List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Oh well...

GOLD Coast has a preference to deal with Collingwood in a trade for its highly sought after pick No.13, potentially putting the Pies in the box seat to land Dan Houston

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Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

from Port Adelaide.

 

[RUNVS]

Oh well...

GOLD Coast has a preference to deal with Collingwood in a trade for its highly sought after pick No.13, potentially putting the Pies in the box seat to land Dan Houston from Port Adelaide.

Wonder what Collingwood can offer considering they don't have a first rounder this year. I am guessing a Future First and likely a second rounder will be the end result.

 

[Jimbo OZ]

Then keep him. If its not a selection we will use why on earth not keep the bloke

Two points:

1. We trade him for these two reasons:

i. Salary cap relief
ii. Respect to Luke

2. We will use pick 43 if we get that. We will even use a later pick if that is the case in pick swaps.

 

[Jewelsbon]

Personally if we lost 4 close GFs in a row, I reckon I'd still be fuming. In fact, I think most of us would be.

Yes we would still be fuming......

But we wouldn't be embarrassed

 

[tombomb]

Wonder what Collingwood can offer considering they don't have a first rounder this year. I am guessing a Future First and likely a second rounder will be the end result.

It so gross the way Gold Coast just bend over every year. Noble is worth about pick 50, but somehow Collingwood will get pick 13 out of them as part of that deal.

 

[RUNVS]

It so gross the way Gold Coast just bend over every year. Noble is worth about pick 50, but somehow Collingwood will get pick 13 out of them as part of that deal.

Forgot about Noble but you are correct that Gold Coast are terrible traders. They seem so shocked anyone wants to come to them that they instantly offer the world for said player.

 

[SGBeach]

It so gross the way Gold Coast just bend over every year. Noble is worth about pick 50, but somehow Collingwood will get pick 13 out of them as part of that deal.

For such terrible traders that get bent over .. they did pretty well last year to turn 1 1st round pick into 4 1st round academy players and 2 extra 1st round picks this year

 

[ShireSwan]

As much as we reflect on the debacle that was Saturday, many here are looking at the prospect of what would/could happen next time we are in a GF.
My problem with that is that I believe it will be many years before we are again in a GF.
It seems that the list management team are going to go down the same path as they did after the 2022 GF believing that the internal progression from the existing squad would/will be enough. No need for new additions to the squad other than the draft. 2023 proved how wrong that was.
Hawthorn will be a significantly better team next year as will Brisbane. Collingwood, Geelong and Fremantle will have improved their best 22 but it seems we're happy to stay with what we've got.
Some may argue that we can't bring in additional players due to salary cap restrictions but that problem doesn't seem to affect the forementioned clubs, particularly Geelong who seem to be able to bring in whoever they like, no matter the cost.

I could see Hawks falling back some. They surely had an easy draw given their ladder position the previous year. They've relied on a lot of lower draft picks with energy and enthusiasm AFAIK....they'll get worn down.

I can see GC and North being improvers, maybe GC finally get into finals. Freo, Collingwood....not so sure. Sidebum and Pendles are truly old now for AFL they cannot keep relying on them. Freo...Maybe they'll improve a bit. How many years can Dangerfield (or whatever he is taking) defy time?

I see us or GWS as the most obvious to be flogged by Brissy next year in the GF. And GWS are losing a few starting players.
If we get an AFL standard mid extractor out of Sheldrick (which I think is his floor, not his ceiling), Adams playing half the games at least, it enables Heeney to be played forward more - and suddenly our forward line looks a lot more dangerous.

Reckon we should have given Stringer a heavily incentive based deal myself...

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Two points:

1. We trade him for these two reasons:

i. Salary cap relief
ii. Respect to Luke

2. We will use pick 43 if we get that. We will even use a later pick if that is the case in pick swaps.

We should be thinking of one thing and it’s not a player wanting to go- it’s purely and simply getting the best deal moving forward. 43 is dead unders as it is that moves to 50 plus with all these bids. Should be able to get their second with a swap anyway alternatively two upgrades either this year or next. Be happy to upgrade our third to a second this year sending our third with Parker

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Wonder what Collingwood can offer considering they don't have a first rounder this year. I am guessing a Future First and likely a second rounder will be the end result.

Their f1 plus Noble would be about right. Maybe they give a second too. Think GC will want a pick this year and one next year that they can flip if need be on draft day. It’s why I mentioned our first plus our f1 but we probably need the f1 next year for bid reasons

 

[Kbroome]

We should be thinking of one thing and it’s not a player wanting to go- it’s purely and simply getting the best deal moving forward. 43 is dead unders as it is that moves to 50 plus with all these bids. Should be able to get their second with a swap anyway alternatively two upgrades either this year or next. Be happy to upgrade our third to a second this year sending our third with Parker

You forget that the bids have to have picks come from somewhere. Pick 43 will probably end up around pick 40 in the end with the probable 5 bids before it comes up to its live pick.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

You forget that the bids have to have picks come from somewhere. Pick 43 will probably end up around pick 40 in the end with the probable 5 bids before it comes up to its live pick.

At best mate and that’s right on the edge of where there’s a big dip. Personally there’s a high level top two rounds but from the third it’s hail the Mary’s. If we are taking one in the third much rather focus on upgrading picks either this or next year.

 

[tombomb]

We should be thinking of one thing and it’s not a player wanting to go- it’s purely and simply getting the best deal moving forward. 43 is dead unders as it is that moves to 50 plus with all these bids. Should be able to get their second with a swap anyway alternatively two upgrades either this year or next. Be happy to upgrade our third to a second this year sending our third with Parker

There are players that are worth haggling and negotiating hard over. Parker at his age/salary and what he has done for the club is not one of them. Especially when he wants to go to North.

43 would be fine.

 

[SGBeach]

There are players that it is worth haggling and negotiating hard over. Parker at his age/salary and what he has done for the club is not one of them. Especially when he wants to go to North.

43 would be fine.

I thought a 3rd was about fair.. but then heard AFL media people saying it was closer to a 2nd..
I guess it comes down to needs. eg, if the Swans rate next years academy kids, then maybe a future pick etc etc etc

 

[tombomb]

I thought a 3rd was about fair.. but then heard AFL media people saying it was closer to a 2nd..
I guess it comes down to needs. eg, if the Swans rate next years academy kids, then maybe a future pick etc etc etc

Probably is that picks 40+ become almost worthless next year.

Even if North don't improve much, after the ridiculous free agency comp picks come in, you are look at maybe 150 pts for a pick in the early 40s.

 

[TheMase]

There is a faceless rat on X called John Murphy saying we need to get rid of Rowbottom

Haha he is always on about him. Was also very critical when Gould wasn’t getting games

 

[Kbroome]

Haha he is always on about him. Was also very critical when Gould wasn’t getting games

I have him blocked but go back through his tweets every so often. Don't think he strings two tweets without bashing Rowbottom

 

[Olian]

Everyone keeps saying we get Parker's salary off the books. To pay who?!

Offset all the players we re-signed this year?

 

[Jimbo OZ]

I have him blocked but go back through his tweets every so often. Don't think he strings two tweets without bashing Rowbottom

I'm pretty confident that he had an account on RWO for a while where all he did was lay the boot into Rowie. That poster got booted eventually. Quite sad to have a vendetta against one player.

 

[Jimbo OZ]

There are players that are worth haggling and negotiating hard over. Parker at his age/salary and what he has done for the club is not one of them. Especially when he wants to go to North.

43 would be fine.

Correct. We are not refusing Parker an extra few years at another club while keeping 700k on our books because we don't get a 2nd round draft pick.

 

[bedford]

Haha he is always on about him. Was also very critical when Gould wasn’t getting games

It's still going

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Correct. We are not refusing Parker an extra few years at another club while keeping 700k on our books because we don't get a 2nd round draft pick.

Do people think the 700k off our books is an unexpected windfall or would it have been factored in 6-12 months ago?

 

[bedford]

Pretty co

I'm pretty confident that he had an account on RWO for a while where all he did was lay the boot into Rowie. That poster got booted eventually. Quite sad to have a vendetta against one player.

I never loved McVeigh , but it was because i thought he got gifted games early , no vendetta . AS for RWO , god help us , is it still going ?

 

[swans4eva]

I wonder whether we’re one of the clubs… I’d be into it

 

[Jimbo OZ]

I never loved McVeigh , but it was because i thought he got gifted games early , no vendetta . AS for RWO , god help us , is it still going ?

Unsure. I haven't visited for a while. It was pretty good for a few years but the Rowbottom bashing was actually one reason I stopped going. Anyway, off topic.....