List Mgmt. 2024 List Management 📃
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Our 2025 OOC list is epic - 14 players you could argue in contention for best 22 at the start of this year.
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He's done that once in his career.
Then factoring in you can get gun mids and KPP (premium positions) for that price, I'd disagree.
Then again, I consider elite small forwards (and ruckman) as a luxury rather than a necessity.
Hard no. Like very hard no.... Leave he and his girlfriend to their mind numbing efforts to build their tick-tock profile and leave that potential list spot to a footballer.
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Will Rachelle want to stay at Adelaide the way they tracking- what would he be worth.
No one will want to stay there it’s a s*** show atm.
I’d go after Rachele and Soligo.
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Rachelle went a bit rogue on the radio during the week, stating not getting enough midfield minutes and doesn't really understand his roll. Does not seem happy.
Has a bit of petulant toddler vibe about him! Can football though when on. Would cost. Dunno what his contract status is but if he wants out and the pay check was appropriate would be a good get.
Just looked at stats, interesting exactly the same goal per game return as Owies with Owies having played 10 more games and Motlop the same having played 20 less games. All tracking at just over a goal a game.
He feels more prolific than that. Does seem to have much more upside than what we have currently in that role to the eye.
Has a bit of petulant toddler vibe about him! Can football though when on. Would cost. Dunno what his contract status is but if he wants out and the pay check was appropriate would be a good get.
Just looked at stats, interesting exactly the same goal per game return as Owies with Owies having played 10 more games and Motlop the same having played 20 less games. All tracking at just over a goal a game.
He feels more prolific than that. Does seem to have much more upside than what we have currently in that role to the eye.
Rachele and Soligo are definitely tantalising. The former needs to be reined in a little, but would be manageable in the right environment. Not sure we'd have the capital to acquire either one, given our hands are tied with picks and not sure we have the players to trade - if Durdin is not tracking well and seeking a fresh start, then a return to SA would be on the cards.
Anyway, I think a few of their players would be waiting to see on a decision regarding Nicks before looking to jump ship.
Anyway, I think a few of their players would be waiting to see on a decision regarding Nicks before looking to jump ship.
I’d trade Jack Martin for one of them.
Offer Cunners/Marchbank if need be as steak knives.
Carrol more than likely will get traded back to WA especially with the Campo boys coming in.
I’d say we could acquire one of them if we got creative.
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Jack is out of contract, so he's free to go. I reckon Durdin is the only one that could be of value and who might genuinely consider a move back home. I don't think Cuners and/or Marchy would fetch much given their body of work and ongoing injuries. That said, we can always hope!
Rachele barracked for Carlton as a kid and that is always an important KPI for recruiting around here.
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would love him..... Please get.
Shot out of the sky, then eaten by a fox when it hit the ground some would say!I think that bird has well and truly flown.
Don't know what trade value Durdin has remaining given 2 lean seasons but fam still in SA logical fit as part of some sort of deal. You would think Rachelle would warrant a solid first round pick of sorts as part of any deal given precedent to date of prising highly touted 4 or 5 year in talent away from a club.
Edit: thought it prudent to check his contract status, given the hypothetical nonsense we are starting to enjoy pronosticating about at the start. Signed last year 6 yr deal. Contracted to 2029!
Bed meet Rachelle Trade talk, Rachelle Trade talk meet bed!!
We must soldier on though don't let the cold hard reality of things get in the way. I still think there might be a chance of a deal with Durdin and a late 3rd rounder with something coming back
Now Soligo....
The idea of trading Martin or Marchbank is flawed. They are untradable. Clubs won't trade for them unless it is a 4th rounder or worse. If they end up at other clubs it will be as a DFA or something along those lines. They have lost value. Cuningham is in that same boat. If they go it's for nothing. So no real point delisting either IMO. There are already list spots.
Our trade capital IMO is Kennedy, Hewett, Durdin, Owies, Binns, Pittonet and Cottrell. TBH I don't think there is a great deal of trade value in that group. Outside the first three mentioned and we would not trade them unless something much needed and proven was coming our way that is an upgrade here.
Pittonet could be traded if a ruck is coming in or there was faith in O'Keeffe. If we lad a good mid then Hewett or Kennedy probably should be floated as a trade. If we land a forward or two then all those small forwards could be traded.
I think we need to target mids and forwards. We are one or two high pressure mids away from having a top line balanced midfield and going to the Level Sydney have gone to. I think E Hollands is a midfielder who can play forward, not the other way around. We need a good small and/or medium forward. A small who brings a lot of pressure and kicks goals. A medium forward who brings pressure, ground level game and is a marking target.
I think our future is moving Hollands into the middle. Recruiting a pressure mid, yes I know we got one in the MSD but we need a really high level one and he is unknown at this stage and finding a couple of forwards. Improving the speed, tackling, pressure and intensity in the onball group and landing some forwards. That has to be our number one.
I also think we should roll the dice on Martin and Marcbank. There's a group of guys in the VFL who aren't going to make it so list spots can be made without moving them on. But I also think that we need to find replacements for them. If we find replacements and they also come good then great problem to have. If they don't come good and their replacements do then we move them on.
While the window is open we need to keep the required players who could win us a flag. We only need a short run of games from guys like this to win a flag and that could still happen this year or in the next two.
I think after Lemmy, Mirkov, Akuei and S Durdin are let go and a trade or two is made that is plenty of list spots while not offloading close to best 22 talent. Fantasia, Cuningham and O'Keefe are on thin ground and if we land a key defender both S Durdin and Young will go IMO. That's a lot of names there who probably aren't crucial to our current premiership tilt and aren't best 22.
Two Camporeale's and three or four other players, that's easy. Just hope we have currency. I think we will be trading future picks pretty hard and we need to look at trading a few of our regular AFL players as well if the right ones are available.
I think there is 0 value delisting all the injury prone ones at this point. Would rather keep the two crucial ones over a few kids who aren't going to make it and VFL dept players. Keep giving ourselves a chance over the next year or two.
Our trade capital IMO is Kennedy, Hewett, Durdin, Owies, Binns, Pittonet and Cottrell. TBH I don't think there is a great deal of trade value in that group. Outside the first three mentioned and we would not trade them unless something much needed and proven was coming our way that is an upgrade here.
Pittonet could be traded if a ruck is coming in or there was faith in O'Keeffe. If we lad a good mid then Hewett or Kennedy probably should be floated as a trade. If we land a forward or two then all those small forwards could be traded.
I think we need to target mids and forwards. We are one or two high pressure mids away from having a top line balanced midfield and going to the Level Sydney have gone to. I think E Hollands is a midfielder who can play forward, not the other way around. We need a good small and/or medium forward. A small who brings a lot of pressure and kicks goals. A medium forward who brings pressure, ground level game and is a marking target.
I think our future is moving Hollands into the middle. Recruiting a pressure mid, yes I know we got one in the MSD but we need a really high level one and he is unknown at this stage and finding a couple of forwards. Improving the speed, tackling, pressure and intensity in the onball group and landing some forwards. That has to be our number one.
I also think we should roll the dice on Martin and Marcbank. There's a group of guys in the VFL who aren't going to make it so list spots can be made without moving them on. But I also think that we need to find replacements for them. If we find replacements and they also come good then great problem to have. If they don't come good and their replacements do then we move them on.
While the window is open we need to keep the required players who could win us a flag. We only need a short run of games from guys like this to win a flag and that could still happen this year or in the next two.
I think after Lemmy, Mirkov, Akuei and S Durdin are let go and a trade or two is made that is plenty of list spots while not offloading close to best 22 talent. Fantasia, Cuningham and O'Keefe are on thin ground and if we land a key defender both S Durdin and Young will go IMO. That's a lot of names there who probably aren't crucial to our current premiership tilt and aren't best 22.
Two Camporeale's and three or four other players, that's easy. Just hope we have currency. I think we will be trading future picks pretty hard and we need to look at trading a few of our regular AFL players as well if the right ones are available.
I think there is 0 value delisting all the injury prone ones at this point. Would rather keep the two crucial ones over a few kids who aren't going to make it and VFL dept players. Keep giving ourselves a chance over the next year or two.
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Durdin signed a contract extension with us like 5 minutes ago (OK, a month, but you know what I mean), you'd have to think that indicates he's unlikely to be traded. I also think his value would be about the lowest it's been in his career, and as such he'd be chump change in a trade for a best 22 Crow.
Might be controversial, but if we're giving up something substantial to get Rachele, who wants to play mostly midfield, then we'd probably need to be looking at making room in the midfield. That would mean trading out a Hewett, Kennedy or even Cerra. Not to Adelaide, necessarily, but to generate the required draft capital.
Ultimately though....Rachele is contracted til 2029. Adelaide are clearly all-in on him, and from their perspective any immature petulance is going to be something to work through on their way to getting the best out of him, not a reason to sell him off for anything less than stupid overs.
Rankine, on the other hand......out of contract next year, I know he's an SA lad, but Adelaide are all over the shop at the moment and there's always a chance he could be tempted with the prospect of success, particularly given he'll be 25 next year and the allure of being close to home tends to be more pronounced in younger players. Bit of maturity, bit of perspective, maybe we can sell the dream.
2024 - 2x Campos + developing KPP
2025 - Rankine + Gresham (NGA) + best available late picks
2026 - Cody Walker + best available late picks
Might be controversial, but if we're giving up something substantial to get Rachele, who wants to play mostly midfield, then we'd probably need to be looking at making room in the midfield. That would mean trading out a Hewett, Kennedy or even Cerra. Not to Adelaide, necessarily, but to generate the required draft capital.
Ultimately though....Rachele is contracted til 2029. Adelaide are clearly all-in on him, and from their perspective any immature petulance is going to be something to work through on their way to getting the best out of him, not a reason to sell him off for anything less than stupid overs.
Rankine, on the other hand......out of contract next year, I know he's an SA lad, but Adelaide are all over the shop at the moment and there's always a chance he could be tempted with the prospect of success, particularly given he'll be 25 next year and the allure of being close to home tends to be more pronounced in younger players. Bit of maturity, bit of perspective, maybe we can sell the dream.
2024 - 2x Campos + developing KPP
2025 - Rankine + Gresham (NGA) + best available late picks
2026 - Cody Walker + best available late picks
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AFL Free Agents 2024: Every player off-contract at the end of the season | Sporting News Australia
As always, there will be plenty of interest in which players are off-contract at the end of the 2024 AFL season. We've got every club's free agents below, as well as players whose deals run out at the end of this year but don't qualify for free agency.
What's your dream deal?
What do you think is a realistic and achievable deal/ get?
I really think Cottrell has upside. He's so fit, can play as a marking and pressure forward, can play as a wing. He's really improved his decision making this year too. Only 24, I think he's still best 22 because of how many roles he can play.
I really doubt Rankine is going to leave SA. The Crows will do everything to keep him.
I'd keep Martin because of his talent level. Probably a top 8 player when he's fit, which is rare.
All of the rest, even if they were fit aren't moving the needle. They're all in the 20th-30th best player range.
We have 2 list positions which are sucking way too many list spots. KPD and small forward.
KPD
Marchbank/Young/Durdin - we have 3 list spots used here, whereas I think Young is sufficient. Marchbank and Durdin should be moved on and we should try and find players who are either better or have greater upside.
Weitering/McGovern/Kemp are our top 3. Young is durable and can do a job subbing in for any of these 3. Durdin and Marchbank are fragile and are not upgrades. List cloggers.
Small Forwards
Motlop Cottrell Hollands Martin Durdin Owies Fantasia Fogarty Cuningham Williams
Because it has been a weakness for us for such a long time, we've thrown 10 list spots at a lot of fringe-level talent.
10 list spots and all of them have played in 2023/2024. Only 5 spots are available in the best 22.
Williams and Hollands are our only locks here.
Martin is the upside.
Fogarty/Cottrell both bring pressure...and we've re-signed Fogarty.
Fantasia, Motlop, Durdin, Owies, Cuningham...gotta cut at least 2 from this group...maybe 3. Cuningham's upside is just not high enough to justify keeping him on the list. Fantasia will have to show a lot more to avoid the chop. Owies perhaps is tradebait. Motlop/Durdin I'd keep because of their upside despite having poor years to date.
Need to sharpen up these 2 positions to get a more balanced list. Because of it, we have an unbalanced list depth-wise.
I hope the list management team are in the ear of Brayden George at North. Explosive, medium forward with strong hands and a good leap who did an ACL in his draft year and drifted from top 10 to mid-20s. Out of contract, yet to debut and being played at halfback by Clarko in the reserves. Sell him the opportunity as Martin's replacement - big club, big crowds, playing finals next to Harry and Charlie and pry him out for not much...
With his injury history, would also be a good replacement for Marchy, Martin and Cunners in the rehab ward
With his injury history, would also be a good replacement for Marchy, Martin and Cunners in the rehab ward
I would honestly ask Steven May the question and I reckon he would be gettable.
Not sure that the "Goody" era is going to end well, and May could be willing to walk on less cash for another shot at success.
Not sure that the "Goody" era is going to end well, and May could be willing to walk on less cash for another shot at success.
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