Racing 2024 G1 Melbourne Cup Day (3200m)no after timing posts.

[Areyoufireal]

Race order fore those on the same race multi places..

Winner: Knight's Choice
2: Warp Speed
3: Okita Soushi
4: Zardozi
5: Absurde
6: Circle of Fire
7: Fancy Man
8: Land Legend
9: Buckaroo
10: Kovalica
11: Vauban
12: Onesmoothoperator
13: Valiant King
14: Sea King
15: Interpretation
16: Sharp 'N' Smart
17: Trust In You
18: Mostly Cloudy
19: Manzoice
20: Positivity
21: The Map
22: Saint George
23: Just Fine

 

[Hamingja]

Somewhere with no internet, he can't log into bigfooty anymore. I'm thinking either Siberia or he's in the clink. Possibly both

Eloped to North Korea to be with Kim Jong Un's sister

 

[FFB1]

Second inspection ordered for interpretation

 

[Moonatic77]

Eloped to North Korea to be with Kim Jong Un's sister

Definitely a possibility

 

[bigblueboy]

If any more start dropping I think I would rather have a spec on Kinesiology @ 201/51

Doubtful to accept

 

[Jugada]

Doubtful to accept

Queens Cup or just nothing this spring?

Would be running him if he was sound. Better than 50-50 he will lose a leg the longer Waller has him

 

[Suncraze]

Has there ever been a runner which didn’t pass the first ballot?

Don't believe so but this year is as good as any

 

[FFB1]

Interpretation out to $40 to back on the fair.

 

[FFB1]

Sounds like George will now be there if gains a run.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Sounds like George will now be there if gains a run.

Surely in the field now with all the omissions

 

[FFB1]

Surely in the field now with all the omissions

Needs Interpretation to fail tomorrow to be certain, fact it’s blown out on the fair.

 

[FFB1]

Plenty yet to have their first their inspection (tomorrow).

 

[bigblueboy]

Queens Cup or just nothing this spring?

Would be running him if he was sound. Better than 50-50 he will lose a leg the longer Waller has him

Currently sitting one position above FG in the OOE which makes it awkward for Waller if only one can make the field.
Kheir’s other horses are dropping like flies however.
I think they’ll definitely run it somewhere - galloped nicely at Flemington earlier this week.

 

[Gaston]

Queens Cup or just nothing this spring?

Would be running him if he was sound. Better than 50-50 he will lose a leg the longer Waller has him

I had heard the Queens Cup (that 2600m race on the last day) on one media outlet.
Would be a good bet based on Geelong & Bendigo cup results.

 

[Jugada]

I had heard the Queens Cup (that 2600m race on the last day) on one media outlet.
Would be a good bet based on Geelong & Bendigo cup results.

Would shit in if it brought its Irish form

 

[Peter Doherty]

If Saint George was to sneak a spot, who would be the rider at 50kg?

Maher currently has Teo Nugent on Interpretation at 50kg, if he comes out, switches to Saint George?

 

[Aussie Assault]

Not Godolphin, Cummings…. I didn’t have it in my latest F4’s but if it back ups you have to chuck it in….

As a racing fan, I love seeing this type of thing. Not just following the same path as every other trainer / horse..

Just like the way Pride of Jenni runs, or Blake Shinn’s ride on Antino in the Toorak. Shake it up.

 

[Jugada]

I like seeing different things but it doesn't make me want to back Zardozi. Seems more desperate than anything to me. Wouldnt be happening if she ran better in the CC

 

[Viva la Mattner]

If Saint George was to sneak a spot, who would be the rider at 50kg?

Maher currently has Teo Nugent on Interpretation at 50kg, if he comes out, switches to Saint George?

Not sure if she has a ride yet , but Winona Costin perhaps

 

[Peter Doherty]

Not sure if she has a ride yet , but Winona Costin perhaps

I believe she already has a ride on Positivity.

 

[Mobythepom]

BUCKAROO - Stamina for 2 miles?

Buckaroo was the third foal bred from Roheryn who showed a fair level of form at up to 1m 6f before heading to the paddocks. She has had five foals:

2017 Khivah out of the sprinter Harbour Watch who has a breeding influence of 7.8f - Khivah has just finished a staying on 2nd in this season's Ebor.
2018 Thousand Oaks out of the miler Kingman who has a breeding influence of 8.5f - Thousand Oaks has shown a fair level of form at 1m 4f
2019 BUCKAROO out of the sprinter Fastnet Rock who has a breeding influence of 9.9f
2020 Middle Earth out of crack 1m2f horse Roaring Lion who has a breeding influence of 10.6f. Middle Earth is a high quality 1m 6f horse
2021 Siege of Troy out of the miler Siyouni who has a breeding influence of 8.6f. Siege of Troy has fair form over 1m 4f.

Buckaroo's dam is clearly producing staying types, all have been best over at least 1m 4f, even those sired by sprinters - Khivah is particularly interesting as he was sired by a sprinter, just like Buckaroo. Fastnet Rock's progeny are known for excelling over shorter trips but I just wonder if Roheryn was the perfect match to produce a stayer with a turn of foot?

Fastnet Rock also sired Torcedor who was a top staying horse, perhaps he's sired another one, but this time a horse that has more of his speed?

 

[Joker91]

BUCKAROO - Stamina for 2 miles?

Buckaroo was the third foal bred from Roheryn who showed a fair level of form at up to 1m 6f before heading to the paddocks. She has had five foals:

2017 Khivah out of the sprinter Harbour Watch who has a breeding influence of 7.8f - Khivah has just finished a staying on 2nd in this season's Ebor.
2018 Thousand Oaks out of the miler Kingman who has a breeding influence of 8.5f - Thousand Oaks has shown a fair level of form at 1m 4f
2019 BUCKAROO out of the sprinter Fastnet Rock who has a breeding influence of 9.9f
2020 Middle Earth out of crack 1m2f horse Roaring Lion who has a breeding influence of 10.6f. Middle Earth is a high quality 1m 6f horse
2021 Siege of Troy out of the miler Siyouni who has a breeding influence of 8.6f. Siege of Troy has fair form over 1m 4f.

Buckaroo's dam is clearly producing staying types, all have been best over at least 1m 4f, even those sired by sprinters - Khivah is particularly interesting as he was sired by a sprinter, just like Buckaroo. Fastnet Rock's progeny are known for excelling over shorter trips but I just wonder if Roheryn was the perfect match to produce a stayer with a turn of foot?

Fastnet Rock also sired Torcedor who was a top staying horse, perhaps he's sired another one, but this time a horse that has more of his speed?

To the eye.
Take breeding/form/ previous runs aside -
You won’t see a better Melbourne cup trial then the run he produced in the Caulfield Cup.

 

[Aussie Assault]

I like seeing different things but it doesn't make me want to back Zardozi. Seems more desperate than anything to me. Wouldnt be happening if she ran better in the CC

Agree on not wanting to back her off the back of it, but it’s a point of difference for the race as a fan over a punter. The quick backup is a thing of the past for the most part. And 1600 > 3200 is unheard of.. So I’m keen to see how it plays out.

What do you do if she wins on Saturday?

 

[Big Bryza]

To the eye.
Take breeding/form/ previous runs aside -
You won’t see a better Melbourne cup trial then the run he produced in the Caulfield Cup.

100%. Buck is the only hope of the locals.

It'll be whichever one of the internationals that rocks up on the day.

I have Absurde going into Too Darn Discreet in the Oaks so that's who i'll be cheering for.

 

[cruskits]

Agree on not wanting to back her off the back of it, but it’s a point of difference for the race as a fan over a punter. The quick backup is a thing of the past for the most part. And 1600 > 3200 is unheard of.. So I’m keen to see how it plays out.

What do you do if she wins on Saturday?

She will not be in the first box of my F4. However her unbelievable Oaks run at Flemington 12 months ago came off the 4 day back up.

As she is running in Saturday I’ll put her in for 3/4, this only as I have a formula that has me including any runners that run on the Saturday before the MC. Would have been leaving her out otherwise.

 

[Jugada]

Agree on not wanting to back her off the back of it, but it’s a point of difference for the race as a fan over a punter. The quick backup is a thing of the past for the most part. And 1600 > 3200 is unheard of.. So I’m keen to see how it plays out.

What do you do if she wins on Saturday?

I don't think there is much chance she wins on a Cups prep but winning over the mile wouldn't change much on my doubts at the trip for her