So yes I'm saying with 1 & 6 take 2 midfield types. However after Pick 10 I'd rather be taking a KP type and outside runners with good kicking skills. A third midfielder will be available in next years draft(top 10). Get the backbone in place. KP types take an extra year or 2 to develop.
I’ve waited a while to do my list of hopefuls for our current picks so here it goes. Tried for a nice blend with a real focus on leg speed and foot skills. It’s probably a dream for these picks to occur but this is what I believe to be a perfect result with the possibilities of who I think could be available. Anywhoo, feel free to pick it apart and call me a campaigner as much as you possibly can. 
cheers.
Finn O’Sullivan @pick 1
You can’t get a more well rounded footballer in this draft crop. The way this kid shakes tackles from the hips is Robert Harvey-esque. Stands up in big moments like the greats do. Has beautifully strong hands in marking contests and every possession this kid gets is a damaging one. You are looking at a kid whose potential is top 5 mids in the competition.
Jagga Smith @ pick 6
Jagga could well be gone by pick 6 but if he’s there you don’t even blink and take him straight into this footy club. He’s an accumulation monster who just kills you with a thousand cuts. This kid is like trying to catch rain…you can try but he just ends up everywhere. His ability to evade, turn and move around stoppage is breathtaking at times and you can’t just help thinking how does he manage to get his hands on it so often being his size. The combo of FOS and Jagga is lethal.
Xavier Lindsay @pick 10
Let’s for minute let ourselves imagine a half back line of Tom Brown & Xavier Lindsay. Let them both roam the ground and laser beam passes everywhere will be all-Austrian level duo.
That sort of ball use off half back would instantly change the future of this club.
Tobie Travaglia @ pick 11.
Add this kid to your club and you’ve got yourself a potential future captain and one of the most exciting line breaking footballers you can get. Doesn’t stop running and uses the ball intelligently nearly every time. Creates forward thrusts with ease. Intercepts beautifully and just keeps coming at you.
Joe Berry @pick 18
Not enough ‘o’s in smooth for J-Berry. This kid will light you up with forward craft, deft touches and just all round polish. Has leg speed to burn and developed a defensive angle to his forward craft as the year went on. Finishes his work beautifully and is a player who a coach just loves. You cross Dan butler and Dylan Moore and you get the jist. Has an air of confidence about himself and his work which gives you confidence hes got the belief. If there’s a Big game player in the making out of this draft it’s this kid.
Jobe Shannahan @pick 20
Might be wishful thinking, but if Jobe-wan-kanobe is available at pick 20 I’m saying a big yes. This kid produced at vfl level and just showed he has the forward movement to become a really exciting threat to your KP group. Had a bit of exposure in the defensive 50 at times but ultimately was settled forward. Looks to have the body shape and muscle definition to become a bit of beast. Has beautiful hands on the lead which will ultimately go really well with the beautiful kicks we are developing.
Kale Gerryn @pick 23
Two KP in a row, but two different styles in my opinion. Gerryn is a bulldozer. Crashes packs, hurts people and gives you the see you next Tuesday you absolutely love supporting. Fantastic size at 200cm and easily over the 100kegs. Beautifully balanced kick on both sides of his body and for a big man this is special. A WA kid, which has burnt us this year but if you develop this kid right you’ve got a match winner.
Copper Hynes @pick 24
Most likely dreaming for Copper to land here but hey we can all dream can’t we. Copper is a perfect combination of strength power and finesse. Creates for others as much for himself by his tenacious ability to break tackles and make things happen. A real exciting size at 190cm. An absolute Richmond tragic aswell who absolutely idolises dusty. Adding this kid gives you versatility up forward and someone who can swap through the middle to give mids a rest.
cheers. Finn O’Sullivan @pick 1
You can’t get a more well rounded footballer in this draft crop. The way this kid shakes tackles from the hips is Robert Harvey-esque. Stands up in big moments like the greats do. Has beautifully strong hands in marking contests and every possession this kid gets is a damaging one. You are looking at a kid whose potential is top 5 mids in the competition.
Jagga Smith @ pick 6
Jagga could well be gone by pick 6 but if he’s there you don’t even blink and take him straight into this footy club. He’s an accumulation monster who just kills you with a thousand cuts. This kid is like trying to catch rain…you can try but he just ends up everywhere. His ability to evade, turn and move around stoppage is breathtaking at times and you can’t just help thinking how does he manage to get his hands on it so often being his size. The combo of FOS and Jagga is lethal.
Xavier Lindsay @pick 10
Let’s for minute let ourselves imagine a half back line of Tom Brown & Xavier Lindsay. Let them both roam the ground and laser beam passes everywhere will be all-Austrian level duo.
That sort of ball use off half back would instantly change the future of this club.
Tobie Travaglia @ pick 11.
Add this kid to your club and you’ve got yourself a potential future captain and one of the most exciting line breaking footballers you can get. Doesn’t stop running and uses the ball intelligently nearly every time. Creates forward thrusts with ease. Intercepts beautifully and just keeps coming at you.
Joe Berry @pick 18
Not enough ‘o’s in smooth for J-Berry. This kid will light you up with forward craft, deft touches and just all round polish. Has leg speed to burn and developed a defensive angle to his forward craft as the year went on. Finishes his work beautifully and is a player who a coach just loves. You cross Dan butler and Dylan Moore and you get the jist. Has an air of confidence about himself and his work which gives you confidence hes got the belief. If there’s a Big game player in the making out of this draft it’s this kid.
Jobe Shannahan @pick 20
Might be wishful thinking, but if Jobe-wan-kanobe is available at pick 20 I’m saying a big yes. This kid produced at vfl level and just showed he has the forward movement to become a really exciting threat to your KP group. Had a bit of exposure in the defensive 50 at times but ultimately was settled forward. Looks to have the body shape and muscle definition to become a bit of beast. Has beautiful hands on the lead which will ultimately go really well with the beautiful kicks we are developing.
Kale Gerryn @pick 23
Two KP in a row, but two different styles in my opinion. Gerryn is a bulldozer. Crashes packs, hurts people and gives you the see you next Tuesday you absolutely love supporting. Fantastic size at 200cm and easily over the 100kegs. Beautifully balanced kick on both sides of his body and for a big man this is special. A WA kid, which has burnt us this year but if you develop this kid right you’ve got a match winner.
Copper Hynes @pick 24
Most likely dreaming for Copper to land here but hey we can all dream can’t we. Copper is a perfect combination of strength power and finesse. Creates for others as much for himself by his tenacious ability to break tackles and make things happen. A real exciting size at 190cm. An absolute Richmond tragic aswell who absolutely idolises dusty. Adding this kid gives you versatility up forward and someone who can swap through the middle to give mids a rest.
I’ve waited a while to do my list of hopefuls for our current picks so here it goes. Tried for a nice blend with a real focus on leg speed and foot skills. It’s probably a dream for these picks to occur but this is what I believe to be a perfect result with the possibilities of who I think could be available. Anywhoo, feel free to pick it apart and call me a campaigner as much as you possibly can.
Finn O’Sullivan @pick 1
You can’t get a more well rounded footballer in this draft crop. The way this kid shakes tackles from the hips is Robert Harvey-esque. Stands up in big moments like the greats do. Has beautifully strong hands in marking contests and every possession this kid gets is a damaging one. You are looking at a kid whose potential is top 5 mids in the competition.
Jagga Smith @ pick 6
Jagga could well be gone by pick 6 but if he’s there you don’t even blink and take him straight into this footy club. He’s an accumulation monster who just kills you with a thousand cuts. This kid is like trying to catch rain…you can try but he just ends up everywhere. His ability to evade, turn and move around stoppage is breathtaking at times and you can’t just help thinking how does he manage to get his hands on it so often being his size. The combo of FOS and Jagga is lethal.
Xavier Lindsay @pick 10
Let’s for minute let ourselves imagine a half back line of Tom Brown & Xavier Lindsay. Let them both roam the ground and laser beam passes everywhere will be all-Austrian level duo.
That sort of ball use off half back would instantly change the future of this club.
Tobie Travaglia @ pick 11.
Add this kid to your club and you’ve got yourself a potential future captain and one of the most exciting line breaking footballers you can get. Doesn’t stop running and uses the ball intelligently nearly every time. Creates forward thrusts with ease. Intercepts beautifully and just keeps coming at you.
Joe Berry @pick 18
Not enough ‘o’s in smooth for J-Berry. This kid will light you up with forward craft, deft touches and just all round polish. Has leg speed to burn and developed a defensive angle to his forward craft as the year went on. Finishes his work beautifully and is a player who a coach just loves. You cross Dan butler and Dylan Moore and you get the jist. Has an air of confidence about himself and his work which gives you confidence hes got the belief. If there’s a Big game player in the making out of this draft it’s this kid.
Jobe Shannahan @pick 20
Might be wishful thinking, but if Jobe-wan-kanobe is available at pick 20 I’m saying a big yes. This kid produced at vfl level and just showed he has the forward movement to become a really exciting threat to your KP group. Had a bit of exposure in the defensive 50 at times but ultimately was settled forward. Looks to have the body shape and muscle definition to become a bit of beast. Has beautiful hands on the lead which will ultimately go really well with the beautiful kicks we are developing.
Kale Gerryn @pick 23
Two KP in a row, but two different styles in my opinion. Gerryn is a bulldozer. Crashes packs, hurts people and gives you the see you next Tuesday you absolutely love supporting. Fantastic size at 200cm and easily over the 100kegs. Beautifully balanced kick on both sides of his body and for a big man this is special. A WA kid, which has burnt us this year but if you develop this kid right you’ve got a match winner.
Copper Hynes @pick 24
Most likely dreaming for Copper to land here but hey we can all dream can’t we. Copper is a perfect combination of strength power and finesse. Creates for others as much for himself by his tenacious ability to break tackles and make things happen. A real exciting size at 190cm. An absolute Richmond tragic aswell who absolutely idolises dusty. Adding this kid gives you versatility up forward and someone who can swap through the middle to give mids a rest.
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I would trade up to 2 to get him, but I'm a minority.
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Why not
Realistically we might need to draft 4 top 5-10 mids to get 1 great one & 2 good ones.
But really I don't think the club should be imposing rules or restrictions on itself. If we think the 3rd best mid available to us has a greater chance of fitting into a future successful team than what the best available KPP has then take 3 mids.
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This is 100% absolute bullshit mock draft but its something completely different enjoy...richmond trade 10+ 11+ 46 +53 .to roos for pick 2 + next years 1st
1 Finn O'Sullivan richmond
2- sam lalor richmond
3- Josh Smillie Carlton
4- Jagger Smith- Adelaide
5- harvey Langford- Melbourne
6- Sid Draper richmond
7- harry armstrong St kilda
8- Xavier lynsday St kilda
9- Toby Travaglia Melbourne
10- Alex tauru north Melbourne
11- jack whitlock north Melbourne
12- bo Allan West coast eagles
13- Murphy reid port Adelaide
14- taj hotton fremantle
15- Luke trainor the giants
16- jonty fall the giants
17' - matt whitlock the dogs
18- traded to essendon ( for there 1st and 3rd picks next year ) + 46 and 53 this year
18- jobe Shanahan- essendon
19- Cooper hynes- Sydney swans
20- jessi dattoli- richmond
21- joe Berry ' giants
22- harry oliver- Sydney swans
23- traded to Freo for there 1st next year + pick 30 in this year's draft
23 - Hamish Davis- fremantle
24- traded to St kilda for there ist next year + 32 +
24 ollie hannaford Saint Kilda
30-- Tom simms
32- Angus Clarke
Richmond 6 players
Finn O'Sullivan
Sam lalor
Syd Draper
Jessi dattoli
Tom simms
Angus Clarke
Next years draft
Richmond round 1
Essendon round 1
Fremantle round 1
St kilda round 1
Richmond round 2
Essendon round 3
1 Finn O'Sullivan richmond
2- sam lalor richmond
3- Josh Smillie Carlton
4- Jagger Smith- Adelaide
5- harvey Langford- Melbourne
6- Sid Draper richmond
7- harry armstrong St kilda
8- Xavier lynsday St kilda
9- Toby Travaglia Melbourne
10- Alex tauru north Melbourne
11- jack whitlock north Melbourne
12- bo Allan West coast eagles
13- Murphy reid port Adelaide
14- taj hotton fremantle
15- Luke trainor the giants
16- jonty fall the giants
17' - matt whitlock the dogs
18- traded to essendon ( for there 1st and 3rd picks next year ) + 46 and 53 this year
18- jobe Shanahan- essendon
19- Cooper hynes- Sydney swans
20- jessi dattoli- richmond
21- joe Berry ' giants
22- harry oliver- Sydney swans
23- traded to Freo for there 1st next year + pick 30 in this year's draft
23 - Hamish Davis- fremantle
24- traded to St kilda for there ist next year + 32 +
24 ollie hannaford Saint Kilda
30-- Tom simms
32- Angus Clarke
Richmond 6 players
Finn O'Sullivan
Sam lalor
Syd Draper
Jessi dattoli
Tom simms
Angus Clarke
Next years draft
Richmond round 1
Essendon round 1
Fremantle round 1
St kilda round 1
Richmond round 2
Essendon round 3
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Just taking the Mickey mate, plus he had Smith at 6 so it had to be done.
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Problem with getting to many mids is they will restrict opportunity for each other. You can't play 4 or 5 new young onball types. Top mids in the draft need games.
North gain 6 and HOPPER.
Richmond gain not having HOPPER playing.
Win Win
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So what are we doing next year, playing TT in the twos?
For the kids to develop properly we need a) to play them and b) for the midfield to have a decent composition. Otherwise they'll learn a bunch of bad habits from being in an uncompetitive unbalanced midfield.
It's not just players you're developing, but the game plan, which requires having the right pieces in place.
Also big-bodied midfielders tend to peak early in their careers, before their bodies are too beaten up and they're too slow. So you can draft them later in your build. JH and TT both arguably peaked in 2019. This idea we give them 7 year contracts then draft their replacements who will peak before the players they're replacing have served out their contracts is pretty crazy.
Happy to take Lalor if the recruiters think he's the best, but you can't just ignore team composition.
