List Mgmt. 2024 Draft/Trade/FA Thread

[Scythe94]

Confirmed outs:

• Alex Neal-Bullen (Traded to Adelaide)
• Angus Brayshaw (Retired)
• Ben Brown (Retired)
• Lachie Hunter (Retired)
• Adam Tomlinson (Delisted)
• Josh Schache (Delisted)
• Kyah Farris-White (Delisted)
• Future First (Traded to Essendon)
• Future Third (Traded to Adelaide)
• Picks 40, 54, 65 (Traded to Essendon)
• Pick 49 (Traded to Brisbane)
• Joel Smith (Delisted)

Confirmed ins:

• Tom Campbell (Free Agent from St Kilda)
• Harry Sharp (Traded from Brisbane)
• Future Third (Traded from Brisbane)
• Harvey Langford (Pick 6)
• Xavier Lindsay (Pick 11, Traded from Essendon)
• Aidan Johnson (Pick 68)
• Ricky Mentha (Cat B Rookie)

On-traded:

• Pick 28 (from Adelaide, to Essendon)
• Pick 46 (from Adelaide, to Essendon)
• Future Third (from Essendon, to Brisbane)

 

[Scythe94]

Smith or Draper (if they slide)

Otherwise split and get some damn forwards.

We can bid on Kako/Ashcroft and Lombard to buy us time to find a good split deal.

Agree that Smith or Draper would be great, but give it about a 1% chance now.

Splitting nine is fine, but I wouldn't be splitting the Langford pick, personally. Think he's a fair bit ahead of that next group.

 

[Mich0]

Agree that Smith or Draper would be great, but give it about a 1% chance now.

Splitting nine is fine, but I wouldn't be splitting the Langford pick, personally. Think he's a fair bit ahead of that next group.

We need a forward fleet of fast moving high pressure players who can hit the scoreboard more than another lumbering slow midfielder to go with Oliver, Trac, Viney, Sparrow and Tholstrupp.

Defenders are going to enjoy walking the ball out of there D50 in 2025 if all we got in there is Chandler, Petty and Fritsch.

 

[Mich0]

Ha, old mate won't pick a name so he can claim to be right whoever we do/don't pick

Lmao @ you typing this right after I picked.

Never change mate.

 

[PerfectFooty]

I saw a clip from gettable on facebook of two draftees playing mario kart, i then decided not to watch more

 

[Scythe94]

I saw a clip from gettable on facebook of two draftees playing mario kart, i then decided not to watch more

O'Sullivan was the worst Mario Kart player I've ever seen. Should slide now

 

[Scythe94]

We need a forward fleet of fast moving high pressure players who can hit the scoreboard more than another lumbering slow midfielder to go with Oliver, Trac, Viney, Sparrow and Tholstrupp.

Defenders are going to enjoy walking the ball out of there D50 in 2025 if all we got in there is Chandler, Petty and Fritsch.

Unlike you to be hyperbolic lol.

Langford is 18. By the time he's playing midfield full-time, Viney will likely be retired, Trac and Oliver could be elsewhere, Sparrow will be playing in the SANFL Reserves, and Tholstrup won't be a full-time mid (he's also not slow, see: him coming second in agility testing at the combine).

Nice omission of Pickett and Rivers from both your lines too.

Agree we could use some more forward half pressure players. You just don't give up Pick 5 for that type.

 

[Mich0]

Unlike you to be hyperbolic lol.

Langford is 18. By the time he's playing midfield full-time, Viney will likely be retired, Trac and Oliver could be elsewhere, Sparrow will be playing in the SANFL Reserves, and Tholstrup won't be a full-time mid (he's also not slow, see: him coming second in agility testing at the combine).

Nice omission of Pickett and Rivers from both your lines too.

Agree we could use some more forward half pressure players. You just don't give up Pick 5 for that type.

I didn’t mention Pickett or Rivers as they aren’t slow lumbering mids. One of these blokes is suspended half the year and talked about leaving every year anyway.

If we could turn Pick 5 into GWS picks 15/16 and 21 (or 10/11 from Richmond) and bring in Allan/Berry/Hotton and say Dattoli you would have to consider it.

All of these blokes could eventually go through the midfield if we needed them to as well.

(If we had enough list spots).

This draft has good depth but is weaker at the top end. So it would be a no brainer for me.

 

[ozzy2012]

If we get Langford at 5 and Allan and Lyndsey are gone I’d like Berry before Tauru. At 9.

 

[TheBoss]

When JT reaches for a bolter in the past:

1) Clayton Oliver

13

Clayton Oliver

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

2) Luke Jackson

9

Luke Jackson

Age

23

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

3star

K

3.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

3) Kysiah Pickett

Seems to work well.

But when JT shows interest in this year's bolter, Tauru:

board: "can you fn not!"

FWIW the only situation I wouldn't take Tauru with our first selection is if by some miracle Lalor or FOS were still on the board

 

[Dory_77]

I’m still waiting for one to say “I modelled my game on James Magner”.

Did they build the metro tunnel single handedly?

 

[mrmonkey]

When JT reaches for a bolter in the past:

1) Clayton Oliver
2) Luke Jackson
3) Kysiah Pickett

Seems to work well.

But when JT shows interest in this year's bolter, Tauru:

board: "can you fn not!"

FWIW the only situation I wouldn't take Tauru with our first selection is if by some miracle Lalor or FOS were still on the board

Go back and look at the 2019 draft most people melted with Jackson.

Pretty sure we downgrade a pick for kozzy.

I don't recall 2015 but was Oliver that much of a bolter.

 

[Headless]

Thanks for the updates over the last however long, Scythe94. Has made it easy to be able to follow along somewhat despite not really following the draft.

 

[Scythe94]

When JT reaches for a bolter in the past:

1) Clayton Oliver
2) Luke Jackson
3) Kysiah Pickett

Seems to work well.

But when JT shows interest in this year's bolter, Tauru:

board: "can you fn not!"

FWIW the only situation I wouldn't take Tauru with our first selection is if by some miracle Lalor or FOS were still on the board

There's a significant difference in the talent and positional importance/need of Tauru and the three you've listed.

People are allowed to have their preferences.

 

[Bluelegs]

Go back and look at the 2019 draft most people melted with Jackson.

Pretty sure we downgrade a pick for kozzy.

I don't recall 2015 but was Oliver that much of a bolter.

Oliver was definitely a bolter but by the time of the draft most people had him as a top 5 pick so it wasn't really a reach in that sense. I don't know if people had Jackson as high as he went

 

[Scythe94]

Thanks for the updates over the last however long, Scythe94. Has made it easy to be able to follow along somewhat despite not really following the draft.

No worries, friend I've always enjoyed following the draft. Makes up for how much I detest trade period lol

 

[Topkent]

Go back and look at the 2019 draft most people melted with Jackson.

Pretty sure we downgrade a pick for kozzy.

I don't recall 2015 but was Oliver that much of a bolter.

He was a little but it was Paul Roos who told Taylor to take him not the other way around

 

[Bluelegs]

He was a little but it was Paul Roos who told Taylor to take him not the other way around

Ive heard people say this but I don't think it's completely fair. Think Taylor had him shortlisted and Roos said he was the best of the lot. I'd be surprised if the coach isn't involved in some level over all drafting decisions.

According to this article it was actually Tim Lamb who first noticed him.

Oliver’s VFL experience crucial: Taylor

Jason Taylor provides an insight into Clayton Oliver’s draft year

www.melbournefc.com.au

 

[Scythe94]

Can we just have a plain old draft board in order of selections. This is unnecessary bulltish.

Best I can do is another spreadsheet

 

[Topkent]

Ive heard people say this but I don't think it's completely fair. Think Taylor had him shortlisted and Roos said he was the best of the lot. I'd be surprised if the coach isn't involved in some level over all drafting decisions.

According to this article it was actually Tim Lamb who first noticed him.

Oliver’s VFL experience crucial: Taylor

Jason Taylor provides an insight into Clayton Oliver’s draft year

www.melbournefc.com.au

Spoil sport.

 

[Bluelegs]

Spoil sport.

Missed opportunity for a "WHAT WAS TIM LAMB THINKING?!"

 

[Topkent]

Missed opportunity for a "WHAT WAS TIM LAMB THINKING?!"

I don't conform to your norm punk

 

[mrmonkey]

Oliver was definitely a bolter but by the time of the draft most people had him as a top 5 pick so it wasn't really a reach in that sense. I don't know if people had Jackson as high as he went

That's the way I remember it, ironically I think he actually was a bit chubby but trimmed down which is why he ended up bolting.

 

[matsta1975]

When JT reaches for a bolter in the past:

1) Clayton Oliver
2) Luke Jackson
3) Kysiah Pickett

Seems to work well.

But when JT shows interest in this year's bolter, Tauru:

board: "can you fn not!"

FWIW the only situation I wouldn't take Tauru with our first selection is if by some miracle Lalor or FOS were still on the board

Jackson was not a bolter he first on draft board followed by line ball Serong / Young.
The bolter if 12 didn't fall as did was going to be Kemp

 

[Praetorian]

I remember Clayton as a bolter, didn't make the vic country rep team but played bloody well at TAC level which put him in the conversation.

There was an AFL article on him maybe a couple of months before the draft with this photo and I remember thinking I didn't want the club to touch him he looked so out of shape.

To his credit, at his peak Clayton turned himself into an elite runner which was the biggest knock pre-draft.

I was keen on Aaron Francis in the draft that year

 

[dazzledavey36]