Racing 2024 G1 Melbourne Cup Day (3200m)no after timing posts.

[Areyoufireal]

Race order fore those on the same race multi places..

Winner: Knight's Choice
2: Warp Speed
3: Okita Soushi
4: Zardozi
5: Absurde
6: Circle of Fire
7: Fancy Man
8: Land Legend
9: Buckaroo
10: Kovalica
11: Vauban
12: Onesmoothoperator
13: Valiant King
14: Sea King
15: Interpretation
16: Sharp 'N' Smart
17: Trust In You
18: Mostly Cloudy
19: Manzoice
20: Positivity
21: The Map
22: Saint George
23: Just Fine

 

[Jugada]

Vauban isn't really a grinder

 

[Joker91]

Vauban isn't really a grinder

He kinda is.
But also isn’t racing the same calibre “stayers” here in Aus.

There will genuinely be plenty of horses in this field running on the spot at the 800-600-400 so any horse that’s still travelling well at this stage (which he will be) will look to have a turn of foot.

 

[Jugada]

Uncle Chris now deciding to take the blinkers back off Katvalica

Have we seen more desperate dart throwing in a prep

 

[Joker91]

1. Buckaroo
2. Vauban

Be genuinely surprised if one of these two don’t win.

3. Sea King
4. Land Legend
5. Absurde
6. Interpretation

Circle of Fire , Zardozi & Mostly Cloudy go into exotics.

 

[dontlimitme]

Uncle Chris now deciding to take the blinkers back off Katvalica

Have we seen more desperate dart throwing in a prep

chris is that ****ing confident wow im spending my winnings already

 

[Jugada]

He kinda is.
But also isn’t racing the same calibre “stayers” here in Aus.

There will genuinely be plenty of horses in this field running on the spot at the 800-600-400 so any horse that’s still travelling well at this stage (which he will be) will look to have a turn of foot.

Nah he has a turn of foot over the 2400-2800 trips. We have seen some real plodders brought out here but he isn't one

 

[bigblueboy]

Buckaroo
Vauban


Land Legend
Warp Speed

 

[lightred]

Looked one paced in his last run but maybe thats because he was chasing Kyprios

 

[Jugada]

Looked one paced in his last run but maybe thats because he was chasing Kyprios

What? He came from last and ran past everything bar Kyprios

He is not going to sprint like Buckaroo at Caulfield but he is not a one paced plodder we see sent out

 

[mcs095]

1. Buckaroo
2. Vauban

Be genuinely surprised if one of these two don’t win.

3. Sea King
4. Land Legend
5. Absurde
6. Interpretation

Circle of Fire , Zardozi & Mostly Cloudy go into exotics.

I don't mind Mostly Cloudy as a complete roughie to run a place perhaps in the exotics as you say. Came home reasonably well in its first up run this time, and was reasonable 2nd time in. Last Run was awful but has had a month off. Its not going to win, but will get the distance, and I don't mind Teetan as a jockey.

Never going to win, but could be the cat that pops up in the trifecta or first 4 somewhere at big odds. Or maybe some value on something like top 6 or similar with one of the bookies.

 

[lightred]

There were only 3 other horses and 1 was in reverse lol

Point taken though - he does have some speed compared to other dour stayers

 

[Aussie Assault]

He kinda is.
But also isn’t racing the same calibre “stayers” here in Aus.

There will genuinely be plenty of horses in this field running on the spot at the 800-600-400 so any horse that’s still travelling well at this stage (which he will be) will look to have a turn of foot.

What makes you say he'll be travelling? Last year he was cooked just after straightening. He got the fence early, seemed to switch off, looked like a world beater before straightening and gave nothing. Is he going to be sitting cold out the back, coming around a wall of horses and run down the winner? I don't see it. Blows my mind he's currently equal favourite.

 

[Jugada]

Okita Soushi top 8 @ $2 with B365 looks a pretty safe play for those that want to play something at those sort of odds

Plenty in the race that there is a pretty wide range between their likely best and worst results but he should be a rock solid top 10 horse regardless if he doesnt have the class to win

 

[Joker91]

What makes you say he'll be travelling? Last year he was cooked just after straightening. He got the fence early, seemed to switch off, looked like a world beater before straightening and gave nothing. Is he going to be sitting cold out the back, coming around a wall of horses and run down the winner? I don't see it. Blows my mind he's currently equal favourite.

Went to water in the mounting yard last year. Was 30 degrees.

Mullins has openly said he has trained the horse differently the last twelve months.

 

[lightred]

Vauban just needs the weather to be nice and cool, somewhere in the range of 18 to 22 degrees. He also would like the race to be run moderate speed - not too fast, but not too slow. He needs to settle different position to last year because that didn't work - somewhere slightly worse then midfield, but not too far back. Also needs clear running room so he can wind up accordingly - he's not used to big fields.
If he gets those conditions, I think he could win

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

Sportsbet same race multi doing Top 10 for the cup.
I think there's some good bets to be had there, pick 4 or 5 runners to get top 10 and will get some nice odds

 

[Jamz]

Vauban just needs the weather to be nice and cool, somewhere in the range of 18 to 22 degrees. He also would like the race to be run moderate speed - not too fast, but not too slow. He needs to settle different position to last year because that didn't work - somewhere slightly worse then midfield, but not too far back. Also needs clear running room so he can wind up accordingly - he's not used to big fields.
If he gets those conditions, I think he could win

TAB will probably offer you 20-1, Buckaroo is on the drift

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

Sportsbet same race multi doing Top 10 for the cup.
I think there's some good bets to be had there, pick 4 or 5 runners to get top 10 and will get some nice odds

And top 6 for all other races, multis too

 

[cruskits]

Vauban just needs the weather to be nice and cool, somewhere in the range of 18 to 22 degrees. He also would like the race to be run moderate speed - not too fast, but not too slow. He needs to settle different position to last year because that didn't work - somewhere slightly worse then midfield, but not too far back. Also needs clear running room so he can wind up accordingly - he's not used to big fields.
If he gets those conditions, I think he could win

Latest forecast has Melbourne up to 25 on Cup day with some outlets calling 27. This was about 20 not even a week ago. Can see it going up a little bit more over the next 24 hours.

 

[Aussie Assault]

Went to water in the mounting yard last year. Was 30 degrees.

Mullins has openly said he has trained the horse differently the last twelve months.

The trainer is the only thing I could entertain about the horse.

 

[Hamingja]

TAB will probably offer you 20-1, Buckaroo is on the drift

I don't understand the way the markets move these days

Buckaroo $6.50
Onesmoothoperator $7.50



Onesmoothoperator was good in the Geelong Cup and you'd give it some chance of winning but surely it is a $12+ chance. Horse has had 26 of its 37 starts on synthetic. I get the reservations around Buckaroo running a strong 3200m and I have only had enough on it to make sure I don't lose on the race if it wins but I just don't understand those relative prices at all.

 

[toxic]

I don't understand the way the markets move these days

Buckaroo $6.50
Onesmoothoperator $7.50



Onesmoothoperator was good in the Geelong Cup and you'd give it some chance of winning but surely it is a $12+ chance. Horse has had 26 of its 37 starts on synthetic. I get the reservations around Buckaroo running a strong 3200m and I have only had enough on it to make sure I don't lose on the race if it wins but I just don't understand those relative prices at all.

Complete lack of opposition and options maybe

 

[Big Bryza]

last 3 cup winners have had that kind of explosive turn of the foot in the straight to win it, VE/Gold Trip/WAF. which are the best horses who have that this year? buckaroo surely has the most if can stay right

Everything points to Buckaroo but Magic Man will most likely find a way to fcuk him.

 

[mcs095]

Any thoughts about Sea King being second up from the crew on here?

I really finding it hard to judge as a runner - I certainly think it is very skinny in the markets, but it was impressive at Bendigo (albeit imho a pretty shallow field). - but how much consideration should be given to just how horrendous it has been second up the last two times, after winning first up... seems a horse when it runs poorly, it runs pretty badly.

 

[Hawksboy72]

Sushi into 11's from $20....

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