Racing 2024 G1 Melbourne Cup Day (3200m)no after timing posts.

[Areyoufireal]

Race order fore those on the same race multi places..

Winner: Knight's Choice
2: Warp Speed
3: Okita Soushi
4: Zardozi
5: Absurde
6: Circle of Fire
7: Fancy Man
8: Land Legend
9: Buckaroo
10: Kovalica
11: Vauban
12: Onesmoothoperator
13: Valiant King
14: Sea King
15: Interpretation
16: Sharp 'N' Smart
17: Trust In You
18: Mostly Cloudy
19: Manzoice
20: Positivity
21: The Map
22: Saint George
23: Just Fine

 

[dontlimitme]

vauban going to drown in a pool of sweat and start going backwards at the 400 tomorrow

 

[FFB1]

Done here boys n girls.

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

How does Valiant King get a start in this race? Won 1 race, a maiden, 18 months ago, and that somehow gets it into a Melb Cup field?
Very odd.

 

[Jugada]

How does Valiant King get a start in this race? Won 1 race, a maiden, 18 months ago, and that somehow gets it into a Melb Cup field?
Very odd.

Top 6 in last year's Caulfield Cup.

But yeah complete garbage

 

[Hawksboy72]

Top 6 in last year's Caulfield Cup.

But yeah complete garbage

Shades of "Rum" in Ethereal's year..won 1 race...on protest.

On SM-S918B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Aussie Assault]

Tri for tomorrow

1st: Buckaroo, Vauban, Absurde, Saint George, Warp Speed

2nd: Same

3rd: Same + LL, Okita Soushi, OSO, SK, Interpretation, Mostly Cloudy, Fancy Man

Then a few more combos more heavily through Buck, Vauban and Absurde

I banking on Warp Speed turning his form around too.

My main bets are mainly through the same race multi top 10s around Buckaroo, Sea King, Okita, Interpretation, Warp Speed, Saint George and Mostly Cloudy. They're not all in one bet but basically in that order in terms of my confidence as to how high I throw them in the top xyz slots. Eg.. I've got Buckaroo winning a couple, but then horses like Saint George and Mostly Cloudy only ever going as high as top 10.

Saint George winning would see my well up. Buckaroo a decent amount up but not huge like previous years, after a couple of Saturday multis are alive still

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

Athabascan scratched.

 

[Jugada]

Athabascan scratched.

RIP Kinesiology backers

 

[dontlimitme]

RIP Kinesiology backers

no emergencies is ****ing criminal

 

[Chism]

Saint Gorge seems to be the forgotten horse and his best can win it on firm ground which he will get.

He is my 2nd best result with Sea King but i have a terrible record in this race and back the winner on average about 1 in every 5 Cups and i was on last years winner so just ignore whatever i say now!

 

[Chism]

RIP Kinesiology backers

Bend me over twice.

 

[Jamz]

Saint Gorge seems to be the forgotten horse and his best can win it on firm ground which he will get.

He is my 2nd best result with Sea King but i have a terrible record in this race and back the winner on average about 1 in every 5 Cups and i was on last years winner so just ignore whatever i say now!

I have him as one of my 3 win/place bets in the race, expecting a bit of money to come for him closer to race

 

[Lunchtime]

Scratched.

 

[Gaston]

Scratched.

Are we sure it wasn't just a case of pre-race anxiety?

 

[qarocks]

the amount of testing the MC horses have to go through to greatly reduce the odds of one falling over, and the amount ruled out is pretty wild.

just makes you think if they did this for all horses (probably impossible) maybe you could reduce overall deaths greatly.
if that was true then maybe the future of racing would look a bit brighter as young people would find is less cruel.

 

[2121]

It's a race in 2 for mine tomorrow and Willie Mullen's will be taking home the cup.

 

[Aussie Assault]

the amount of testing the MC horses have to go through to greatly reduce the odds of one falling over, and the amount ruled out is pretty wild.

just makes you think if they did this for all horses (probably impossible) maybe you could reduce overall deaths greatly.
if that was true then maybe the future of racing would look a bit brighter as young people would find is less cruel.

The people that find it cruel will always find it cruel, no matter what tests are done.

The problem is we’re working in hypotheticals. Who’s to say the new testing has made a difference? Whose to say if it was around when we had an abnormal amount of deaths over a period of few years, that the tests would have picked up any anomalies in those horses that broke down. I think in those of more recent times, we’ve had 6-7 deaths. 2 of those - Admire Ratki and Araldo aren’t being picked up on their bone testing as one was a heart attack and the other spooked by the crowd and kicked the fence.

The increased tests though have certainly decreased the quality of the race which continues to spiral south. The problem there is that Australia doesn’t breed or invest in stayers so we end up with a bunch of donkeys and cats making up most of the field.

 

[2121]

The people that find it cruel will always find it cruel, no matter what tests are done.

The problem is we’re working in hypotheticals. Who’s to say the new testing has made a difference? Whose to say if it was around when we had an abnormal amount of deaths over a period of few years, that the tests would have picked up any anomalies in those horses that broke down. I think in those of more recent times, we’ve had 6-7 deaths. 2 of those - Admire Ratki and Araldo aren’t being picked up on their bone testing as one was a heart attack and the other spooked by the crowd and kicked the fence.

The increased tests though have certainly decreased the quality of the race which continues to spiral south. The problem there is that Australia doesn’t breed or invest in stayers so we end up with a bunch of donkeys and cats making up most of the field.

Hit the nail on the head. There is 0 incentive to breed stayers in this country as we don't have the races for them to run in.

 

[pendlebury_10]

Sen tipsters kicking goals, not one person has Buckaroo in their Top 3…

 

[cruskits]

Sen tipsters kicking goals, not one person has Buckaroo in their Top 3…View attachment 2158129View attachment 2158130

I imagine that this is a pretty reasonable reflection of a lot of the general punting public in regards to selections they will roll through their First 4’s.

If you are lucky enough to land an F4 whilst working around some of these selections and manage to dodge one or two of these horses, especially Vauban / Zardozi then you are going to get a nice collect.

 

[qarocks]

bit of a heat map
Vauban very good % at 3200
absurde best of the lot on a good track (overall pretty low % for the field on good)

 

[qarocks]

The people that find it cruel will always find it cruel, no matter what tests are done.

The problem is we’re working in hypotheticals. Who’s to say the new testing has made a difference? Whose to say if it was around when we had an abnormal amount of deaths over a period of few years, that the tests would have picked up any anomalies in those horses that broke down. I think in those of more recent times, we’ve had 6-7 deaths. 2 of those - Admire Ratki and Araldo aren’t being picked up on their bone testing as one was a heart attack and the other spooked by the crowd and kicked the fence.

The increased tests though have certainly decreased the quality of the race which continues to spiral south. The problem there is that Australia doesn’t breed or invest in stayers so we end up with a bunch of donkeys and cats making up most of the field.

youd only know after a long enough sample size.
in theory, though, if you test for the most likely fatal injuries and rule out based on increased likelihood of injury that makes sense. if the data after time backed that up then it should cover all horses in theory, because noone wants fatal injuries.

of course you can do all that and still have fatal injuries that happen out of the blue, plus injuries you tested for could still occur, plus "black swan" events like crazy riding or hooves clipping etc imo its just about reducing your downside risk to an acceptable level.

i think if that was the norm some people would think better of horse racing, but as you say, the anti HR crowd will always be against it.

 

[rank and file]

Are we sure it wasn't just a case of pre-race anxiety?

I'm on Warp Speed can see it being scratched at the gate 'anxious'.
If the Japanese jockey boot's it home he will bypass 'Hall of Fame' status and straight into 'Immortal'.

 

[pacemaker]

Military Tycoon place r1 $3.20

Opening address /cloudland place r2 & r3 $2.52

Kinesiology / miss aria place r5 / r9 $5.54

Apullia / warnie place r6 & r10 $3.22

Place multi all 7 legs $143.57

warp speed, land legend, circle of fire top 10 $7.81

 

[pacemaker]

EW bets

Zardozi
Warp Speed
St George
Just Fine
Circle of fire
Land Legend
The Map

Place only - Mostly Cloudy

Will also add the predicted $20 TAB offer as well on either Buckaroo or Vauban

GL all!