It isn't a justification, it's the reality. At our best, we're a top 8 team regularly, at our worst, we should still be playing finals or just missing the 8. Would it be better to see us make the GF again? 100%. But it's extremely unlikely to happen when have a poor start to the season with multiple injuries to players in our best 22
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Us making the GF has nothing to do with the start of the season but everything to do with the past week when we had second in front of us for the taking. Would you be saying that if we won the past two weeks with the same injuries to players in our best 22. I doubt it.
Yep, I would be. It's a thought I've held since the start of the season.
I do agree with you though, it's no one else's fault but the teams piss poor start to the season - for multiple reasons - that have allowed us to drop a top 4 finish last week and this week.
If we can get going into finals, with recovered injuries [Payne/Bruce] then we should be able to damage to Premiership teams.
This is a bit of a left field idea, and I don't expect most people to agree. If the following are all true:
- We can't count on Payne to stay fit
- Finding another good mature KPD is difficult
- Our biggest hindrance right now is poor goalkicking
As to who is a very accurate kick, there have already been whispers that we're into Darcy Fogarty (OOC 2025), who has kicked 41.16 this year. A cheaper option would be Tim Membrey (UFA 2024), who has kicked 28.9 this season. Or if we're willing to take a flier on someone in the VFL (should the list spots be available), Liam McMahon from Carlton's VFL team is 198cm, 22 years old and has kicked 43.13 this season (including 7.0 against Geelong last week).
For comparison, Joe has kicked 49.42, Charlie 34.25, Hipwood 29.19, Rayner 25.17 and Kai 24.23 so far this year.
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I think that idea can stay in left field
Some players can carry/get over/play with injuries.
I don't think Bailey's one of those.
I'm up for starting to dream.
Is Bailey's injury to his shoulders ? Would explain his poor tackling every week
Need a forward that can take a mark down the line when we're trying the boundary kick. Oscar has brick hands and Daniher is only good 1 on 1. Hipwood never gives us that option and always crocodile snatches it with his hands.
We also need a burst player like John Noble or Max Holmes.
Going forward I'd look at bringing in another forward, turn Logan Morris into a big bodied midfielder and bring in a burst running defender with size.
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Anything else?
Not a reaction to yesterdays loss, but if there was one player I would consider trading to improve the list or to obtain a stronger draft position, it is Bailey.
Both Rayner and Bailey are cream on the cake type players. Thinking about how we can improve the team, I am not sure we can “carry” the two in our forward line. Both are great when we are on top but they seem to be the players that who are less effective in tight games. It could be argued that Joe and Hippy are the same, but we don’t have replacement key forwards.
I think criticism of Bailey’s defensive efforts are over stated, but it is definitely not a strength. I am thinking that we don’t lose much replacing him at half forward with Lascroft or a recovery McCarthy.
Just putting it out there.
Both Rayner and Bailey are cream on the cake type players. Thinking about how we can improve the team, I am not sure we can “carry” the two in our forward line. Both are great when we are on top but they seem to be the players that who are less effective in tight games. It could be argued that Joe and Hippy are the same, but we don’t have replacement key forwards.
I think criticism of Bailey’s defensive efforts are over stated, but it is definitely not a strength. I am thinking that we don’t lose much replacing him at half forward with Lascroft or a recovery McCarthy.
Just putting it out there.
Yes, Delist Lester
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I think we should trade in Christian Petracca, Will Day and Sam Taylor... along with a draft of L.Ashcroft and Sam Marshall that should set us up nicely.
How many more years of Hipwood falling over ?
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Out of Contract end of 2029 season, he is then going to concentrate on his Olympic Breakdancing career.
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According to Facebook he’s the reason behind every loss so yeah maybe we should offload him
Yeah I wouldn’t be against trading Bailey. I get he’s out of form but his lack of awareness / poor tackling ability has never really improved.
I say this only if we were replacing him with another best 22 player from another team. For a speculative shiny new draft pick it wouldn’t be worth it.
He would be one of a few though who may actually be worth something to another team, whilst he appears to have stagnated with us.
In fairness to Hippy, a lot of players from both sides were slipping over yesterday.
He didn't look himself at all and was probably carrying that groin injury...fit enough to play but not right.
Wouldn't surprise me if he misses next week.
Basically, if our club doesn’t get this done, I’ll riot. No excuses not to do it for the cost of Dev and maybe Lane
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One quick question - how do you rebuild when you already have a top 3 pick father son coming, a likely second round academy player, and another academy player next year who could be a top 15 pick?
Unless we'd gone the Briztoon route and totally tanked and finished bottom 2/3, there's no chance we'd have gotten in a pick before Levi is bid on.
Yes, please offer your own diagnosis of what our issues are and how we could fix them, so we can all condescendingly sneer at your opinion in return.
His fix is to delist a defender and put all faith in broken ones
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I think we are lacking pace through the midfield, none of our midfield regulars are noted speed demons and neither are Levi Ashcroft or Sam Marshall, not sure on Daniel Annable's pace or lack thereof.
I can not see a solution to it over the next few years.
I'm surprised 3KZ is Football hasn't tried to get him banned yet for suggesting we delist Lester.
