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I am assuming this or similar, is what happened in both the Greenwood and Lyons situations.These days you can just offer a contract and try to poach them directly.
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I am assuming this or similar, is what happened in both the Greenwood and Lyons situations.These days you can just offer a contract and try to poach them directly.
Handy. And I just realised, both Zorko and Lester are UFAs at the end of the season. So they can already just walk if someone offers them a bigger deal. Delisting doesn't expose us to any extra risk really. Greenwood was different because he was in contract, so nobody could offer him a deal before the Suns delisted him.These days you can just offer a contract and try to poach them directly. Some players have also threatened to retire rather than uproot to another club if taken by other clubs in the draft.
It's probably a good thing for at least one of McKenna, Dev and Tunstill to go. If they all stay, and all my previous assumptions hold, then by my calculations we'll have at most 4 list spots available to be taken by 2024 mid-season and national draftees (excluding McLachlan who is under contract for 2025). Given we're certainly taking Levi and Marshall, that means we'd either have to dump one of Beecken or Craven after six months, or not draft anyone else from our academy (with Craven going into the national draft so that we can use the minimum three picks).Good summary. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if McKenna leaves at the end of this season.
It's probably a good thing for at least one of McKenna, Dev and Tunstill to go. If they all stay, and all my previous assumptions hold, then by my calculations we'll have at most 4 list spots available to be taken by 2024 mid-season and national draftees (excluding McLachlan who is under contract for 2025). Given we're certainly taking Levi and Marshall, that means we'd either have to dump one of Beecken or Craven after six months, or not draft anyone else from our academy (with Craven going into the national draft so that we can use the minimum three picks).
However, if we have an extra list spot available from an unexpected departure, then we can do both. Craven and Beecken stay, and we have room for a third youngster in the national draft.
Greenwood yes.I am assuming this or similar, is what happened in both the Greenwood and Lyons situations.
Absolutely no problem delisting Craven and Beecken. Superfluous to needs. Don't need another hb or sm fwd. Didn't we list an ex giants player midseason that was coaching as well or did we leave a spot vacant?It's probably a good thing for at least one of McKenna, Dev and Tunstill to go. If they all stay, and all my previous assumptions hold, then by my calculations we'll have at most 4 list spots available to be taken by 2024 mid-season and national draftees (excluding McLachlan who is under contract for 2025). Given we're certainly taking Levi and Marshall, that means we'd either have to dump one of Beecken or Craven after six months, or not draft anyone else from our academy (with Craven going into the national draft so that we can use the minimum three picks).
However, if we have an extra list spot available from an unexpected departure, then we can do both. Craven and Beecken stay, and we have room for a third youngster in the national draft.
We asked the AFL for an excusal from the normal rule, play 3 VFL/associated league games after a player has 'retired' before they can be re-drafted in the MSD, for Daniel Lloyd [Development Coach] to play for us. But, the AFL refused to give him one as he had only played 2 VFL games, not the required 3.Didn't we list an ex giants player midseason that was coaching as well or did we leave a spot vacant?
You say that now, but who knows how strongly Linc and Kidd will come back (especially Linc) and who will get injured next season. And does the club have no problem delisting those two? Maybe, but they drafted them for a reason.Absolutely no problem delisting Craven and Beecken. Superfluous to needs. Don't need another hb or sm fwd.
No, we weren't allowed to draft Daniel Lloyd.Didn't we list an ex giants player midseason that was coaching as well or did we leave a spot vacant?
But we already do. They're already on the roster.Gotta have list spots for Kiddy, Doedee, McCarthy and Gardiner.
I've accounted for all of that in my post on the previous page.And also apparently McLachlan. Plus a few draftees (Ashcroft, Marshall, Gillett and possibly Richardson). So it's a possible 8 or 9 spots needed.
Heard on a podcast today that Kiddy went back in for a clean out of his knee recently which has set him back a little.You say that now, but who knows how strongly Linc and Kidd will come back (especially Linc) and who will get injured next season. And does the club have no problem delisting those two? Maybe, but they drafted them for a reason.
Have also heard he has had a bit of interest.I've recently wondered whether a guy like Harry Sharp may request a trade if a suitor came knocking. Seems stuck behind quite a few and players that aren't getting games at top clubs like we have been in recent years tend to be attractive for mid - bottom clubs although.
Im not sure how much a part it plays, but he seems to be very close to Kai and IIRC they were mates from back on Vic country days although I doubt you'd put friendship before jeopordising your career if you had a suitor who was say willing to give him 3 years given his current deal expires end of next year.Have also heard he has had a bit of interest.
Can you imagine how Touk and Zorks would get along as team matesJust has the same whiff of the Hugh Greenwood situation a couple of years ago. You can imagine an opportunist like Clarko or even Hardwick jumping on either of them given half the chance.
If he gets a decent offer, he should take it. Wouldn’t hold it against him.Im not sure how much a part it plays, but he seems to be very close to Kai and IIRC they were mates from back on Vic country days although I doubt you'd put friendship before jeopordising your career if you had a suitor who was say willing to give him 3 years given his current deal expires end of next year.
Best of mates, I am sureCan you imagine how Touk and Zorks would get along as team mates
I wouldn't hold it against him either and I suspect with the names being mentioned us acquiring such as Levi Ashcroft, Marshall and then recent talk about Gilder, Gallop and Richardson then we'll need the spots. Were there any other Academy players mentioned or have we been linked to any opposition players noting I'd have thought the latter was unlikely?If he gets a decent offer, he should take it. Wouldn’t hold it against him.
A bit like Dev last year, had the offer, decided to stay but unfortunately for him it hasn’t really worked out as he has been pushed down the order a bit.
Except Sharp is under contract for another year. Dev wasn't last offseason.If he gets a decent offer, he should take it. Wouldn’t hold it against him.
A bit like Dev last year, had the offer, decided to stay but unfortunately for him it hasn’t really worked out as he has been pushed down the order a bit.
I've recently wondered whether a guy like Harry Sharp may request a trade if a suitor came knocking. Seems stuck behind quite a few and players that aren't getting games at top clubs like we have been in recent years tend to be attractive for mid - bottom clubs although.
Would be preferable not to lose all of our depth though.Can't keep them all so depth requesting for a move is inevitable at this stage.
From what I heard on one of the footy shows it was Essendon and not the Dogs - which always seemed an odd fit for mine - even tho i to thought it was the Dogs who had the interest.There was some talk that Kai Lohmann had very keen interest from the Bulldogs but he backed himself in and signed an extension.
Harry Sharp has shown some great improvement this season in the VFL, he is at the least good wing depth, I hope he follows Kai's example and backs himself in.
Interesting that Beecken is being played on the wing in the VFL. Sharp more inside. Sharp would have to think about it if an offer came. Sharp is more like Lashcroft and Marshall than Beecken.I've recently wondered whether a guy like Harry Sharp may request a trade if a suitor came knocking. Seems stuck behind quite a few and players that aren't getting games at top clubs like we have been in recent years tend to be attractive for mid - bottom clubs although.
The club was somewhat surprised he returned, put it that way.There was some talk that Kai Lohmann had very keen interest from the Bulldogs but he backed himself in and signed an extension.
Bloody glad he did.The club was somewhat surprised he returned, put it that way.