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Interesting.
I think speed into half forward (rotating mid) is by far our biggest need. And then a KPD.
I don't see a mature key forward as a need at all, and unless Mirkov goes onto the Inactive List, I don't think we'll have a spot for one.
That's it for nothing drastic just astute trading or drafting
 

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The same things being said about Dow, were said about Stocker and Setterfiekd last year, both have gone on to be solid players at their new home, however I don’t think we missed either.. had we retained them we prob don’t take Cincotta
Agree we didn't miss either. Both have been average players in average teams.
 
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Right now Hollands was a high draft pick, sure he has some upside but so far he has done very little at Afl level.
Dow has been behind Cripps/Walsh/Cerra and Hewett & Kennedy the last 2 years, he showed the 2nd half of the season he is more than capable at afl level.

Both have alot to prove at their new clubs, to say Hollands is a long way in front of Dow on output to date is just not factual at all.
Hollands has been behind Rowell, Touk, Anderson & Swallow for past the 2 years. But how is going to push 3, future midfield stars of competition, out of the middle if Flanders couldn't, who is 2 years older than Hollands?

Agree that both still have a lot to prove, but there is no denying Elijah is more talented than Dow in every facet of game. The only other difference between them is that Dow has had an extra 4 years of training at the elite level (still hasn't helped his kicking, unfortunately, or improved his endurance).

I'm very bullish on Holldands. 190cm goal kicking midfielder who is explosive.

Dow is an inside clearance beast who's kicking has not improved in 6 seasons. You love to keep him as cover but he is still our 6th best midfielder and cannot play anywhere else on the ground. Sunkilda on the other hand are desperate for midfield coverage.
 
I'm very bullish on Hollands. 190cm goal kicking midfielder who is explosive
We have to acknowledge there is a degree of risk here. I'm optimistic he'll make something of an opportunity with us, but he's got some work to do. If he doesn't put his best foot forward he'll be following LOB and Honey out in a couple of years.
 
Hollands has been behind Rowell, Touk, Anderson & Swallow for past the 2 years. But how is going to push 3, future midfield stars of competition, out of the middle if Flanders couldn't, who is 2 years older than Hollands?

Agree that both still have a lot to prove, but there is no denying Elijah is more talented than Dow in every facet of game. The only other difference between them is that Dow has had an extra 4 years of training at the elite level (still hasn't helped his kicking, unfortunately, or improved his endurance).

I'm very bullish on Holldands. 190cm goal kicking midfielder who is explosive.

Dow is an inside clearance beast who's kicking has not improved in 6 seasons. You love to keep him as cover but he is still our 6th best midfielder and cannot play anywhere else on the ground. Sunkilda on the other hand are desperate for midfield coverage.
Is he explosive though? The feedback from Gold Coast fans has been that he is slow and will just be an inside mid. I don't know if we're getting the player we think we are.
 
Hollands has been behind Rowell, Touk, Anderson & Swallow for past the 2 years. But how is going to push 3, future midfield stars of competition, out of the middle if Flanders couldn't, who is 2 years older than Hollands?

Agree that both still have a lot to prove, but there is no denying Elijah is more talented than Dow in every facet of game.

If Hollands has been behind those mentioned, why would he not struggle to get games ahead of Walsh, Cerra and Cripps?

I really doubt we are bringing him in to compete with those guys and I doubt he was competing with them at GC, as all of those guys spent time in the sidelines the past few years.

We all have our opinions but they need to be made on truth, Flanders is less than 1 year older than Hollands, not 2 like you suggest.

No denying that Hollands is more talented than Dow in every way? How are you measuring this? It’s clear you didn’t use AFL or VFL output.

Hollands could be a solid pick up, he could just as easily be another player who struggled to take the step up from VFL to AFL
 

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If Hollands has been behind those mentioned, why would he not struggle to get games ahead of Walsh, Cerra and Cripps?

I really doubt we are bringing him in to compete with those guys and I doubt he was competing with them at GC, as all of those guys spent time in the sidelines the past few years.

We all have our opinions but they need to be made on truth, Flanders is less than 1 year older than Hollands, not 2 like you suggest.

No denying that Hollands is more talented than Dow in every way? How are you measuring this? It’s clear you didn’t use AFL or VFL output.

Hollands could be a solid pick up, he could just as easily be another player who struggled to take the step up from VFL to AFL

Always a better chance of making it than a 4th round, 17yo kid....
 
If Hollands has been behind those mentioned, why would he not struggle to get games ahead of Walsh, Cerra and Cripps?

I really doubt we are bringing him in to compete with those guys and I doubt he was competing with them at GC, as all of those guys spent time in the sidelines the past few years
My reading is that due to the mix at GC his opportunities have been on the wing which isn't ideal for him. With us there may be opportunities for mid/fwd which may align better with his skillset.
 
We have to acknowledge there is a degree of risk here. I'm optimistic he'll make something of an opportunity with us, but he's got some work to do. If he doesn't put his best foot forward he'll be following LOB and Honey out in a couple of years.
The degree of risk is relevant to the contract.. Dow is prob being offered multi year on 400k, Hollands will prob get 2 years at 250.
 
The thing that appeals to me about E. Hollands is that his younger brother is at Parc de Princes and if he can adopt his brother's attitude and mindset we will pick up a player who can be moulded into a good footballer. Sometimes, some clubs are just not the right fit for a young draftee for a whole host of reasons. If E.Hollands comes across hoping he grabs his second chance with gusto.
 
Just my take on Hollands, mostly what i thought of him as a draftee and still by some of the limited games he has played for the Suns…

E. Hollands strength is as a forward, great balance in both his overhead and ground level abilities, a clever evasive and skilled player with good foot skills on both sides of the body also good goal sense, selfless and creative setting up his teammates as well…

Doesn’t possess elite speed but is far from slow and quick enough to not be exposed at AFL level, great endurance which should help him down the track when given the opportunity to be played through the midfield…
 
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