List Mgmt. 2024 Father Son watch MKIII. Operation Ashcroft jnr. Featuring various academy boys.

[Jivlain]

 

[Nunez]

That is pretty much the list - Jarryd Lyons will be in his early 30s at that point and maybe he declines a bit, but otherwise by 2024 Neale (if we extend him/he stays) and McCarthy would be 30 at the start of the 2024 season and would have a few years left. The entire forward line would be 30 or younger. Rich will probably be the hardest one to replace.

Maybe a few teams overtake us in that time but I can't see us not contending for the 8, unless we have the usual bad run of injuries etc. briztoon is very focused on the fact that we didn't get a petracca or bont type when we had high picks, which is true, but I think we have enough depth and weapons to top up for a few years.

We're contending and about to get a genuine #1 draft pick level player in Ashcroft. I'm pretty confident about our future.

 

[Tom14]

We're contending and about to get a genuine #1 draft pick level player in Ashcroft. I'm pretty confident about our future.

Love your confidence on Ashcroft. I have heard mixed things though (all third hand hearsay and rumour, so no panic). Getting Ashcroft for cheap and if Fletcher turns into a useful player would be just the thing we need.

 

[mattsmob]

Love your confidence on Ashcroft. I have heard mixed things though (all third hand hearsay and rumour, so no panic). Getting Ashcroft for cheap and if Fletcher turns into a useful player would be just the thing we need.

When you say you’ve heard things is that in terms of him coming to Brisbane? Or his ability?

 

[Nunez]

Love your confidence on Ashcroft. I have heard mixed things though (all third hand hearsay and rumour, so no panic). Getting Ashcroft for cheap and if Fletcher turns into a useful player would be just the thing we need.

Unless the club gets completely blindsided, I can't see him not being a Lion. Journos need to keep some mystery.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Except we’ve run in to the juggernaut that will be Melbourne.

People said that about Essendon in 2001.

 

[Tom14]

When you say you’ve heard things is that in terms of him coming to Brisbane? Or his ability?

Coming to Brisbane, not at all related to ability. But as I said, all third hand and hearsay so not worth being concerned about.

 

[briztoon]

Maybe a few teams overtake us in that time but I can't see us not contending for the 8, unless we have the usual bad run of injuries etc. briztoon is very focused on the fact that we didn't get a petracca or bont type when we had high picks, which is true, but I think we have enough depth and weapons to top up for a few years.

Actually this is not true.

You can only draft from who’s available at your pick/s. You do not have any control over the strength or weakness of a draft.

Really, the only selection in the past 6 or 7 years I’ve had an issue with, was the selection of Starcevich. And I actually feel somewhat vindicated for my exclamation at the time (and I expect to cop some heat for this) because, while he’s a damn fine back pocket, we used a first round draft pick on a back pocket.


My big issue has always been our poor pick trading, poor positioning of picks pre draft night via predraft trades, and lack of being brave or aggressive to trade future picks to move up and get a valuable player. Or trading picks in to the future at the wrong time or to the wrong team, and being on the wrong end of the outcome, multiple times.

Melbourne have been very good at it, and so to have Port. And both have shown multiple times, even if you trade out a future first round pick, there’s always the ability to trade back in to that first round the year after.

 

[Nunez]

Actually this is not true.

You can only draft from who’s available at your pick/s. You do not have any control over the strength or weakness of a draft.

Really, the only selection in the past 6 or 7 years I’ve had an issue with, was the selection of Starcevich. And I actually feel somewhat vindicated for my exclamation at the time (and I expect to cop some heat for this) because, while he’s a damn fine back pocket, we used a first round draft pick on a back pocket.


My big issue has always been our poor pick trading, poor positioning of picks pre draft night via predraft trades, and lack of being brave or aggressive to trade future picks to move up and get a valuable player. Or trading picks in to the future at the wrong time or to the wrong team, and being on the wrong end of the outcome, multiple times.

Melbourne have been very good at it, and so to have Port. And both have shown multiple times, even if you trade out a future first round pick, there’s always the ability to trade back in to that first round the year after.

We used pick 18 on him, not a top ten pick. Of the players picked after Starc, I'd only consider Balta over him if given the option. Given he was in AA discussions and many at the club see him playing a more offensive role as his career progresses, he has proven to be a great selection at pick 18.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Except we’ve run in to the juggernaut that will be Melbourne.

If it bleeds..

 

[Nathan Barley]

I think Starce could get to Tom Stewart’s level and would probably have to, to justify the pick we used on him.

 

[briztoon]

We used pick 18 on him, not a top ten pick. Of the players picked after Starc, I'd only consider Balta over him if given the option. Given he was in AA discussions and many at the club see him playing a more offensive role as his career progresses, he has proven to be a great selection at pick 18.

I wanted Oscar Allen, and would comfortably have him ahead of Starcevich.

 

[M Malice]

ROOKIE ME CENTRAL NAB LEAGUE BOYS TEAM OF THE WEEK: ROUND 2​

B: Finn Emile-Brennan (DS) – Lewis Hayes (ER) – Tom McCallum (TD)
HB: Archie Roberts (SD) – Josh Misiti (CC) – Lachlan Cowan (TD)
MID: Jaxon Binns (DS) – Mitch Szybkowski (DS) – Kai Windsor (ER)
HF: Darcy Wilson (MB) – Nate Caddy (NK) – Cooper Harvey (NK)
FF: Nick Watson (ER) – Mitch Howson (BL) – Hugo Hall-Kahan (SD)
FOL: Harvey Howe (GP) – Will Ashcroft (SD, c) – Elijah Tsatas (OC, vc)

INT: Jhye Clark (GF), Max Dow (BP), Jordan Endemann (SS), Jed Foggo (GC), Luke Lawrence (GWS), Matthew Payne (WJ)

EMG: Angus Curry (OC), Jaspa Fletcher (BL), Jack Newitt (CC)

Just had a quick google re Mitch Howson from the Lions Academy, couldn't find much of note... anybody know anything about him?

 

[Nunez]

I wanted Oscar Allen, and would comfortably have him ahead of Starcevich.

So one player above Starc?

 

[Tom14]

People said that about Essendon in 2001.

I still look at Melbourne and can't quite believe it. Gawn, Petracca, Oliver and Jackson all make total sense but its incredible how a heap of their players learned to kick the footy in just one offseason and turned into good players - ed langdon couldn't hit the side of a dam wall in 2020.

Maybe all the promotional press about Mark Williams when he was coach of Willamstown was correct.

 

[mattsmob]

I think Starce could get to Tom Stewart’s level and would probably have to, to justify the pick we used on him.

He’s already justified the pick we’ve used on him, I don’t buy into the whole back pocket in the first round argument at all. It would be very rare to get 18 guys better quality than what Starce is currently no matter the position, so not taking him in the first round makes no sense to me. Rich has ended up being a great small backman but does that mean he was a bad pick inside the top 10?

 

[mattsmob]

I still look at Melbourne and can't quite believe it. Gawn, Petracca, Oliver and Jackson all make total sense but its incredible how a heap of their players learned to kick the footy in just one offseason and turned into good players - ed langdon couldn't hit the side of a dam wall in 2020.

Maybe all the promotional press about Mark Williams when he was coach of Willamstown was correct.

Thing is I still don’t think they’re all good kicks but they always seem to have so much space to hit easy kicks which most players could do. Langdon kicking in particular doesn’t affect him cause he’s so far ahead of any opposition that a lot of his kicks are under no pressure at all.

 

[KissKiss]

Thing is I still don’t think they’re all good kicks but they always seem to have so much space to hit easy kicks which most players could do. Langdon kicking in particular doesn’t affect him cause he’s so far ahead of any opposition that a lot of his kicks are under no pressure at all.

I was about to say Langdon still isn't a good kick. Pretty sure at times he doesn't really know where the ball is fully going.

But he has massive strengths and Melbourne utilise them incredibly well. Its insane how much running he does and how well he gets back to be a body in defence and then seconds later is an option running into 50

 

[KissKiss]

Wrong thread but Langdon is what I hope Sharp models his game on

 

[a mayes ing]

Except we’ve run in to the juggernaut that will be Melbourne.

Yep, reckon it is gonna be very hard to win a premiership against Melbourne especially as it is at the MCG. Melbourne, unfortunately for us just have a lot of depth and guns across every line. I think our forward and defence are set up but as has been discussed a lot, our midfield is the issue

 

[Dalions]

I wanted Oscar Allen, and would comfortably have him ahead of Starcevich.

Looks like we failed again by going with a half back flanker in Darcy Wilmot with a first round pick.

 

[a mayes ing]

Actually this is not true.

You can only draft from who’s available at your pick/s. You do not have any control over the strength or weakness of a draft.

Really, the only selection in the past 6 or 7 years I’ve had an issue with, was the selection of Starcevich. And I actually feel somewhat vindicated for my exclamation at the time (and I expect to cop some heat for this) because, while he’s a damn fine back pocket, we used a first round draft pick on a back pocket.


My big issue has always been our poor pick trading, poor positioning of picks pre draft night via predraft trades, and lack of being brave or aggressive to trade future picks to move up and get a valuable player. Or trading picks in to the future at the wrong time or to the wrong team, and being on the wrong end of the outcome, multiple times.

Melbourne have been very good at it, and so to have Port. And both have shown multiple times, even if you trade out a future first round pick, there’s always the ability to trade back in to that first round the year after.

Didn't we do the same thing last year tho with Wilmot?

 

[a mayes ing]

Looks like we failed again by going with a half back flanker in Darcy Wilmot with a first round pick.

Just beat me to it

 

[briztoon]

Looks like we failed again by going with a half back flanker in Darcy Wilmot with a first round pick.

To early to tell on Wilmot.

Might be my mistake, but I thought a back pocket plays a much more defensive role than a back flanker.

I guess it might come down to what the player is capable of.

I don’t have a problem with drafting high end talent in any position with first round picks.

Specifically on Wilmot, his calling card, so to speak, was his defensive abilities, and his speed. I really hope he improves his kicking, otherwise it will be a concern that we drafted a player by position whose skill requisite usually entails being a good user of the ball as well as a defender.


I wasn’t the only person here, who preferred other potential draftees at our first pick. Some of those posters are far more credentialed in the draft and talent space than I am.

 

[briztoon]

ROOKIE ME CENTRAL NAB LEAGUE BOYS TEAM OF THE WEEK: ROUND 2​

B: Finn Emile-Brennan (DS) – Lewis Hayes (ER) – Tom McCallum (TD)
HB: Archie Roberts (SD) – Josh Misiti (CC) – Lachlan Cowan (TD)
MID: Jaxon Binns (DS) – Mitch Szybkowski (DS) – Kai Windsor (ER)
HF: Darcy Wilson (MB) – Nate Caddy (NK) – Cooper Harvey (NK)
FF: Nick Watson (ER) – Mitch Howson (BL) – Hugo Hall-Kahan (SD)
FOL: Harvey Howe (GP) – Will Ashcroft (SD, c) – Elijah Tsatas (OC, vc)

INT: Jhye Clark (GF), Max Dow (BP), Jordan Endemann (SS), Jed Foggo (GC), Luke Lawrence (GWS), Matthew Payne (WJ)

EMG: Angus Curry (OC), Jaspa Fletcher (BL), Jack Newitt (CC)

Just had a quick google re Mitch Howson from the Lions Academy, couldn't find much of note... anybody know anything about him?

KPP from Morningside.

Who’s who coming through the Queensland ranks | AFL Queensland

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[KissKiss]

I'd be pretty happy if we had a late KPP option