List Mgmt. 2024 Draft/Trade/FA Thread – Pick 9, and big fishes Tom Campbell and Harry Sharp in 🎣🐟, ANB departs to the Crows for Pick 28 😢

[Scythe94]

Confirmed outs:

• Alex Neal-Bullen (Traded to Adelaide)
• Angus Brayshaw (Retired)
• Ben Brown (Retired)
• Lachie Hunter (Retired)
• Adam Tomlinson (Delisted)
• Josh Schache (Delisted)
• Kyah Farris-White (Delisted)
• Future First (Traded to Essendon)
• Future Third (Traded to Adelaide)
• Picks 40, 54, 65 (Traded to Essendon)
• Pick 49 (Traded to Brisbane)

Confirmed ins:

• Tom Campbell (Free Agent from St Kilda)
• Pick 9 (Traded from Essendon)
• Harry Sharp (Traded from Brisbane)
• Future Third (Traded from Brisbane)

On-traded:

• Pick 28 (from Adelaide, to Essendon)
• Pick 46 (from Adelaide, to Essendon)
• Future Third (from Essendon, to Brisbane)

 

[Bluelegs]

why would we fold on Petty. it was pretty clear that was never going to happen. Lamb made it pretty clear that we were not going to entertain anything for Petty.

I never said we would fold on Petty I said that's what Adelaide were hoping for. McAdam was the leverage they were trying to use on us but we called their bluff. There's no way to know that we wouldn't have taken a better deal had one been offered. Everyone has a price. Saying we won't trade him under any circumstances is just posturing.

Bottom line is it's a false premise to say the club 'should have gotten two first rounders for him when they had the chance' when that was never actually offered.

 

[TheBoss]

It is a good thing we didn't trade Petty for a pick, especially with Tim Lamb in charge. He would do something moronic like package it with a future 1st and a few 2nd rounders in order to move up one spot.

 

[The Dr]

It is a good thing we didn't trade Petty for a pick, especially with Tim Lamb in charge. He would do something moronic like package it with a future 1st and a few 2nd rounders in order to move up one spot.

Yeah plus he didn't even trade Jordon for much at all


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[A11dAtP0w3R]

Pretty sure the Jefferson contract is wrong, he signed an extension last year...any others?

Out of Contract, 2024

Adam Tomlinson

20

Adam Tomlinson

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.3

3star

D

15.5

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.3

4star

Bailey Laurie
Ben Brown

50

Ben Brown

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

Daniel Turner
Ed Langdon

15

Ed Langdon

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.0

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.3

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

20.3

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

7.5

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

0.8

1star

CL

1.8

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

Jake Bowey
Jed Adams
Joel Smith
Josh Schache

19

Josh Schache

Age

27

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.5

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.2

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.8

4star

Kyah Farris-White (R)
Lachie Hunter
Matthew Jefferson
Oliver Sestan (R)
Tom McDonald

25

Tom Mcdonald

Age

32

Ht

195cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

261.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.6

1star

MG

135.6

2star

D

13.8

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

Tom Sparrow

32

Tom Sparrow

Age

24

Ht

183cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.0

4star

K

6.0

2star

HB

9.0

5star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

4star

CL

3.0

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

6.0

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

CL

3.0

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

4star

CL

3.0

5star

Will Verrall (R)

 

[TheBoss]

Pretty sure the Jefferson contract is wrong, he signed an extension last year...any others?

Jefferson is signed until end of 2026, which is fortuitous, as he should be graduating uni by then and be ready to begin his next career after getting delisted.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Uhhh, scythe posted it on page 1

 

[schmuttt]

Pretty sure the Jefferson contract is wrong, he signed an extension last year...any others?

Out of Contract, 2024

Adam Tomlinson
Bailey Laurie
Ben Brown
Daniel Turner
Ed Langdon
Jake Bowey
Jed Adams
Joel Smith
Josh Schache
Kyah Farris-White (R)
Lachie Hunter
Matthew Jefferson
Oliver Sestan (R)
Tom McDonald
Tom Sparrow
Will Verrall (R)

Geez we've got a lot of crap to clean off the list in the next two years.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Our current OOCs include:

• Adam Tomlinson
• Andy Moniz-Wakefield
• Bailey Laurie
• Ben Brown
• Daniel Turner
• Ed Langdon
• Jake Melksham
• Jed Adams
• Joel Smith
• Josh Schache
• Kyah Farris-White
• Lachie Hunter
• Marty Hore
• Ollie Sestan
• Tom McDonald
• Tom Sparrow
• Will Verrall

The Cut is going to be spectacular this year.

A lot can change between now and the end of the season but hard to see the majority of them returning.

Big season for Laurie and Disco. Might get cut, might get a 2 or 3 year deal if they come on.

Hunter no cert to be back. Langdon probably is but wouldn't imagine we'll break the bank for him. Hore might get another 1 year deal if he can stay on the park.

Sparrow I'm very meh on. I'm sure they'll want to bring him back but I really couldn't care and would hope we don't offer him the money another club probably will.

The rest have their work cut out.

 

[Demon 16]

• Adam Tomlinson (1 year)
• Andy Moniz-Wakefield (1-2 years)
• Bailey Laurie (1-2 years)
• Ben Brown (delist)
• Daniel Turner (2 years)
• Ed Langdon (2-3 years)
• Jake Melksham (delist)
• Jed Adams (delist)
• Joel Smith (delist)
• Josh Schache (1 year)
• Kyah Farris-White (delist)
• Lachie Hunter (1 year)
• Marty Hore (1-2 years)
• Ollie Sestan (delist)
• Tom McDonald (delist)
• Tom Sparrow (2 years)
• Will Verrall (2 years)

Half of these are debatable but this is roughly what I’d do at this stage. Dont come at me too hard on Tomlinson and Schache - I’m only proposing an additional year as we don’t have enough depth ready to go in those roles and any more than 7 changes is getting very high.

Key targets to bring in over the next few years are probably a young tall defender and if Petty leaves an experienced tall forward.

I suspect we are going to poach or trade for an existing ruck when Gawn is done.

You could keep going with another small forward, more young mids etc but I think the priorities should be the talls.

 

[Toump Ass]

Langdon is very clearly one of those dudes who is making a living out of football because he can, and not because he loves the sport or has some silly drive to compete or whatever. Fair enough I guess, but since his concussion he seems very risk-averse and as understandable as that is I don't like seeing f#$@ing pussies in the side.

 

[stEdy]

Langdon is very clearly one of those dudes who is making a living out of football because he can, and not because he loves the sport or has some silly drive to compete or whatever. Fair enough I guess, but since his concussion he seems very risk-averse and as understandable as that is I don't like seeing f#$@ing pussies in the side.

Agree with this.

Really hurts us because he was actually quite tenacious and good 1v1 in 2020 and 2021.

 

[Saab NLAW]

Pretty sure the Jefferson contract is wrong, he signed an extension last year...any others?

Out of Contract, 2024

Adam Tomlinson
Bailey Laurie
Ben Brown
Daniel Turner
Ed Langdon
Jake Bowey
Jed Adams
Joel Smith
Josh Schache
Kyah Farris-White (R)
Lachie Hunter
Matthew Jefferson
Oliver Sestan (R)
Tom McDonald
Tom Sparrow
Will Verrall (R)

I remember when we drafted Sestan i was so excited about picking up such a great talent so cheaply. Now he's like the Phantom, the ghost who walks.

 

[Demon Attack]

Pretty sure the Jefferson contract is wrong, he signed an extension last year...any others?

Out of Contract, 2024

Adam Tomlinson
Bailey Laurie
Ben Brown
Daniel Turner
Ed Langdon
Jake Bowey
Jed Adams
Joel Smith
Josh Schache
Kyah Farris-White (R)
Lachie Hunter
Matthew Jefferson
Oliver Sestan (R)
Tom McDonald
Tom Sparrow
Will Verrall (R)

The cut will be spectacular

 

[Crimson Azure]

Just started watching.

First intra, opening bounce, first i50 bombed straight to a defender.

We are Melbourne.

 

[Mich0]

• Adam Tomlinson (1 year)
• Andy Moniz-Wakefield (1-2 years)
• Bailey Laurie (1-2 years)
• Ben Brown (delist)
• Daniel Turner (2 years)
• Ed Langdon (2-3 years)
• Jake Melksham (delist)
• Jed Adams (delist)
• Joel Smith (delist)
• Josh Schache (1 year)
• Kyah Farris-White (delist)
• Lachie Hunter (1 year)
• Marty Hore (1-2 years)
• Ollie Sestan (delist)
• Tom McDonald (delist)
• Tom Sparrow (2 years)
• Will Verrall (2 years)

Half of these are debatable but this is roughly what I’d do at this stage. Dont come at me too hard on Tomlinson and Schache - I’m only proposing an additional year as we don’t have enough depth ready to go in those roles and any more than 7 changes is getting very high.

Key targets to bring in over the next few years are probably a young tall defender and if Petty leaves an experienced tall forward.

I suspect we are going to poach or trade for an existing ruck when Gawn is done.

You could keep going with another small forward, more young mids etc but I think the priorities should be the talls.

Add Blake Howes to this list. Confident after his display today he isn’t going to make it. Got absolutely slaughtered and offered next to nothing.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Easy to say now, but we probably should have traded Langdon while there was still the perception that hes good. No lone solider but he looked awful yesterday.

 

[The Dr]

Add Blake Howes to this list. Confident after his display today he isn’t going to make it. Got absolutely slaughtered and offered next to nothing.

Always good to write off a bloke after a debut


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[A11dAtP0w3R]

Always good to write off a bloke after a debut


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Get your point, and I always go back to Petty looking absolutely awful on debut and turning it around, but Howes was terrible yesterday. Hard to envisage him becoming a player right now.

 

[Lord Nev]

Always good to write off a bloke after a debut


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In a practice match no less.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

In a practice match no less.

I mean, if he was ever going to look good at AFL level this year a practice game vs an undermanned Richmond would be the place to show something. Don't think I've ever seen a kid who's been on the list for 3 preseasons turn around that sort of performance and save his best for when the real stuff starts.

Having said all that, yes I would expect a better performance by Howes in the next practice game, purely on the basis that it can't be much worse.

 

[Demon 16]

Add Blake Howes to this list. Confident after his display today he isn’t going to make it. Got absolutely slaughtered and offered next to nothing.

Agree that he’s not looking convincing at this point.

This list is the out of contract players though - I believe Howes is contracted for next season.

 

[stEdy]

Yeah Howes looked garbage but our team defense was mind-bogglingly bad on Sunday.

Wouldn't be judging any young players in defence on that day, the ball was coming in with zero pressure on it and our defensive structure was non existent - pretty easy to get lost in transition

 

[The Dr]

I mean, if he was ever going to look good at AFL level this year a practice game vs an undermanned Richmond would be the place to show something. Don't think I've ever seen a kid who's been on the list for 3 preseasons turn around that sort of performance and save his best for when the real stuff starts.

Having said all that, yes I would expect a better performance by Howes in the next practice game, purely on the basis that it can't be much worse.

Exactly - it's fair to say you thought Howes was super disappointing but it's so OTT and premature to run a line through someone this early.


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[samcantstandya]

It is a good thing we didn't trade Petty for a pick, especially with Tim Lamb in charge. He would do something moronic like package it with a future 1st and a few 2nd rounders in order to move up one spot.

Watch "The Draft" with Kevin Costner and see how you engineer a killer trade.

 

[mrmonkey]

danster168 looks like you have a ally.

“Don’t go searching”: Why the Demons need to look no further for their forward answer

He has impressed early in his career.

www.sen.com.au

“I think they should have traded Petty and absolutely loaded up. He will never be worth more to them than what he was in trade period last year.